KhorneHunter57x Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I agree but I think if you look carefully, you'll be able to see what elements would be needed for a successful army and how best to use them, at least in part. A prime example would be how important long range fire support is but how its also open to deepstriking/outflanking units. Also, it helps us in-game because if you notice which element your opponent's army is lacking, you can easily detect and exploit that weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 *double post* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_ Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 20 sniper Scouts from 3 feet away. It might take a couple turns to kill Lysander, but they will do it. While they shoot Lysander, a Defiler shoot them and charge them. -> Defiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 While they shoot Lysander, a Defiler shoot them and charge them. -> Defiler 5 Landspeeders with a multimelta each, organized in 3 squadrons, come racing over to intercept and destroy the defiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Isaac Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 3 Thunderfire Cannons sit in Bolstered ruins and sneeze at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowglie Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 3 Thunderfire Cannons sit in Bolstered ruins and sneeze at them 3 5-man scout squads infiltrate out of LoS and assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Isaac Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Three 5 man Tac squads :) you up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.C.118 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 A Land Raider Redeemer burns you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz1858 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 2 Ironclads tear your Land Raider a new access ramp <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.C.118 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 A 10 man Dev. Squad with 4 Lascannons will blow them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 A 10 man Dev. Squad with 4 Lascannons will blow them up. 21 Daemonettes, split into 3 squads all pounce on you and slowly Rend you to death. Doesn't matter that you're in cover since they have Frag equivalents and Lascannon still gets blocked by 5++. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 A 10 man Dev. Squad with 4 Lascannons will blow them up. 21 Daemonettes, split into 3 squads all pounce on you and slowly Rend you to death. Doesn't matter that you're in cover since they have Frag equivalents and Lascannon still gets blocked by 5++. I givve you lysander again, I then grind you out far better against your numbers as I slowly chew through your horrific plastic models (seriously, those are supposed to be attractive?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I givve you lysander again, I then grind you out far better against your numbers as I slowly chew through your horrific plastic models (seriously, those are supposed to be attractive?) I call for proof! ;) Seriously though, I think Captain Yellowbutt would lose that battle, he's just not killy enough against hordes. I'm at work but when I get home I'll run through a simulation unless someone beats me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I counter Lysander (or the Daemonettes, whichever one you decide wins the duel) with a StormRaven Gunship with a TL Assault Cannon, TL Heavy Bolter, and Hurricane Bolters. *dakkadakkadakkadakkadakkadakka* Can't kill what you can't catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I counter your stormraven with three Typhoons w/multimeltas. Well catch you alright.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Ok I'm home so I ran the numbers of Captain Yellowbutt vs 21 semi-sexy chicks. (Ignoring who gets the charge) 21 Daemonettes x 3 attacks = 63 attacks = 31.5 hits = 5.2 Rend and 5.2 normal hits = 1.7 +0.87 wounds = 2.57 wounds 3 Captain Yellowbutt attacks = 2 hits (not counting MC weapon) = 1.67 wounds = 1.1 dead Daemonettes 20 Daemonettes x 3 attacks = (skip math) = 2.4 wounds = dead Captain Yellowbutt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Ok I'm home so I ran the numbers of Captain Yellowbutt vs 21 semi-sexy chicks. (Ignoring who gets the charge) 21 Daemonettes x 3 attacks = 63 attacks = 31.5 hits = 5.2 Rend and 5.2 normal hits = 1.7 +0.87 wounds = 2.57 wounds 3 Captain Yellowbutt attacks = 2 hits (not counting MC weapon) = 1.67 wounds = 1.1 dead Daemonettes 20 Daemonettes x 3 attacks = (skip math) = 2.4 wounds = dead Captain Yellowbutt I thought you had a point, and I still raise you three Typhoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Isaac Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Land Raider Phobos goes FREEM! FREEM! FREEM! And they shall know no Speeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.C.118 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Combi-Melta Sternguard with a Drop Pod drop in and go out to destory that Land Raider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Josef Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Combi-Melta Sternguard with a Drop Pod drop in and go out to destory that Land Raider. Combi-Melta Sternguard with a Drop Pod drop in and go out to destory that Combi-Melta Sterguard. ******CYCLIC ERROR****** ********APPLICATION HAS PERFORMED AN ILLEGAL OPERATION AND MUST BE SHUT DOWN, THE ADEPTUS MECHANICUS APOLOGISE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE CAUSED. CLICK SEND TO INFORM US WITH AN ERROR REPORT WHERE WE WILL OBTAIN ALL PERSONAL INFORMATION AND COME ROUND TO YOUR HOUSE AND PURGE YOU FOR TRANSGRESSING AGAINST THE MACHINE SPIRIT******* Gutted lols!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.C.118 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Wait, what the... Well, it would depend on who got 1st turn. I don't Mathhammer, even though I am capable of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Isaac Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 So... 8 Sternguard with Combi-Plasmas and a Power Fist drop by in a pod and smash your Sternguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malthe Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 5 Assault Terminators with LC and basic chaplin (or sanguinary priest if you like BA). I charge, you die:) Yay, first post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Ok I'm home so I ran the numbers of Captain Yellowbutt vs 21 semi-sexy chicks. (Ignoring who gets the charge) 21 Daemonettes x 3 attacks = 63 attacks = 31.5 hits = 5.2 Rend and 5.2 normal hits = 1.7 +0.87 wounds = 2.57 wounds 3 Captain Yellowbutt attacks = 2 hits (not counting MC weapon) = 1.67 wounds = 1.1 dead Daemonettes 20 Daemonettes x 3 attacks = (skip math) = 2.4 wounds = dead Captain Yellowbutt You seem to have made an error, you at first note the daemonettes to have given him 2.5 wounds then 2.4, try and keep consistent. Regardless, my Lysander is by no means that sort of weakling, you can have the first two wounds but he then just becomes unkillable. I am serious, it will be the first two possible wounds from anything: grots, bolters, lascannons, ANYTHING. He will last til turn 5-7 in constant coatings of wounds without question. (and my counter for the most recent: 8 heavy bolters from 2 devastator squads, have a nice day while you march through a torrent of 24 shots a turn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 The switch from 2.5 to 2.4 wounds is due to the dead Daemonette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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