WeWillBuryYou Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Little background. Started up the hobby again and have been slowly rebuilding my sw army. nothings really fully painted, mostly just primed. So after having read the Dornian Heresy I've been toying around with the idea of painting/modeling my wolves to be khornate. I think the modeling/painting possibilities are even greater than just normal Space Wolves, which is really saying something. Has anyone been thinking about this, or possibly done it? Got ideas or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Dornian Heresey: Ehh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2390926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Dornian Heresey: Ehh. Whats 'ehh' mean? Don't know what we're talking about, don't like the idea, what? @OP: If you've got the bits to make a Khornate wolf army, go for it. I personally like the dornian heresy fluff, but as they say, this is your army, you get to do what you like with it. What you might want to do is, since the dornian heresy IA mentions the iron collar things the wolves wear is get a whole bunch of the Mark 8 chest pieces from the tac squad kit. That has a raised gorget which would be the easiest way to represent the collar imho. Good luck mate! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2390932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Dornian Heresey: Ehh. Whats 'ehh' mean? Don't know what we're talking about, don't like the idea, what? @OP: If you've got the bits to make a Khornate wolf army, go for it. I personally like the dornian heresy fluff, but as they say, this is your army, you get to do what you like with it. What you might want to do is, since the dornian heresy IA mentions the iron collar things the wolves wear is get a whole bunch of the Mark 8 chest pieces from the tac squad kit. That has a raised gorget which would be the easiest way to represent the collar imho. Good luck mate! Well..haven't read the fluff for it...but to be honest...if Wolves were going to fall to chaos...it would definitely be Khorne that we went to. If for no other reason then one more reason to whip the pansy thousand sons like redheaded stepchildren. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2390937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The link to the fluff is in the banner at the top of the web page. It makes for an entertaining read if you have the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2390939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Sounds like a fun idea. Use 3 full packs of fenrisian wolves and make sure one of your HQs has Saga of the Wolfkin. You have a nice horde of MEQ troops (WS/S/T all = 4) that strike first (I = 5) for a reasonable amount of points!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2390940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWillBuryYou Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 besides filling in juggernauts for thunderwolves anyone have any ideas for khorney customizations? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2390950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I didn't like that they made SWs Khorne follows...even though I love screaming blood for the blood god at random points in the day at work/home. Rune Priests are vital to the way we work. They guide the Great Wolf and various Wolf Lords. That having been said, its a toughy to call. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2391096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Depending on how detailed you are wanting to get in your conversions I would suggest representing them as feral, rabid wolves. I would use fantasy warrior of chaos bits as they are already fairly viking-ish. For your Fenrisian Wolves you could use chaos warhounds, i can invision using the chaos terminator lord combined with space wolf bits. Also if you have the inclination i would look into the video games viking battle for asgard and too human. They are both viking themed and both have helish enemies including berserkers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2391124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 ...even though I love screaming blood for the blood god at random points in the day at work/home. Thank Khorne, I'm not the only one who does that. I liked the idea, though it rattled me to my core. It made me realize that the Space Wolves really are just a fine line from screaming for blood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2391128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 what i find really funny is i was in the BT forum a little bit ago and a player thought his marines might have got sligtly corrupted by Chaos, but were still loyal to the Throne. this comment produced many pages of comments saying that the BT COULDNT be corrupted by chaos, with only a few people (myself included) saying any Marine, with the exception of the Grey Knights, can fall to chaos. here, in the Fang, we acknowledge the dangers of chaos. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2391140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 ...even though I love screaming blood for the blood god at random points in the day at work/home. Thank Khorne, I'm not the only one who does that. I liked the idea, though it rattled me to my core. It made me realize that the Space Wolves really are just a fine line from screaming for blood. I don't think that's true, and it's why I dislike the idea so much. The honour and traditions of the Space Wolves is an intricate thing, and is what defines them. The animal that lurks inside each of them is no more malevolent then a true wolf. Wild and Bestial? Yes. blood thirsty? No, I don't think so . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2391195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yes, and if Russ had fallen to the beast within then the legion would have certainly followed him en mass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2391198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Sarcasm? Serious? I also don't think a bestial Space Wolf is something Khorne can reason with and appeal to anymore then a regular Fenrisian Wolf. Just my two cents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2391206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Serious.... its not hard to imagine a love of battle turning into a love of bloodshed. That feelings of betrayal could turn loyalty to hate, and honor into ruthlessness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2391256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I didn't like that they made SWs Khorne follows...even though I love screaming blood for the blood god at random points in the day at work/home. Rune Priests are vital to the way we work. They guide the Great Wolf and various Wolf Lords. That having been said, its a toughy to call. Thats the point. In each of the donian heresy bits they picked a few critical points and twisted them to result in a different outcome. Our wolves had two major turning points, the destruction of runepriests and resulting hatred of psykers being the first. The second was the Emperor's favor of Magnus and his legion, which coupled with the first factor drove our lads to think of the Allfather as foe rather than friend. Also, remember that Khorne used to almost be as much about honor in battle and killing psykers as he was about spilling blood. Only in the last what five years? has GW gone on the BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD tangent. Those ideas appeal to the space wolf mindset. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2392106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacho Wolf Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Yeah, I realy like the dornian heresy, but back to the question about actualy making the khorne wolves, there was a thread on them in the hall of honor not long ago about it, and they looked great, so if you want to do it I think it will work out fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2392239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Yeah, I realy like the dornian heresy, but back to the question about actualy making the khorne wolves, there was a thread on them in the hall of honor not long ago about it, and they looked great, so if you want to do it I think it will work out fine. If you look at the lore around Khorne in the Fantasy setting,most times the warriors that fall to Khorne,first start in taking pride in their abilities to deal death,then slip towards enjoying dealing death,and then are fully entrapped within his clutches.And you cannot stand there and tell me that we Wolves are not Proud Warriors. Were it not for our fervent belief in Russ and our loyalty to him,constantly reinforced by the wolf priests,it would be a very simple matter for the Space Wolves to Fall to Khorne worship in mass. Imagine for a Moment,Russ returning and saying to the Wolf Lords that the Emperor had betrayed him and us,sought to lock him away in the Warp and deprive us of our Primarch because we would not follow the Codex Astartes. That the only chance for the Wolves to survive was to bring down the Imperium. The Wolves would follow Russ and turn the Galaxy into a blood bath.We wouldn't need to fall to Chaos to do something like that,though the feelings of hate and betrayal that would arise towards the Emperor would certainly make it easier. And the fact is,we would likely becomes Khorne's favored very quickly since our Ferocity is all ready enough to stand up to any of his followers and stand a good chance of succeeding. Now then,can someone put a link to the Dornian heresy stuff in their post so i can read it...for some reason the version of Firefox on this computer wont show any sort of banner =( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2392387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Rex Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 There is a thread on it here in the Space Wolf section, but clicking on the banner should take you to this thread. There is a link at the bottom of the first post from which you can download the pdf. There is a similar link to the thread in my sig, and also a link to the extra Iron Warriors IA. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2392780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 There is a thread on it here in the Space Wolf section, but clicking on the banner should take you to this thread. There is a link at the bottom of the first post from which you can download the pdf. There is a similar link to the thread in my sig, and also a link to the extra Iron Warriors IA. :( All I can say is...Wow..the writers did an amazing job with that.I especially loved the explanation of where skyrar's dark wolves came from. That was particularly beautiful. And Aurelius like i said,It wasn't a matter of not being able to find the banner,the version of the boards i have,doesn't give me a banner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2392854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphalupine Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 HERESY! There is very little chance that the wolves as a whole would turn to chaos. Could they be tricked or misled into following a poor choice and acting on it? Yes. This wouldn't be a conversion, but more like betrayal. Would they sell out and betray the righteous path? No! Have all the old wolves forgotten why we turn into wulfen? Has everyone forgotten the 13th Company? The wulfen is a gift from Russ to help us battle chaos. It's a built in defense mechanism to protect all wolves. Russ knew this and is why he ordered the 13th Company to follow Magnus into the Eye. Also do you think it's pure coincidence, with Fenris being so close to the Eye of Terror, that the wolves haven't been seduced already? Oh yes yes some will argue that wolves turn into wulfen because they can't control the beast within. It is also said that wolves who turn in this way are mindless beasts. This is a true statement in many instances. However there is a chance that the wolf can control the wulfen and coexist. Once again may I remind you of the 13th Company, whom are all affected by the mark of the wulfen and are in control or themselves even if just barely. So I say nay to Khorne Wolves and there is no way you can convince me otherwise...however I would love for you to try! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2393205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacho Wolf Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 @ alphalupine The way it happens in the dornian herasy is that Russ goes to khorne, in an effort to protect the legion from psykers. and the rest follow him. Remember, fenresians respect martial prowess alot, and russ was the best of them all, so why wouldnt they follow him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2393232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Because the Emperor is better warrior then Russ, and beat him? Because they swore an oath to the Emperor, and breaking such things are super uncool to Fenrisians? Because Dornian Heresy is just silly fanfiction, is built on weak-sauce reasoning (doesn't like psykers? really? need a better excuse then that :P), and doesn't respect certain elements of the fluff to make the alternate universe it is proposing possible? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2393258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 It isn't a question of Russ as he is now. Its a "what if" scenario. A "If things had happened differently" and it is fairly internally consistent. I can understand people not liking the idea of their beloved Chapters falling to Chaos but as for weaksauce reasoning...the whole "Horus is possessed by Chaos,but the greatest Psyker in in the universe somehow managed to not notice it happening to his own Son" and you seem to think that is perfectly reasonable and rational. Almost everyone in the Imperium fears or hates and distrusts Psykers,why is it so unbelievable that a Primarch would feel the same way. When you read it,it shows that Russ initially was trying to save the Emperor from danger,from the corruption of the Psykers of the Thousand Sons. Then when it came time to destroy Prospero, the Thousand Son's psyker abilities were proving too much for the Wolves (This is about the only part I found unlikely,as we Wolves have no trouble ripping up the Psykers) and Russ called for aid to save his Wolves. The Emperor didn't respond,didn't help.....But Khorne did. And that is why they fell to Khorne. With good intentions the entire way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2393362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 If they had no problem burning Prospero when Magnus was in bed with Chaos doing sorcery, I don't see why they would have trouble when he wasn't. And as you say, I don't think they'd have trouble in the first place . Again, I think it's weak sauce, and I don't really think a enough thought was put into it by the author - he just wanted to say "Ooooh, for this, Space Wolves = Khorne." Which is fine in principal, but I get the sense the author just really wanted to reverse Magnus and Russ' circumstances from the real fluff and the end result was something that just didn't make any sense to me. As for the Emprah not noticing Horus going Chaos, well, they were on the other side of the galaxy from each other when it was happening. If the Emperor knew exactly what was going on with his sons at all times, he wouldn't have had to go looking for them. I don't think he's that omnipotent. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200710-khornate-wolves/#findComment-2393402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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