Necron God Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Autrach Jet bike Mandiblasters Fusion Gun Laser Lance Farseer Spirit Stones Runes of Witnessing Fortune Guilde 4 Wraithguard SpiritSeer conceal 6 Jetbikes Warlock on jetbike 2 shuriken cannons singing spear 5 Pathfinders 2 war walkers 4 scatter lasers wraith lord wraithsword missile launcher wraith lord wraithsword missile launcher So there is the list- I got 1200 points to use! Now how would YOU beat it using that many points! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I accept! HQ Rune Priest with Chooser of the Slain - Living Lightning and Tempest's Wrath, Saga of the Beast Slayer 120pts ELITES Lone Wolf with TDA, Storm Shield, Thunder hammer. 85pts Lone Wolf with TDA, Storm Shield, Thunder hammer. 85pts TROOPS 5GH's with a MG, MoTW, Standard; in a Razorback with las/plas. 180pts 5GH's with a MG, MoTW, Standard; in a Razorback with las/plas. 180pts FAST ATTACK Landspeeder Typhoon with heavy bolter 90pts Landspeeder Typhoon with heavy bolter 90pts Landspeeder Typhoon with heavy bolter 90pts HEAVY SUPPORT 6 Long Fangs. 5 Missile launchers. 140pts 6 Long Fangs. 5 Missile launchers. 140pts Thats 1200pts. Use the LF's to set up a fire base; put the Razors in front, with a RP around to cast Tempest and to use LL on warwalkers and the like. Use the fact you have 16 Krak missiles and two lascannons first turn to good effect! Run the LW's at the Wraithlords, if they are still standing, or simply to guard your firebase. Job done. Nightrunner out! NR ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2390243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Rune Priest- Tempests Wrath, Murderous Hurricane- 100pts. Dreadnaught- AC, HF, EA, WTT- 135pts. Dreadnaught- AC, HF, EA, WTT- 135pts. 5 Grey Hunters- PlasmaRifle, PF- 110pts. 10 Grey Hunters- 2xMG, PW, WT, Rhino- 215pts. 10 Grey Hunters- 2xPG, PF, WT, Rhino- 230pts. Long Fangs- 4x Missile Launcher- Las/Plas Razorback- 190pts. Whirlwind- 85pts. 1200pts. Turn 1- Drop the whirlwind on the pathfinders, hit the warwalkers with the long fangs... and if they arent visible, kill a wraithlord. Set Grey Hunters up on the flanks or send after objectives as needed, with dreads as support. Turn 2+ Continue until all walkers and MCs are dead. Use the bikes short range against them and simply wait for them to come close enough to hit. Counter-charge with a dreadnaught if they are stupid enough to assault. Use Plasma against walkers/wraiths once theyre in range, or against bikes as needed. Whirlwind redirects to the bikes once the pathfinders are crispified. Should be over on turn 4 with decent rolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2390257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necron God Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 Must say I like Grey Mages idea! He is winning imo atmo! Sorry nightrunner! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2390266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 the main reason i like GM's more is because it has more troops which feels "safer" to me (with objectives in mind). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2390746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekiem Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Both lists are good. In Nightrunner's I would not take speeders with HBs, though. Against most of those units the HBs will bounce off. Drop them and take more GHs with plasma and MGs. This is also an extremely slow Eldar army for the most part. For me I would take a runepriest. This is a must if for no other reason the 4+ chance to stop powers. You stop fortune and guide and this list loses quite a bit. At least one unit of longfangs with missles. krak kills just about everything in this list. Since it is a slow list I would abuse them with krak as they advance on you. Obviously need some GHs for troops and I would be partial to plasma for the double tap and range. I'd give them powerfists, too. You are going to go last no matter what in an assault, but a powerfist will kill this stuff good. A dread for fire support and as counter assault would be good, too. I'd ignore the pathfinders and focus on the other stuff. If you must move/kill them then assault them or flame them. But if you go mech they pretty much can't touch you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2390972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Both lists are good. In Nightrunner's I would not take speeders with HBs, though. Against most of those units the HBs will bounce off. Drop them and take more GHs with plasma and MGs. This is also an extremely slow Eldar army for the most part. For me I would take a runepriest. This is a must if for no other reason the 4+ chance to stop powers. You stop fortune and guide and this list loses quite a bit. At least one unit of longfangs with missles. krak kills just about everything in this list. Since it is a slow list I would abuse them with krak as they advance on you. Obviously need some GHs for troops and I would be partial to plasma for the double tap and range. I'd give them powerfists, too. You are going to go last no matter what in an assault, but a powerfist will kill this stuff good. A dread for fire support and as counter assault would be good, too. I'd ignore the pathfinders and focus on the other stuff. If you must move/kill them then assault them or flame them. But if you go mech they pretty much can't touch you. How would i beat this list? With a baseball bat while the player was sleeping. Really though,I don't think i could come up with something better then Grey mage did without going for the overly mechanized silliness. Ive been tossing around ideas for a 1000 pt list that uses two land raiders.a rune priest for each for Cover saves,and grey hunters till you run out of points lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2391043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfeild32 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 HQ: Astorath the Grim 220 pts Astorath the Grim Heavy Support: Stormraven Gunship 245 pts) Stormraven Gunship Troops: Assault Squad (7 , 424 pts) Assault Squad Assault Marine with Flamer Sergeant Remove Jump Packs; Power Weapon (x1); Storm Shield (x1) land raider crusader EA Troops: Assault Squad (6 , 110 pts) Assault Squad 3 4 4 4 4 1 4 1/2 8 3+ 110 Remove Jump Packs; Meltagun; Drop Pod Assault Marine with Meltagun Remove Jump Packs Sergeant Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon Drop Pod 5 Sanguinary Guard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2391092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necron God Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 sorry redfield...but there is a reason why this in in the SPACE WOLF forum! Also some more info! The mission is dawn of war!! Thats it! lol Right so everything in reserve except 2 troops and 1 hq if I wish! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2391223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Same army, but setup the Plasmahunters, the smaller plasmahunters, and the Rune Priest in cover. Bring everything else on turn 1, use the plasmahunters rhino to give a bit of cover for the long fangs as they set up shop somewhere. Move it away next turn. Proceed with the destruction of the enemy at range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2391252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necron God Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 how about this? 1200 Points vs. Andy Battle Leader <--- I HAVE to have this guy Storm Shield Wolf Claw Melta Bombs Rune Priest Living Lightning Jaws of the World Wolf 10 Grey Hunters 2 Plasma Guns 10 Grey Hunters 2 Plasma Guns 10 Grey Hunters 2 Plasma Guns 3 Thunder Wolves <----1.thunder hammer, storm shield 2.storm shield, cc weapon 3.Basic 2 Storm Shields 1 Thunder Hammer Whirlwind Predator TL Lascannon Sponson Lascannon 1195 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2391484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Jaws is pretty much a wash against Eldar. Rock them with the Hurricane! Obvious pun, but I had too. :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2391654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Tempests Wrath- Deepstriking, jump infantry, and skimmers... all very common in Eldar lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2391898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Yeah, I never take large amounts of troops.... playing it "safe" is not in my tactical arsenal! Ive always found that large squads of GH's just don't cut it against anything truly hard to kill... but that's me, don't want to de-rail the OP with that discussion! Let us know how it goes! NR :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2392504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necron God Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 thanks, the game is on tuesday! if I win both games that day I win a space wolf battle force for coming first :rolleyes: This is the second game vs the eldar player (also the lector) who is second and is excepted to win, even tho i am 3 points ahead! will be close! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200661-how-would-you-beat-this-list/#findComment-2392921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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