Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Based off of the Dornian Heresy their are now alot of new themes and alternatives to apply when making a space marine or chaos marine army. What I am wondering is how would people make their chosen armies? For instance what rules and units would be used to make the BA of Nurgle, the fanatic heavy army of the Word Bearers, Abaddons Black Templars, Space Wolves of Khorne or the Raven Gaurd of Tzeench? Would players just take the cannon lists and make new models to represent them? Also if anyone has any conversion ideas or plans? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Based off of the Dornian Heresy their are now alot of new themes and alternatives to apply when making a space marine or chaos marine army. What I am wondering is how would people make their chosen armies? For instance what rules and units would be used to make the BA of Nurgle, the fanatic heavy army of the Word Bearers, Abaddons Black Templars, Space Wolves of Khorne or the Raven Gaurd of Tzeench? Would players just take the cannon lists and make new models to represent them? Also if anyone has any conversion ideas or plans? I would simply use Codex: Space Marines for the World Eaters and Emperor's Children, Codex: Black Templars for the Word Bearers, Codex: CSM for the SW, RG, BA and WS. We don't know what the Black Templars of Abbadon will be like, so I will pass on them for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2390629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 I only gave those specific legions as examples. And im looking for more detailed ideas than just I'll use this codex and that codex. For instance to make the Word Bearers id use with a space marine army with WH allies so i could take inquisitorial storm troopers to represent the fanatics or religious soldiers who fight along side the legion. Of course i would take chaplain cassius as a counts as character, I would also use the DA veterans robes to represent my marines. In another example i would probably use the SM codex with DH allies to represent the Thousand Sons as in the Dornian Heresy it is suggested that the Grey Knights are actually created from the Thousand Sons gene stock. This would allow me to take a grand master as my DH HQ and Tigurius as my SM HQ and then i would take a mix of normal marines whos "skills" havent fully developed while the DH marines would represent the more talented or experienced bretheren. I would give examples for how i would make the new chaos legions but i dont have the codex for chaos space marines. I can say if i did the Black Legion i would of course use alot of possesed marines. Also concerning counts as characters I think Lysander would make a great Iron Hands company master or as i already said Tigurius as a Thousand Sons librarian. Shrike would make a good Night Lord captain while Cassius would work well for the Word Bearers. These are the kind of plans im looking to see Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2390904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Try to stick to older equipment as much as possible, the Chaos Codex would come in handy for that I guess. This wouldn't be that different from the other discussions we've been having on rules for the Horus Heresy. What might be an even cooler project for the longer run is to create some sort of "Dornian Heresy Codex", very similar to what the Tempus Fugitives fellows did for the Horus Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 Soooooo no one has any ideas or suggestions as to how they would do the armies? not even conversion ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Blood Angels: Chaos Codex, lots of Marks of Nurgle, lots of close combat units (Raptors, Marines with close combat weapons, etc), Plague Marines. Daemon Prince with wings (Sanguinius). Modelling-wise they would be a lot of fun to do. Get the Blood Angel kits and basically nurglefy them by making them look rotten and decayed. Emperor's Children: Space Marines Codex, a little bit of everything units. Primarily older technology, so just stick to normal Rhinos, Land Raiders and Predators Destructors rather than newer gear. Modellingwise just make them look clean and give them older armour and vehicle Mks. Raven Guard: Thirteenth Company Codex? You need Wulfen! Modellingwise I would just try to get your hands on Space Marine and Kroot kits oh and a lot of greenstuff and just go crazy. Perhaps it might be a better idea to work together on a home grown large codex for these guys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 I wouldent have a problem doing that. In fact i think it would be fun to do, anyone else want to join in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 My friend has most of the chapters based from Rogal Dorn's Geneseed. lol. I wonder how he would do all of these Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 My friend has most of the chapters based from Rogal Dorn's Geneseed. lol. I wonder how he would do all of these Huh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Rex Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Rules design is not really my thing - but I am liking this thread. :D In another example i would probably use the SM codex with DH allies to represent the Thousand Sons as in the Dornian Heresy it is suggested that the Grey Knights are actually created from the Thousand Sons gene stock. Wanted to pick this up, though... The Grey Knights are the name given by the Imperials to the Sensei and their warbands - the immortal biological offspring of the Emperor. Not even they know their true lineage - although Magnus is on a mission to inform and 'collect' them - they are seen as troublemakers by the Imperial authorities who try to hunt them down. On the subject of Dornian Heresy rules, has anyone spotted the colourpiece that hints about a Dornian Heresy version of Space Hulk? Bonus points for anyone who guesses it. :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skritz Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Well, I am incorporating the idea of Nurgle BA into my army but overall im going with my own vision. :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Twisted Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I'm toying with the idea of a Grey Knight/Space Marine force to represent the Word Bearers. I can already imagine much of the Dark Angels upgrade packs going into the army. Maybe I'll use Sicarius, Lysander, or Stern to represent Sebastian Thor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Rex Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I'm toying with the idea of a Grey Knight/Space Marine force to represent the Word Bearers. I can already imagine much of the Dark Angels upgrade packs going into the army. Maybe I'll use Sicarius, Lysander, or Stern to represent Sebastian Thor. I always thought that a dispensible horde of loony, ragged zealots (using bits from the WH flagellant miniatures) would be perfect as bullet-catchers for the Word Bearers, and black-clad storm troopers for the Frateris Militaris. :sweat: How to represent that? No problem in an Apocalypse game, but perhapsin a normal one try allied Inquisitiorial Storm troopers and some inducted Imperial guard or arbites, with only the bare minimum of weaponry and armour for the fanatic hordes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2391908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 The Frateris Milita used to have models in the second edition. They were more akin to civilian looking models with pistols. Really cool models too! The Frateris Templars, I always imagined them to be akin to a male version of the Sisters of Battle. Thus, power armour (SoB style but male) and bolters/hellguns. Note that in the fluff their (and the SoB) power armour are very much inferior to that of the Adeptus Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2392013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 I was thinking about a Raven Guard army, CSM Codex, lots of Obliterators and Possessed led by a Sorceror or two... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2392906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 I was thinking about a Raven Guard army, CSM Codex, lots of Obliterators and Possessed led by a Sorceror or two... Wouldent you also put spawn in your list? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2392922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Honestly, I'd make the Word Bearers grey knights, and the Sons of Horus like the Dark Angels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2392996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 9, 2010 Author Share Posted May 9, 2010 Honestly, I'd make the Word Bearers grey knights, and the Sons of Horus like the Dark Angels How do you figure that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2393040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Well, the world bearers are just like the Grey Knights in a way, they absolutely love the Emperor and worship him more than any of the legions. And the Sons of Horus would be like Dark angels because of Horus's ordeal with chaos and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2393074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I despise smurfs in the regular timeline, but of the legions presented in volume 1, they're the only ones that make me want to say "mine!" Unfortuntately, to get that Mk16 armor look (anyone else notice how the Ultras abandoned roman numberals and went to straight latin numbering?) would take entirely too much conversion work which I don't know how to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2393103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 9, 2010 Author Share Posted May 9, 2010 Well, the world bearers are just like the Grey Knights in a way, they absolutely love the Emperor and worship him more than any of the legions. And the Sons of Horus would be like Dark angels because of Horus's ordeal with chaos and such. I can consede that the Grey Knights and Word Bearers are both sheilded by their faith so that could kind of work, but for the Dark Angels and Luna Wolves thing you havent really sold me on that. The DA have had alot of experience with chaos due to half of their legion turning to chaos but they dont have any special rules because of it. I mean if you wanted to use the Death Wing to represent Abbadon and his 1st company i could see that. But thats about all i could see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2393113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leebe Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I was thinking about making a kind of mini-codex for the Alternate Heresy actually (was gonna run it by Aurelius of course, I'm sure he remembers my previous interest in helping with the Alternate Heresy, ha). Much as I'd like to point "X codex matches Y legion", it doesn't quite fit in the AH. The Blood Angels, for example, don't really mesh with the traditional plague marine rules; while the Raven Guard have the closest thing to Obliterators (Annihilators), yet still with some differences that'd need to be worked out. Probably the simplest would be the World Eaters, who match closest to the regular marines codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2393167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 we should probably try to break up the work, maybe assign a few people to each legion? I would be willing to help with the UM rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2393691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenaur Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Yeah, I would also be interested in developing a Dornian crusade heresy codex (especially the Thousand Sons Part) so count me in if the B&C community decides to make one, hey it would be a good idea to put in episodes in the legio Imprint and then collect it all together in a PDF at the end! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2393880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarStone Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 The Grey Knights are the name given by the Imperials to the Sensei and their warbands - the immortal biological offspring of the Emperor. Not even they know their true lineage - although Magnus is on a mission to inform and 'collect' them - they are seen as troublemakers by the Imperial authorities who try to hunt them down. No, the Sensei (the term the use for themselves; see page 217, Slaves to Darkness) are the immortal biological, psychically null, offspring of the Emperor. The Grey Knights have always ever been of an unregistered founding, of unknown geneseed origin (see page 247, Slaves to Darkness; page 6, Codex: Daemonhunters; Index Astartes article "Purge the Unclean: The Grey Knights and Deathwatch Chapters"). You're confusing the two entirely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200683-dornian-heresy-armies/#findComment-2393883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.