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So when I signed up I said I wasn't going to make a WIP thread cause I already clutter up the board far too much, but Brothers I could use some opinions, so rather than post needlessly in the main thread I've decided to bite the bullet and create this thread instead.

 

This is my Wolf Lord: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/IronPriestfront.jpg

 

I'm still fleshing out the reasons for his rather unusual style of armour, although that is not the reason for my posting. I thought it would look more practical, in terms of being able to use his giant hammer two handed (as well as looking kinda cool as well) if I made him a wrist mounted storm bolter. (not really the best loadout for a WL I'm sure, but I prefer cool looking models more tooling up to try to guarantee the win). It would also make him look less like an Iron Priest and more like a Wolf Lord, although admittedly he still looks very much connected to the forges of the Fang.

 

This is my progress so far: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WolfLordSB1.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WolfLordSB2.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WolfLordSB3.jpg

(everything is still blu-tacked which is why the mould lines haven't been cleaned yet)

 

Now I know that a storm bolter is not an elegant weapon, but my question to you brothers is this: Does the (unfinished) one in the photos look too unwieldy to be where it is? Is it still too large? I've used both Kantor's Dorn's Arrow and the storm bolters of PA'd Grey Knights for reference but I'm still not entirely sure if it looks ok.

I'm planning on using a cut down ammo box from a terminator storm bolter and using green stuff to create a mount that fixes the weapon to his wrist, but is it worth my while continuing?

 

Any assistance is appreciated :huh:

 

James

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Well, I looked at it and i thought "Cool, that looks like an updated version of the old Iron Priest." Especially with the Hammer and the pose.

Big axes are kind of stereotypical for SW's so I appreciate that you have chosen a Hammer, but that makes him look like a homage to the old model.

 

If you cover the cables on the loincloth with fur and remove the cogs it might look more like a Wolf Lord with an especially intricate set of armor. Though in my opinion, you have to change the silhouette a bit more to really make him look different. Get rid of the trademark longshafted weapon held at the side either by changing the pose, switching the hand holding the weapon or using something different. The Runepriest comes with an axe that would fit well on the arm and fit the overall relaxed "purposefully striding TM" pose of the model. But it would probably be enough to add the pointing arm from the command squad or something similar and add the hammer in a "rallying cry" or "forward" motion pose (especially with the screaming face).

 

I really like the design of the backpack and if you take the weird hairdo off of the head it would look ded 'ard an' killy.

The wrist mounted stormbolters seem to have a slightly smaller casing than the handheld ones, but I don't think that's a problem. By placing it on the wrist it becomes smaller than a normal one anyways.

 

 

You are off to a great start. I'll enjoy watching this. :D

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I'm a little sketchy on Space Wolf Fluff, so take this with a grain... okay a bottle of salt. But my understanding is that while the Iron Priests stand apart from the Wolf Lords, they are themselves highly revered with in the chapter and that like the Tech Marines of other chapters, the Iron Priests fight just as hard to recover lost technology or disabled vehicles.

 

With that thinking in mind, I can see an Iron Priest leading an expeditionary force of wolves for the purpose of recovery. Now, with that said, about the model.

 

First thing, you need to Wolfinize the main body a little. I mean sure he can still be a Iron Priest in appearance, but he's a son of Fenris first. Perhaps sculpting a wolf pelt loin cloth and cloak and add a Wolf Tooth necklace (Isn't there one on the SW frame?) Here's a link to a topic on Sculpting Wolf Skin cloaks.

Second thing, the head. The face is wide mouthed and it looks like he's screaming or shouting. Very Wolf like indeed. But it conflicts with the body. The body is making a short strided, confident walk. Imagine what your body would be doing if you were shouting like the face is. Chances are you'd be charging into something, or shouting to be heard as you direct something. With that in mind I would suggest 2 things.

1) Turn the head toward the body's left shoulder

2) Put a pointing arm on the left shoulder. The arm from the Space Marine company champion would work well. You can reattach your thunder hammer to the arm to make it look he's directing a bombardment or ordering a squad forward and that he's shouting to be heard. I did a similar conversion on my techmarine a while back. I'll see if I can find it and post a pic of it so you know what I'm talking about.

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Thanks for the replies guys, they are very much appreciated. Hopefully these pics are a step in the right direction:

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WolfLord1.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WolfLord2.jpg

 

As you can see I've changed the head to one that better suits the pose of the body (thanks maverike_prime I didn't even think about that :lol:) I've also removed the large cog from his belly plate, although I think I'll keep the cables as I want him to retain the techy look, I'm thinking of him more along the lines you discussed in your post. I'd like to try and get some pelt on him somehow even if it's only on his shoulder pad or something like that.

 

I've also changed the storm bolter as suggested by Lorenzen. I'm still not entirely convinced by it though. Obviuosly it's kind of hard to look at it properly as it's just two bolt pistols stuck together just now instead of being a storm bolter integrated into his gauntlet. I've got two of these arms and hands so what I might do is finish the storm bolter on one of them and then re-post him.

 

I'm afraid I'm set on the long hafted hammer Durus. It's difficult to explain why but to me he just has to have it, it's his staff of power, badge of office and main weapon as it were, like Gandalf's staff in LotR, hopefully that kinda makes sense.

 

James

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Nice head choice. Works much better with the body. Good job with replacing the Admech symbol. Makes a big difference. Personally I think he needs more Wolfinizing.... Wolfinize? That sounds like the Space Wolf version of an aerobic exercises. Hehe, I can see Ragnar now "Okay pups. One and two and stretch. Now lift, now turn. Feel the burn" :lol:.

 

Where was I? Right Wolfinizing him. Space wolf is general very 'busy' with lost of things added to it and hanging from it. Wolf tail totems, Tooth necklaces, Campaign ribbons, Captured Trophies, ect. I think you're gonna need that sort of "adapted armor" look to carry that he's a space wolf and not a Techmarine playing Trick or Treat.

 

Nice move replacing the twin-bolters for the Bolt pistols. Why'd you cut off the backs of them though? Once you're set on the pieces and have them attached you can go back in with a little green stuff and build a body housing around the pistols so they look more like a storm bolter.

 

All in all, I'd say you're on a good solid start. I'll be honest and say I have no interested in Mutant puppie.... er Space Wolves, but I am interested to see how this project turns out. Keep us posted.

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Ha Ha Ha.... Wolfinizing! I think I'm gonna have to sig that :lol:

 

I'm gonna go through all my wolfie bitz and pull out all the gems, rune stones, wolf tails etc and try and fit them on to him in a trophy heavy but not OTT way.

 

I cut the backs of the Bolt Pistols cause I thought they looked too long. I know marines are not scaled right but they looked a bit strange coming up to his elbow. What I was thinking was filling in all the gaps in the sides of the casing and then trying to make a shorter version of the back parts that fists into the gap between the casing and his elbow. There would then be a greenstuffed 'band' that ran around his wrist that held the storm bolter in place.

 

I'll update when I've made some progress :)

 

cheers

 

James

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Looking good mate, I reconise most of the model. Like one of the guys sugested, maybe a couple of trimmed bolter, with an ammo feed?

 

Be great to see it in the paint process, keep up all posted, and keep up the good work :lol:

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Long-handled hammers are useful for whacking things you aren't standing right next to. Obviously.

 

Just like the existence of flamethrowers indicates that someone, somewhere once thought "Hmm, I'd really like that guy over there to be on fire, but I just can't seem to get the job done from here...."

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I've updated in the CotI thread but thought I'd stick up the new pics in here too:

 

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/DSCF8066.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/DSCF8065.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/DSCF8067.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/DSCF8068.jpg

 

I've finished his storm bolter arm now all I need to do is fill the gap in the shoulder joint and decide whether to try and sculpt a small pelt for the right shoulder pad or not...

 

James

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My friend this is turning out to be one epic character! I'd probably leave the pelt off, you have a lot of SW on him already with all the heraldry and his weapon.

Given his possition and fluff I'd say leave him as is to make him stand out more ( since pelts have a habit of blending in when playing SW :P )

 

Speaking of the fluff, I like it. Reminds me a lot off the fluff for He'stan with the searching for relics of the past ( who knows, mabe he'll find enough of russ's wardrobe and the old hound will come back! ).

 

Now I'd say mount him on a terminator size base though. That way you can give him some luv'n on the base as well just to make it that much more epic.

 

Can't wait for more :D

 

Cheers!

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  • 2 weeks later...

@ Alexander Fogh Pedersenand Sgt.Rob: thanks for you comments brothers :HQ:

 

Not loads of progress yet I'm afraid (as I was hoping to have some paint on him by now) but I'm working on a squad of Noise Marines for a commission just now, as well as playing the Halo: Reach beta... but he's ready for undercoating today so I'll be able to work on him at lunch times at work as of tomorrow :HQ:

 

One final lot of photos before undercoating:

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/wlrfu1.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/wlrfu2.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/wlrfu3.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/wlrfu4.jpg

 

 

as you can see he is now based, and I've finished up all the remaining G/S work so once the kids are fed and happy this afternoon I'll get the can of Chaos Black on to him.

 

james

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Just a quick update: I started actually painting my Wolf Lord on tuesday night, so far this is how he looks:

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WL1.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WL2.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WL3.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WL4.jpg

 

Still quite a bit to do, and I'm struggling to come up with colours for his banner just now as well...

 

more to come soon

 

cheers

 

James

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Thanks Snorri, hopefully I've gone in the right direction because I've gone with your suggestion of red and grey :(

 

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WLB1.jpghttp://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/Space%20Wolves%20Army/WLB2.jpg

 

In an attempt to continue to explore the world of colour theory and learn from my Golden Bolter mistakes, I built the red up using greys mixed with scab red to give the banner a softer more cloth-like appearance, before shading it with greens to try ang keep the vibrancy of the colours I'd got in place. I'm quite happy with the result and will defnately b continuing to explore this area of painting in furure. Oh, and don't worry.... the wolf on the banner isn't finished yet that's just the basecoat on there just now :-)

 

thanks

 

James

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i still needs some details like wolf pelts, wolf tails, etc. seems really blah.. It does seem practical if he's a smith ( I'd not want to singe my wolf fur either.)

maybe at chained in wolf fur to armor. Idk make it look more feral.

 

but it is a good mini. It just needs some pizazz!!

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@ DeathKnight2000: I know where you're coming from, but I don't really like overly cluttered mini's. It's also a bit late to add anything to him now, so I'll go with he doesn't have very much in the way of fur because he is a warrior-smith and this is his 'fighting armour' He has a ceromonial suit he keeps in the Fang which is positively dripping with pelts, tails and talismans. He loves it about as much as Russ alledgedly loved his spear, although he tends to 'loose' it a lot less often :). That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it...

 

@ Natanael and S. Bloodhowl: The armour is really easy to do (see the recipe below, although proper homage must be paid to Kapturowski and his 13th company Wolves as he came up with the original idea). It's not quite finished yet, it still needs to have the final wash of Scorched Brown added to it, but as a couple of the other elements of the mini are going to be recieving the same treatment I'm waiting to do them all in one go :)

 

This is how I did the armour:

undercoat Chaos Black

Basecoat Shadow Grey

light drybrush of Space Wolves Grey

wash whole mini with Badab Black

drybrush downwards with Space Wolves Grey

lighter drybrush downwards with Skull White

wash recesess with watered down Dark Flesh

wash 'inside' the previous wash with watered down Scorched Brown

wash the whole mini with watered down Scorched Brown

 

hope this proves of some use to you. If you're interested you can see it on some other mini's here and the test mini for the colours can be found in post #146 (about half way down) here.

 

thanks

 

James

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