Ard Boyz only GW Models allowed

[mastrchief33]

I say boycott the ARD boyz.

Now that's thinking outside the box!

[Emperor's Scourge]

Woo Dire Wolf conversions are legal.

Wrong base size though. Needs to be on what, 60, 65 mm round base?

 

Yep, 60mm base for TWC is what I've been told by GW employees. The reason being that Canis is the only official TWC model and he ships with a 60mm base.

[Grey Mage]

Woo Dire Wolf conversions are legal.

Wrong base size though. Needs to be on what, 60, 65 mm round base?

Nope, theyre legal... whatever the mini was sold with is golden.

[Grimtooth]

Woo Dire Wolf conversions are legal.

Wrong base size though. Needs to be on what, 60, 65 mm round base?

 

Yep, 60mm base for TWC is what I've been told by GW employees. The reason being that Canis is the only official TWC model and he ships with a 60mm base.

 

Canis does not have a TWM, he has Fangir.

[winternight]

Woo Dire Wolf conversions are legal.

Wrong base size though. Needs to be on what, 60, 65 mm round base?

Nope, theyre legal... whatever the mini was sold with is golden.

That is what I'd be going with. Though might consider the rounded bike bases.

 

Would be pretty easy to sit the smaller bases on a 60mm base is required though.

[Hfran Morkai]

Woo Dire Wolf conversions are legal.

Wrong base size though. Needs to be on what, 60, 65 mm round base?

 

Yep, 60mm base for TWC is what I've been told by GW employees. The reason being that Canis is the only official TWC model and he ships with a 60mm base.

 

Canis does not have a TWM, he has Fangir.

 

Which is the only official thunderwolf, even if hes huge

[Grimtooth]

Woo Dire Wolf conversions are legal.

Wrong base size though. Needs to be on what, 60, 65 mm round base?

 

Yep, 60mm base for TWC is what I've been told by GW employees. The reason being that Canis is the only official TWC model and he ships with a 60mm base.

 

Canis does not have a TWM, he has Fangir.

 

Which is the only official thunderwolf, even if hes huge

 

I am just saying there is a distinct difference in the book between TWM and Fangir. Considering the anal retentiveness of the supposed Ard Boyz ruling, I brought it up.

[Grey Mage]

Yep, Fangir is not a normal TWM, thus we cant judge model/base size by him.

[Hfran Morkai]

Yep, Fangir is not a normal TWM, thus we cant judge model/base size by him.

 

Nope, but if 'ard Boyz want official GW models and WYSIWYG then the closest thing we can draw is Fangir. It's the only reference we have from Games Workshop and they didn't even do a good job of it.

 

So if you want Thunderwolves, convert a terrible model up as your woofers until GW puts us out of our misery

[LoneSniperSG]

I thought there was an underscoring rule about bases. Cavalry, such as, oh I don't know THUNDERWOLF CAVALRY, should be on a CAVALRY base.

[Wispy]

Blood Crushers are sold on 60 mm bases. Try again.

 

edit: typo

[Grey Mage]

Nope, for several years now GWs rule has been hard and fast- whatever they sold it with is what you field it with.

[Stormwulf133]

If I ever play in tourny again, I am going to make my own thunderwolves out of sprue, maybe covered in cardboard from GW boxes, and paint them to look like wolves, or to look like a 5 year old painted wolves. Then when I play a "real" game, I will just use my 3rd party wolves which i put real work into.

[the jeske]

but you do understand that GW does not make money if you buy other company models and that if those said models are used your doing a promo for a different company on a GW event . Its like walking around on a pepsi sponosored even in a coca cola shirt.

[Quillen]

And that would be the right thing to do. Cause Coke is the real thing.

 

Games Workshop dropped the ball on this. They made a good solid unit that can do alot but is not too broke. And then they did not release a model for it. Well people into modeling jumped on the ball and started rolling it. And doing an amazing job. Now people are saying those are not legal models you need a legal model for a unit with no legal model. It's ignorant at best.

 

Takes too lists and the models you want. If they will not let you use them point out what a$$h@les they are. Make it public and open but not out of hand. Point it out loud and clear but not with vulgar words. And then use the other list. And every game explain to the player what has happened to your first choice and how you wish these people would be fair and reasonable. The people will let the word get out. They will get bad press for it.

 

Or just don't go. Vote with your feet by not putting them there. Others will sign up thou. Still they know they pissed off a player.

 

Talk to them again thou, and ask GW about it. See if they can talk to them in your behalf. Point out how much money you have wasted on their price inflated merchandise. And it would be nice if someone there would actually help you to play the game you are paying money far.

 

On a side note I have been buying models with nothing to do from GW and using them while gaming. I scored some really nice hover transports. They look amazing and the peices all fit together so well. Unlike the speeders and the old Land Raiders with their gap on top. lol

And my friends don't seem to mind it at all. And they admit they look amazing.

[Simo429]

i think GW should really :( off the TWC models are done and they are just trying to fleece people into buying squads of canis

[Grey Mage]

i think GW should really :( off the TWC models are done and they are just trying to fleece people into buying squads of canis

I believe the proper phrase is "pictures, or it didnt happen".

[Crimson Devil]

GW didn't drop the ball. They are forcing you to purchase a more expensive model to convert if you want to use it now. Once the sales of Canis a$$face slow down, they will release the Thunderwolves. Same thing is happening with the Storm Raven. If we don't buy it GW might drop the unit thinking it was a dud. If we do buy Canis to convert we slow down the release of the real model. Either way GW wins.

[hmk17]

Well, there is a third option. But that requires most every Space Wolves player boycotting or walking out on Ard'Boys (or other major GW event) and publicizing the reasons why in emails to GW and on every 40K blog/forum out there.

 

Mass vocal displeasure, correctly aimed, will get a company moving. Forget bombarding Customer Service with calls and emails, find the guy who oversees the development of models. Let him hear mass displeasure...

 

For us to HAVE to buy Canis in order to run the unit is on par with saying "To run a unit of Sanguinary Guard, you Have to buy X copies of the Sanguinor." GW didn't do that with them, so why do that with us?

 

Yet, Canis is the ONLY 40K model to meet the full GW product requirements. Anything else has to be converted off LotR and WFB models. I don't see those guys not getting units and being forced to convert things off 40K models. I want to see a guy not be able buy any Nazghul models and has to convert a C'tan. (edit: Aren't WFB Orcs & Goblins getting a new codex or just got a new one?)

 

 

I got my clearance, but if I place then I have to deal with a new TO that I don't know and may not be as permissive on the modeling rules. Whole thing is starting to leave a sour taste in my mouth.

[Stormshrug]

Step 1: Mount on bike bases.

 

Step 2: Affix magnets to the bottom of the bike bases.

 

Step 3: Affix magnets to the top of the 60mm bases.

 

Step 4: ???

 

Step 5: Nobody can complain about your base size.

 

 

Alternatively, magnetize the TWC themselves. But that seems like a pain in the butt.

 

 

 

-Stormshrug

[obs0l3te]

My 'Ard boyz organizer said ANY TWM would be ok, since there are no models for them.

 

I have some of the russian ones and will be using them saturday.

[Prot]

This entire topic begs the question: Why the heck didn't GW give us TWC models?

 

Most of us would love to use them, and probably a great number of us who would use them WON'T sculpt them. Am I the only one seeing an opportunity to sell models here? Yet they took the time to do Goofy The Prankster, and Wolverine Redbeard? Someone missed the boat on this one.

 

Although I shouldn't be too hard on them.... there is a spearhead release coming for every army right? It would be stellar if TWC came out in that release, and a good deal of time has passed since Wolves came out....we'd probably buy them. Even people that may not have during initial release.

[the jeske]

For us to HAVE to buy Canis in order to run the unit is on par with saying "To run a unit of Sanguinary Guard, you Have to buy X copies of the Sanguinor." GW didn't do that with them, so why do that with us?

dude be happy that you have canis . imagine playing chaos and finding out that the DPs and oblits that every chaos armies plays are realy realy hard to get in europe . and when you do get the DPs find out that you now how to buy wings for them , because [lol] its not like all DPs use wings they have so many other options to pick from.

 

Why the heck didn't GW give us TWC models?

for tournaments ? that is easy. you buy wolfs or scratch build , most people will be not scratch build . after most sw have the twc they had , they make the official TWC models . Now the ones SW have have different bases [because you can be sure they wont give them cav bases] , different size [so even if you rebase all your TWC you will still have to buy a single TWC for when your opponent asks to draw LoS to or from them]. A win win . the same will happen with the BA lander.

[Prot]

Why the heck didn't GW give us TWC models?

for tournaments ? that is easy. you buy wolfs or scratch build , most people will be not scratch build . after most sw have the twc they had , they make the official TWC models . Now the ones SW have have different bases [because you can be sure they wont give them cav bases] , different size [so even if you rebase all your TWC you will still have to buy a single TWC for when your opponent asks to draw LoS to or from them]. A win win . the same will happen with the BA lander.

 

I agree with what you're implying except one catch: Games Workshop has to actually release the actual TWC model...otherwise this master plan falls on its face. But I do agree... they really would have a 'win/win' scenario on their hands if they actually follow through with the release. I'll believe it when I see it. ^_^

[eyeslikethunder]

Nope, for several years now GWs rule has been hard and fast- whatever they sold it with is what you field it with.

 

yeah but do remember them being a bit mean about metal terminators and their smaller bases at some of their tournaments