gettothegone Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Rules: Post a unit under or up to 300 points to counter the last unit posted. For example. Firstguysays: Land Raider Redeemer + Multi Melta Secondguysays: 5 Stern Guard, Combi Melta + Drop Pod Continue till you get bored. First Unit: Triple Dakka Preds + Hunter Killer Upgrade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeonic Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 5 multi-melta land speeders - 300 I don't see how this is "tactica" though. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettothegone Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 Call it an exercise or brain dump in counters :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuruD Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 7 terminators with chainfists and a Cyclone Missile Launcher. At 12" move forward, shoot 2 krak missiles and 12 bolter shots. About 40% chance that a krak missile will take a speeder down since immobilized counts as destroyed. About 22% chance of a bolter taking one down. Charge with 21 attacks, half hit assuming the landspeeders only moved 6 inches if they have 2 Multi-Meltas to fire. 10 hit and 10 will most likely penetrate, 5 destroyed. I really like this thread. I will be back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divergent Reality Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 If only this included non imperial units. 10 Pariahs are the perfect answer to chainfist Terminators. Barring that toss a few Lightning claw vanguard at them. No codex on me so my numbers are in the air. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Khan and 10 ccw scouts (300 points ish), at I5 can take down any MEQ unit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Lets keep this Board-appropriate ok guys? So yes, PA, Daemon, Inquisition.... And please, explain how your going to use the unit in question. If this gets off track, its going to die quickly, instead of perhaps being useful as a way to show that there is always a counter to any unit. For the record- A whirlwind from the other side of the table should take care of those scouts quickly, since the Khan cant infiltrate with them. Ill toss on a stormbolter and extra armor just in case.... but S5 AP4 pieplates should do the job. Pinning will probly kick in one of the next 5 turns to boot. Just shell them until they get about 18" away, then drive away while shelling them to buy another turn or two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Lets keep this Board-appropriate ok guys? So yes, PA, Daemon, Inquisition.... And please, explain how your going to use the unit in question. If this gets off track, its going to die quickly, instead of perhaps being useful as a way to show that there is always a counter to any unit. For the record- A whirlwind from the other side of the table should take care of those scouts quickly, since the Khan cant infiltrate with them. Ill toss on a stormbolter and extra armor just in case.... 2 x 4 Chaos Terminators, 3 x Combi-Melta, 1 x Combi-Plasma, Power Fist = 300 Deepstrike in and destroy the Whirlwind(s), C-Plasma is to give you a little extra damage if you drop outside of 6" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 2 x 4 Chaos Terminators, 3 x Combi-Melta, 1 x Combi-Plasma, Power Fist = 300 Deepstrike in and destroy the Whirlwind(s), C-Plasma is to give you a little extra damage if you drop outside of 6" Bjorn the fellhanded objects to your destruction of his property. So I use his plasmacannon on your terminators, and if Im close enough I also flame and then assault them. AV 13 and a 5++ should keep me safe, especially after you used most of your combis up. In fact, hes tough enough hes likely to survive your combis if you targetted him too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ariman Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 8x Vangaurd vets, 8x infernus pistols, single d6 deepstrike scatter, lands right next to Bjorn and meltas him to hell. 295 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I could say lysander and break the entire game but I won't :lol: I see your veterens of vanguarding and reveal my trap card: plasma cannon in tactical squad with plasma gun, the Str7 AP2 blast and shots should be more than enough to see off your squad in majority followed by boltering. Points: 195 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I could say lysander and break the entire game but I won't :lol: I see your veterens of vanguarding and reveal my trap card: plasma cannon in tactical squad with plasma gun, the Str7 AP2 blast and shots should be more than enough to see off your squad in majority followed by boltering. Points: 195 Vindicator pie plates you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Vindicator pie plates you! Las-pred goes FREEM "Enemies go boom, sir?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Drop Pod with 8 Combi-Melta Sternguard. Sgt has a Power Fist. 300 even. *meltmeltmeltmeltmeltmeltmeltmelt* and there was no more Predator, just a pile of slag. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Drop Pod with 8 Combi-Melta Sternguard. Sgt has a Power Fist. 300 even. *meltmeltmeltmeltmeltmeltmeltmelt* and there was no more Predator, just a pile of slag. 2 x 4 squads of Flamers. Counter deepstrike onto the Sternguard and wipe out the entire squad many times over. Wounding on 4's with no armor/cover save with 4 attempts per squad means that you should be able to cover the entire squad in death and you have two chances to do this. Plus the 4+ Inv save will protect against Melta shots or a Power Fist on the slim chance anything else lives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamelli Streamfisher Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 2 Devastator squads each with 2 plasma cannons and combi-plasma on each sergeant. That's going to do a number on the Sternguard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2383883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bystrom Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 I'm going to guess the flamers are weak against vehicles, so say a land raider crusader with psybolts, which'll also handle the dev squad quite well (as in very well). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 The Winged Bloodthirster they were screening is used to assault your landraider..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 The Winged Bloodthirster they were screening is used to assault your landraider..... 3x Land Speeder Typhoons hang back outside the Bloodthrister's 18" charge range and blast you with 6 Krak Missiles a turn. 4 hit, 3.5 wound, 1.75 saved, so roughly 3 turns until your dead (not counting any lucky wounds from the Heavy Bolters) and at no time are you able to catch up to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 3x Land Speeder Typhoons hang back outside the Bloodthrister's 18" charge range and blast you with 6 Krak Missiles a turn. 4 hit, 3.5 wound, 1.75 saved, so roughly 3 turns until your dead (not counting any lucky wounds from the Heavy Bolters) and at no time are you able to catch up to them. A pair of Riflemen Dreads would like to respond, each one is going to score 3.55 hits, 1.77 pens and .59 glances. That's going to strip you down pretty quickly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.C.118 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 A Devastator Squad with 4 Lascannons would like to shoot you up from the other side of the board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Until they get shot to pieces by 9 Damned Legionnaires with a Plasma Gun and a Plasma Pistol. They Deep Strike within 12" using Aid Unlooked For, and shred the Devs with rapid fire. If any Devs survive, the Legionnaires easily shrug off any return fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Sharp Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 My Grey Knight Purgation Squad with 4x Psycannons would like a word with you. No invulnerable save means no save period. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazardousZERO Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Rock. i could throw it and break your 300pt. Umm Khârn and a 8man squad of bezerkers. That's not that great but all i can think of right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 My Grey Knight Purgation Squad with 4x Psycannons would like a word with you. No invulnerable save means no save period. Sine Hazardous has produced Rock? lets step back: My Ironclad Dreadnaught is going to DP in next to you, heavy flamer and meltagun salvod in a with a couple of missiles for good measure. Next turn I can all but gaurantee youll be in assault range... try getting through my AV 13 puny mortals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200109-paper-rock-scissor-emperor/#findComment-2384553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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