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Where on Land Raider(all variants) do you place the turret?


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Hi, I'm currently building a Land Raider Crusader, and realized that there are two places to place the side-turret (front and back) on each side.

 

Well, where do you brothers place your turret, and why? Is there any pros and cons for placing the turret front or back? Want to borrow the wisdom of old players.

Either is technically valid and of course there are pros and cons to each placement. Namely if you place the turrets forward you have another Inch or two of range on most targets as in general you measure ranges from the weapon on the tank. However placing the weapons back gives you far more room to disembark models. This can be important if the tank has a full squad of Terminators or a ton of power armored marines in it. It's not always possible to pile 8 Terminators or 10-16 Power Armored models within 2" of the front hatch and with the side hatches behind the weapon mounts it can make getting squads out of the vehicle effectively tough sometimes. But doing so of course gives you a slight range disadvantage.

 

In general though I prefere to put the weapons back, IMO it looks better, the lost range never really bothers me and I like having the extra space for disembarking troops which is particularly important when I fill a Crusader with Blood Claws as I am often keen to do. :)

i assume you mean the sponsons...

on a standard land raider i put the lasconnons on the rear as range is not n issue and its the standard look for them.

 

for the assault raiders (redeemer and crusader) i put the flamer/bolter sponsons at the front as range is an issue an also its the way the pics show them :)

on my redeemer /crusader(yes i use magnets) i put the side mounted weapons to the front and as for the disembarking troops with it there i have not had it be much of a problem as if you measure 2 inches from the doors and you find that their is an over lap right at the middle of the front sponsons and you can keep unit coherency by placing 1 model there and so on and it is nice to have that extra range on my firestorm cannon's template.

I put all of mine forward for a few reasons.

 

1. The idea of getting out the side is a little more appealing to the troops when there is not a huge gun or battery of bolters firing through the space that you are going through. On the table top this translates to fewer arguments as to whether your grey hunters are giving a cover save to the guns' targets.

 

1a. If you need to you can still overlap the disembarkation zone for the front door and the rear side door.

 

2. It is a little bit easier to get the guns' firing arcs to over-lap in front of the Land raider.

 

3. I think it looks cooler with the guns mounted further forward.

"The idea of getting out the side is a little more appealing to the troops when there is not a huge gun or battery of bolters firing through the space that you are going through. On the table top this translates to fewer arguments as to whether your grey hunters are giving a cover save to the guns' targets"

 

 

This was my thinking as well. So all guns are forward of loading doors.

I am the same as Vash113, I put them at the back on crusaders as it looks better IMO, It does have the drawback of range and with weapons with 24" range every inch counts. But I am more about the modelling and painting side then the gaming so it suits me fine (ideally I should magnatise them so I can change it when i Play)
I put all of mine forward for a few reasons.

 

1. The idea of getting out the side is a little more appealing to the troops when there is not a huge gun or battery of bolters firing through the space that you are going through. On the table top this translates to fewer arguments as to whether your grey hunters are giving a cover save to the guns' targets.

 

I thought about that as well, while modeling the Redeemer.

 

"Bob, why did the Mechanicum put these giant flame throwers right next to the hatch?"

 

"Lowest bid Forge World, Jerry."

From a gaming perspective, you'd probably want a Crusader's turrets on the forward doors. Every GW image I've seen of it has them on the rear doors though. Crusader I guess you could go either way, LRR is easily forward for me. Standard LR really doesn't matter I guess, they are lascannons...
Not a son of Russ But I put My Godhammer Lascans on the Back and any LRC/R I use on the front hatches so I can get the most out of my flamestorms and A slightly better chance at getting the Hurrican Bolters into Double Tap Range :( Also I am confused about something I can get 14 DC out the front ramp and still retain the 2" thing and I alsot thought guns on the back doors were silly Who really wants to get out infront of the things spitting death at you enemys :D.
Hmmm, maybe it's just the way I pose my minis :(. I can never seem to fit them all in 2" of the assault ramp on the front. My usual method is simply to wrap them in a semi-circle around the front of the LRC that is 2 models in width (so two lines of 8 models - 15 B.Claws + the HQ)
Hmmm, maybe it's just the way I pose my minis :(. I can never seem to fit them all in 2" of the assault ramp on the front. My usual method is simply to wrap them in a semi-circle around the front of the LRC that is 2 models in width (so two lines of 8 models - 15 B.Claws + the HQ)

Remember only the edge of the base needs to be within 2" of the door. so you really have a nearly 3" deployment zone, even moreso with the larger termi bases. If you stagger the rows slightly you can go three deep on the standard base. If you have a terminator model with a group of bloodclaws put the termi out front. Will also increase your assault range a little. :D

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