Hear da Lamentation Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 This cam eup in a recent game and the other player didn't agree, so I wanted to try and get some confirmation. The question concerned a psychic power the eldar have which gives the effect of a heavy flamer (it is from a Warlock, Im afraid I cant remember the name.) It doesnt require a psychic test to be done, but does describe it as "psychic energy". To be it is clear that if a unit is hit with this, and they have a WTT in the pack, then this would give a 5+ chance of cancelling the effects of the flamer-power. The other player claimed it specificall did not list it as a shooting attack etc etc. What are your feelings? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Sorry, but I would say it cancels. If the power is described as a psychic power, it should be canceled by the WTT regardless if the model needs to take a test to use it or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2393859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrothgar Beastslayer Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 A little more info is usualy required in a post Alexander, you should provide an explanation instead of ye or no. To the OP i dont think it does because he doesnt take a psycic test so its not a psycic power. Much like the Deceivers powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2393872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Strictly, warlock powers are not psychic powers, so you would not be able to claim any negation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2393878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Strictly, warlock powers are not psychic powers, so you would not be able to claim any negation. What he said. Its a Warlock power and its described as such in the Eldar codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2394269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Actually, warlock powers ARE psychic powers. They are what used to be known as "minor psychic powers" and you certainly do get the roll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2394598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 After reading the page in the Eldar Codex. The key distinction for warlock powers is that the do not require psychic tests otherwise they are psychic powers and are effected by WTT and any other psychic negating wargear except for the Runic Staff (only negates after a successful psychic test). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2394620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taeken Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 After reading the page in the Eldar Codex. The key distinction for warlock powers is that the do not require psychic tests otherwise they are psychic powers and are effected by WTT and any other psychic negating wargear except for the Runic Staff (only negates after a successful psychic test). Thats what I came up with as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2394782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekiem Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Warlock powers are regular psychic powers (not minor ones) that do not require a roll to use. Since Destructor (the flamer power) affects the unit they get a 5+ save. The fact it is a shooting attack has no bearing on the situation. The eldar player was incorrect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2394859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Warlock powers are regular psychic powers (not minor ones) that do not require a roll to use. Since Destructor (the flamer power) affects the unit they get a 5+ save. The fact it is a shooting attack has no bearing on the situation. The eldar player was incorrect. what he said , the powers are psychic power , just because it has a rule saying you dont need to do the test doesnt make them not , so unlike runic weapon where a test is needed , the wolf tail works as all psyhic powers affected on the model is protected by it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2397442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekiem Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Right. But if the Eldar player used Fortune (reroll all saves; cast on their own units; Farseer power that requires a test) the wolf tooth necklace talisman would not help at all, while the runic weapon would. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/200944-wolf-tooth-talisman-question/#findComment-2399347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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