A Newbie's Ponderings and dilemmas! (Pic Heavy) - Updated!

[Jarakin]

Introducing myself!

 

Hi guys, I'll do a quick introduction to start off this WIP Blog/ramblings! I'm brand new to 40k and this forum (although I've been lurking for a few weeks!), although I'm quite familiar with the universe and games workshop in general, I've just never been a tabletop kinda guy until now! Have a small group of friends that play who pushed me into giving the tabletop game a try, 3 guys who have a few different sets of armies - Chaos, Orks, Space Wolves, Salamanders, IG and Tyranids. I've gone in halfs with my friend who has the Chaos, Wolves and 'nids for a new BA Army and basically went on a spending spree last month with the release of the new codex.

 

Ramblings on Modelling!:

 

These are the models we've picked up so far:

 

1x AoBR Boxset

1x Baal Predator

10x Tactical Marines

15x Assault Marines

10x DC

5x Honour Guard (Command Squad boxset)

5x Vanguard Vets (metal boxset)

2x Sanguinary Priests

Lemartes

Dante

 

We got rolling with the modelling one weekend and bashed through a few squads, but since then I've been doing bits and pieces myself - I haven't modelled any minis since I was 12-13 years old, so it's been quite a task. Haven't got around to painting yet (but have done some spray priming), and I'm quite frankly dreading it!!!

 

So far I have the TSM modelled and primed with Army Painter dragon red (bolter arm not glued to paint details on chest), have 10x ASM modelled with some BA paraphernalia and primed with same red (heads primed white on sprue ready for painting, jump packs primed red and not glued on yet), have 5x vanilla ASM that my friend had lying around primed chaos black, have the 10x DC modelled and primed chaos black, 5 with jump packs (which I bitterly regret!!) and 5 with back packs, then finally have the Sanguinary Novitiate from the HG modelled and primed red, but the other 4 HG are unmodelled as yet.

 

As for the metal models, so far have Dante, Lemartes and the 2 Sanguinary Priests modelled, but not primed. As yet the baal predator and VV set are untouched.

 

So far this post is a tl;dr wall of text, so going to throw in some pics now to keep you guys interested!!! :lol: Only have pics of the unprimed models so far, but I'll get more current pics up tonight when back home!

 

My workspace!:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v6Oqe3r-I/AAAAAAAABb4/LUmkVVl3RDg/s512/P1060444.JPG

 

Tactical Squad:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v6XBB8pTI/AAAAAAAABcE/UGRY5DgAbOA/s720/P1060446.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v6Zpv6VBI/AAAAAAAABcM/62_IwfpAQhs/s640/P1060447.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v6bUdMULI/AAAAAAAABcQ/lZ-QbqTXT7k/s640/P1060448.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v6mmsPS_I/AAAAAAAABc0/amtwjKaX38k/s512/Copy%20of%20P1060456.JPG

 

Sanguinary Novitiate:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v6fNjwLNI/AAAAAAAABcc/NEn9oQ8lLsM/s512/P1060450.JPG

 

Death Company:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v6ht5zVYI/AAAAAAAABcg/-KrDgsb-4g0/s640/P1060451.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v7BE5C36I/AAAAAAAABd8/MDJUhONDlWs/s640/P1060473.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v7JhO2R_I/AAAAAAAABeY/OJfFV8T1Nas/s640/P1060479.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v6qMCk6wI/AAAAAAAABc8/2DXwKHskVyI/s512/P1060457.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-v66av_YbI/AAAAAAAABdk/Ucez2OomrYM/s640/P1060467.JPG

 

Army list and modelling dilemmas:

 

I'm currently looking at 2 different lists for 1500 point games... one with Dante (attached to RAS) and HG (razorback), one with Librarian, Reclusiarch (or chappie) and DC (razorback). Now, my problem is this... We picked up Lemartes, he can't take his jump-pack off and to afford DC (and control them...), need to stick 'em in a Razorback, making Lemartes pretty much redundant. Now, my question is this; If I model Lemmy with a DC Backpack (magnetised along with his jet pack to get double my money), would it be cheesy to use him as a Reclusiarch? I very much doubt I'm going to be playing tournament level games, or games outside of our little group of friends any time soon, but at the same time I don't want to take the piss with 'counts as' stuff!

 

My next question is... What should I do with my JP DC? They're primed chaos black, but I'm considering either using my citadel spray gun to cover them in mechrite red/blood red or 2nd coat them with army painter dragon red to use them as RAS instead... thing is, out of my current 15 RAS models, 10 have a mish-mash of left-over DC bits, 5 of them are completely vanilla, so would 5 fully tooled up DC models look totally out of place - especially if they're a slightly different colour - I'm a little worried about using the army painter stuff as I found it came out pretty heavy and might ruin the detail? ...Or should I just leave them as awesome looking DC models that I'll possibly never use and sit in foam, look at them now and then, and say, "Damn, they're friggin' awesome.". Bit of a quandry!!

 

In Conclusion...

 

I've rambled enough for now - later on I'll put up my possible Army Lists in the other forum and link it in here. For now though, any sage advice would be most appreciated, I'll be updating this thread as I go along and make more progress. I'll get a few pics up of the further progress I've made tonight too.

 

Thanks for looking guys!

[bloodangel_123]

a couple of things

i love the sang noviate :o can u make me one ha ha

why do you have a flamer and a melta (do you have a guy to use so you can switch)

the sarge is also cool

nice job :D

[Jarakin]

a couple of things

i love the sang noviate :o can u make me one ha ha

why do you have a flamer and a melta (do you have a guy to use so you can switch)

the sarge is also cool

nice job :D

 

Thanks alot :) The sang novitiate was actually quite easy to do! He's standard from the command squad box other than the right shoulderpad which was a leftover from the DC kits - I think the pad actually adds alot to the model, I especially like it because of the dangling chalice! :D One thing I regret about him is not magnetising his backpack though... would have liked to make him interchangeable with a jump pack model... but I still think he looks the business!

 

Yeah, I made up a spare Tac Marine from a spare set of legs I had so the melta/flamer guys are interchangeable, plus I have 10 tac marines from the AoBR boxset as well and only plan on fielding 10 in my army list anyway. :)

 

Thanks for the feedback! :D

[Jarakin]

Update as promised!

 

Sang Priest

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqDj4EDPI/AAAAAAAABjc/LMdIV0gWO2Q/s512/DSC02544.JPG

 

Assault Squad

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqGsj2-ZI/AAAAAAAABhw/ktOdpq-ShXI/s720/DSC02548.JPG

 

Tactical Squad

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqIdm0A4I/AAAAAAAABjo/LYaaI8cQVF4/s512/DSC02550.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqJS15LqI/AAAAAAAABh8/va7KbFpid-8/s720/DSC02551.JPG

 

Death Company

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqKCFOvuI/AAAAAAAABjw/vya-FDU3nu8/s512/DSC02552.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqK-MyxdI/AAAAAAAABj4/Z6-ksI4dy60/s512/DSC02553.JPG

 

Metal Minis!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqLpNzJZI/AAAAAAAABiI/eFuZtB6Fa5M/s720/DSC02554.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqNsUQPCI/AAAAAAAABiQ/drcbqOLAW1k/s720/DSC02556.JPG

 

More pics in the album if you're interested, click me!

[jimbo1701]

Looking great so far - like the blend of vanilla and BA parts. Seeing someone starting outon a project like this makes me sad that I'd retrofitting my army with new parts rather than starting a new shiny one from scratch.

 

I'd go with the dragon red - that's what I'd do if I were starting from scratch for sure. Army painter stuff is fine if you keep a good distance when spraying, though I usually undercoat them first rather than direct spray.

 

Go with Lemartes as a reclusiarch - he's by far the most BA looking chaplain out there and so I'm sure most people will proxy him. If you want to make it more like he's supposed to be footslogging, add a few grenades to his JP straps to make it look like a grenade harness of sorts.

 

I think you should keep the JP DC to one side for now and see how you go after a few games - you may decide you want more assault troops or you may decide you want to run lemartes in more games.

 

Look forward to seeing more.

[Jarakin]

Looking great so far - like the blend of vanilla and BA parts. Seeing someone starting outon a project like this makes me sad that I'd retrofitting my army with new parts rather than starting a new shiny one from scratch.

 

I'd go with the dragon red - that's what I'd do if I were starting from scratch for sure. Army painter stuff is fine if you keep a good distance when spraying, though I usually undercoat them first rather than direct spray.

 

Go with Lemartes as a reclusiarch - he's by far the most BA looking chaplain out there and so I'm sure most people will proxy him. If you want to make it more like he's supposed to be footslogging, add a few grenades to his JP straps to make it look like a grenade harness of sorts.

 

I think you should keep the JP DC to one side for now and see how you go after a few games - you may decide you want more assault troops or you may decide you want to run lemartes in more games.

 

Look forward to seeing more.

 

Thanks for the encouragement! These boards have provided me with alot of great ideas and inspiration to push forward tackling this mammoth sized project - at times it feels a little daunting as a newbie (especially the painting), but the way I figure it, if I screw something up, it's not the end of the world, it might just cost me a little more cash! I've already lived and learned about the differences of GW and AP spray primers... my first test model with the Dragon Red was a little bit drowned - spraying from 20-25cm with thin coats (short bursts) is the way to go with AP I think! Thankfully I was sensible enough to use a basic test model that was replaceable!:

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-xqOxqeGJI/AAAAAAAABiY/1aaZKJdt0-M/s720/DSC02558.JPG

 

Yeah, the minis primed red in the pics above are all done with Dragon Red from AP, straight on with no undercoat though. I think to keep all my colours the same I'm going to spray the 5 ASM models that are primed chaos black with a few thin coats of dragon red too - have no cans left just now though as one of my cans failed. :( I've also got a tin of Strong tone quickshade (and anti-shine matt varnish) lined up after I base colour all the marines too, I'm not going to dip though, will splash it on for a bit more control. I really hope they turn out well!!!

 

I have to admit, I've always thought of myself much more of a gamer than a hobbyist, but I'm really enjoying creating this army, at times it has been a struggle and a little tedious (I hate mould lines!!!!), but I've jumped every hurdle so far and landed on my feet!

 

My next goals are to build up (and magnetise) the Baal Predator and also the remaining 4 Honour Guard models. Planning on either ordering some bits from Let the dice decide to do up the HG with or just ordering another DC kit and kitbashing up both the HG and another 5 ASM (my lists have 18-20 assault marines), I think by doing that it'll give me a bit more BA iconography to play with to make my Sanguinary priests look awesome too. After this, I'm going to order up another Baal Predator and 2 Razorbacks... Hell I think I'll order them up at the same time as the next DC kit.

 

Definitely going to order up an SG company banner from LTDD though as there is no way in hell I'll freehand a good looking company banner, the gods deemed fit to ordane me with more math-hammer aligned skills than artistic. :(

 

Currently I have absolutely no idea what I want to do with the Vanguard Veteran models. I just love the way they look, but going through army lists, the HG just beat the snot out of them pound for pound...

 

As for the JP DC, yeah, I think I'll leave them be for now and like you say perhaps use them with Lemartes some time, at least if nothing else it'll give me flexibility, especially if I start playing games larger than 1500 points! I'm definitely going to magnetise Lemmy with a JP and BP now so thanks for the advice, I'm happy he won't be a waste of a model - he looks great!

 

Ok - next update is going to be my Army Lists... watch this space. :P

[Vel'Cona]

Excellent thread here, for a "newbie" you have a pretty solid workspace! I'm actually jealous of all the room you have, and your drafting surfaces too. You have an organized way of putting your models together, though I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of finished paint scheme you'll have.

 

I have a hard time rationalizing the VV as well, since HG are more capable in a variety of roles and SG are better equipped. VV also punish you for attaching a character (of any kind) by not letting you Heroic Intervention if you bring along Dante or an SP. It's a real shame, too. I'll be keeping an eye here to see what sort of army lists you come up with! <_<

[Jarakin]

Excellent thread here, for a "newbie" you have a pretty solid workspace! I'm actually jealous of all the room you have, and your drafting surfaces too. You have an organized way of putting your models together, though I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of finished paint scheme you'll have.

 

I have a hard time rationalizing the VV as well, since HG are more capable in a variety of roles and SG are better equipped. VV also punish you for attaching a character (of any kind) by not letting you Heroic Intervention if you bring along Dante or an SP. It's a real shame, too. I'll be keeping an eye here to see what sort of army lists you come up with!

 

Thanks Yeah, thankfully I have a very patient and lenient wife, who's letting me annex the dining table for constructing my nefarious army which I'm planning to take over the world with! The cutting mat has been a real life-saver though, originally I was doing everything on a bit of cardboard and it was really annoying as I had to be really careful I didn't go through to the table (my life would have ended if I had!!), so hopped on ebay, found an A3 self-healing cutting mat that came with a 'free' x-acto (style) knife and blades kit for £7 all in... bargain! The knife kit actually came with my most-loved blade, it's a really small, semi-cut away blade which is perfect for getting rid of mold lines in awkward places!

 

Yeah, my sentiments exactly about the VV... I'm of 2 minds as to what to do with them, maybe sell them on on ebay, or just paint them up and use them as counts-as models for something else as I love their poses (I'll probably do the latter tbh!) - that being said, I really wish the model with a plasma gun came as a detached arm!!!!

[Jarakin]

New update... Army Lists!!!

 

Ok, here we go guys, my Army Lists as promised. I'm not specifically tailoring my lists to fight against anyone in particular, but it's quite likely I'll be facing units stacked in buildings - which I think I need to account for by using some flamey stuff (but haven't included any in the list for reasons I'm not really sure of!!!). Anyway, please pick the lists apart and let me know what you think - be as harsh as you like (remaining constructive), as I want to build a strong army - but at the same time remember I'm in it for fun with my mates, not to create some insane leafblower type army!

 

Honour Guard list!

 

Dante (attached to RAS Alpha or Beta) - 225 pts

Honour Guard, 1x Emperor's Champion, 1x Sanguinary Novitiate, 1x Chapter Banner, 2xPW/BP mounted in a Razorback w/ Searchlight - 251 pts

 

2x Sanguinary Priests w/ Jump Packs (Attached to 2 RAS squads below) - 150 pts

 

RAS Alpha - 10x JP Marines, 1x Melta Gun, Sgt. w/ PF/BP - 225 pts

RAS Beta - 8x JP Marines, Sgt. w/ PW/BP + Melta Bombs - 174 pts

 

TSM Charlie - 10x Marines split into 2 Combat Squads: - 245 pts

CS Delta - 1x Missile Launcher, 4x Standard Bolter Marines

CS Echo - 1x Melta Gun, 1x Sgt. w/ PW/BP - Mounted in Razorback

 

2x Baal Predators w/ TLAC - 230 pts

 

TOTAL: 1500 points

 

Next up - Death Company List!

 

Librarian w/ (tentatively) Fear of the Darkness + Shackle Soul (attached to CS Echo below)- 100 pts

Reclusiarch (Attached to DC) - 130 pts

 

2x Sanguinary Priests w/ Jump Packs (Attached to RAS squads below) - 150 pts

 

RAS Alpha - 10x JP Marines, 1x Melta Gun, Sgt. w/ PF/BP - 225 pts

RAS Beta - 10x JP Marines, 1x Melta Gun, Sgt. w/ PW/BP + Melta Bombs - 220 pts

 

DC - 5x DC in Razorback, 3x PW/BP, 2x CCW/BP - 200 pts

 

TSM Charlie - 10x Marines split into 2 Combat Squads: - 245 pts

CS Delta - 1x Missile Launcher, 4x Standard Bolter Marines

CS Echo - 1x Melta Gun, 1x Sgt. w/ PW/BP - Mounted in Razorback

 

2x Baal Predators w/ TLAC - 230 pts

 

TOTAL: 1500 points

 

The DC list I've been tweaking all afternoon and feel it could do with some more, the basis of what I've done is that I wanted to fit the DC with an SP and Reclusiarch in a Razorback as my hammer unit, I've taken the points from the PF/BP DC and pumped them into RAS Beta, bumping them up to 10 men and adding a melta.

 

To explain the purpose of the TSM combat squads - Delta is for objective sitting at the back of a map, spamming Missiles randomly, Echo is for mobile objective sitting.

 

I like the look of the lists, but kinda worry about their viability vs. vehicles... I currently only have 1 baal predator and no razorbacks, but I intend to order up enough to cover my list very shortly, but this will of course be influenced by any ideas you guys have, so any advice would be muchly appreciated!

 

Ok, phew, that was alot of tweaking!!!! Here's a link to my Army List thread if you'd rather keep C&C of my list over on that forum: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=201423

 

Cheers guys!

[Jarakin]

Made up another wee list, this time with HG/SG, looks quite good I think, again C&C very very welcome. :)

 

Honour and Sanguinary Guard list!

 

:)

Dante (attached to RAS Alpha or Beta) - 225 pts

Honour Guard, 1x Emperor's Champion, 1x Sanguinary Novitiate, 1x Chapter Banner, 1xPW/BP mounted in a Razorback - 235 pts

 

:D

2x Sanguinary Priests w/ Jump Packs (Attached to 2 RAS squads below) - 150 pts

 

:lol:

Sanguinary Guard - 200 pts

 

RAS Alpha - 10x JP Marines, 1x Melta Gun, Sgt. w/ PF/BP + Melta Bombs - 230 pts

 

TSM Beta- 10x Marines split into 2 Combat Squads: - 230 pts

CS Charlie - 1x Missile Launcher, 4x Standard Bolter Marines

CS Delta - 1x Melta Gun, 4x Bolter Marines- Mounted in Razorback

 

:D

2x Baal Predators w/ TLAC - 230 pts

 

TOTAL: 1500 points

[Jarakin]

Small update - I've been working on the ASM Squad heads... they're pretty much the first things I've ever painted so it's been alot of trial and error. Just a small update, so straight to the pics:

 

Initial Coat:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S-8xrgOUzNI/AAAAAAAABk0/W9zoC3BaZt8/s640/P1060761.JPG

 

After Washes/finishing touches:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S_ABnAp7MqI/AAAAAAAABlE/iDePvvxPAIs/s640/P1060766.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S_ABnmn5qsI/AAAAAAAABlI/o7ipEfFa9PQ/s640/P1060773.JPG

 

Overall I'm pretty happy with the colour - it took alot of fiddling to get something I was happy with, but I finally settled with a 1:2:2 mix of Sunburst Yellow/Iyanden Darksun/Skull White. I did some highlighting on one of the heads that I had done a full badab black wash on, and it didn't turn out so great so I stuck with gryphon sepia for the yellow areas and only used the badab black on the grille/visor/general silvery bits.

 

Being my first foray into painting, I'd love some feedback and c&c. Thanks guys. :D

 

Oh quick question too - when glueing these heads to the primed bodies, should I still use plastic cement, or just super glue? Thanks!

[jimbo1701]

Hi,

 

All those lists look sound with a core of pretty much the same units so I'd experiment with using a different one every time for variety and then combine them in to a larger list when you move up to the 2000pt level.

 

Yellow is a bugger to paint at the best of times so congrats on getting a nice finish. Badab black over yellow is a receipe for disaster in my experience as it looks like you found out. Sepia or a watered down colour such as dark flesh in the recesses is much better. Can't really make out the shading on the helmets in the pics but on the silver areas it looks good. Try mixing in some white to your yellow mix and highlighting the edges. Also, with the eyes a darker green starting colour (just mix a dot of black into your green if you don't have one) worked up to the lighter colour at the front with the same white dot at the back would look a bit better. Great work if this is your first time painting though.

 

As for the glue, plastic glue is best but apply it in small amounts as if you get it on say the chest it will immediately smudge the paint and melt the details. Best applied to the underside of the helmet in fact.

[SGK]

Hi Jarakin, looking pretty good so far, a fine attemot at yellowa colour i personally loath painting.

your lists look solid, though I would move the melta bombs from Alphas' sarge to Betas' sarge as Alpha already can beal with vehicles courtesy of his fist

[Jarakin]

Hi,

 

All those lists look sound with a core of pretty much the same units so I'd experiment with using a different one every time for variety and then combine them in to a larger list when you move up to the 2000pt level.

 

Yellow is a bugger to paint at the best of times so congrats on getting a nice finish. Badab black over yellow is a receipe for disaster in my experience as it looks like you found out. Sepia or a watered down colour such as dark flesh in the recesses is much better. Can't really make out the shading on the helmets in the pics but on the silver areas it looks good. Try mixing in some white to your yellow mix and highlighting the edges. Also, with the eyes a darker green starting colour (just mix a dot of black into your green if you don't have one) worked up to the lighter colour at the front with the same white dot at the back would look a bit better. Great work if this is your first time painting though.

 

As for the glue, plastic glue is best but apply it in small amounts as if you get it on say the chest it will immediately smudge the paint and melt the details. Best applied to the underside of the helmet in fact.

 

Thanks, yeah, that's a good plan. As I said before, everything I've done so far is pure theory, it'll be good to do some realworld testing and see which units fare the best!

 

Thanks for the comment on the yellow, glad you think it looks ok - I was quite worried about it as in an initial test, I had planned on doing an Iyanden Darksun basecoat with Sunburst Yellow layered on top, but found that it just wouldn't cover at all on top of the darksun! Panicked about it a little, then experimented mixing some colours which achieved the final result seen. I think the heads need another wash of Sepia to get a bit more shading in the edges, and I think I will take your advice on the eye lenses as I'm not that happy with the brightness of the green either (I only have scorpion green, so popping some black in it is a great idea, thanks!).

 

I'll try and get some better pictures up soon to show the shading, and thanks for the glue tips! :)

 

Hi Jarakin, looking pretty good so far, a fine attemot at yellowa colour i personally loath painting.

your lists look solid, though I would move the melta bombs from Alphas' sarge to Betas' sarge as Alpha already can beal with vehicles courtesy of his fist

 

Thanks alot for the comments. Yeah, good idea on the MBs for the Assault Sarge, hadn't thought that one through properly I don't think - I was aiming for Tank buster squad and Infantry buster squad, but flexibility in both is always a good idea!

[daboarder]

nice work mate, consider slapping a baal red wash on the reds to add a little defenition to them and make the details stound out a bit more.

[Jarakin]

nice work mate, consider slapping a baal red wash on the reds to add a little defenition to them and make the details stound out a bit more.

 

Thanks mate, yeah might just do that with the baal red, have been planning on using Dark Quickshade on my rank and file for shading also - think the baal red wash would complement that?

[Jarakin]

Ok, just finished magnetising my first Baal Pred (1 more baal and 2 Razorbacks on order at the moment which are due for the same treatment), so without further ado, here's how it turned out:

 

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S_lt0dfYjmI/AAAAAAAABmk/9l2mVdgP08Y/P1070091.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S_lt1KSAXQI/AAAAAAAABmo/AHcI2lR5rmw/P1070092.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S_lt1-baNfI/AAAAAAAABms/gp6Yav3SeyU/P1070093.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SD4XYHgTJgU/S_lt5sGYZ8I/AAAAAAAABnA/sFG2rkUjttQ/P1070098.JPG

 

Would love some c&c as always, will be getting in some more AP Dragon Red spray primer soon and a bunch of other paints for the troops, so will get more WIP pics up asap. :huh:

[Ani]

Out of curiosity, what size magnets did you use for the Baal?

[IronKobra]

That Baal is really well done!

[Jarakin]

Out of curiosity, what size magnets did you use for the Baal?

 

Hi mate, mostly all 4mm x 1mm, but also used 3mm x 1mm for the bustle as that was the size of the holes. Everything is magnetised pretty well, I originally only had magnets on the inside of the tank for the sponsons, but found the pull wasn't quite strong enough, so put one on the outside and now it holds perfectly.

 

That Baal is really well done!

 

Thanks alot mate! ;)

[Jarakin]

Hey guys, well I've mostly finished my first test marine, I'm fairly happy with the result considering it's the first mini I've ever painted. It has taken me a stupidly long time to paint this guy as I've been taking my time, probably spent 4ish hours on it but ah well, even though it's basic, it's the first I've ever painted! It's not totally finished yet either as I'm going to whack a layer of quickshade dark tone on him (splashed on), but I'm waiting until I pick up some turps first though.

 

Not totally sure what to do with shading the helmet though... it's had a Gryphonne Sepia wash and I cleaned it up with a fresh layer of paint afterwards leaving the pooled wash in the recesses, but it hasn't quite done the job. Not sure what I should do next with it... I won't be applying quickshade to the helmet though I don't think, I'd be worried that it'd make the yellow far too dark...

 

So, what do you think guys? Would love some C&C and advice! Cheers guys!

 

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[Rybnick]

I'm just finishing up my first ASM squads as well and I used the quickshade on the entire mini (although I painted my helmets red as I dislike yellow) and I'm very happy with how the shader + matte varnish turned out. I think it would work equally well on the yellow helms. I used the middle strength of quickshade, I think it was called Strong. Also where did you get those bases they look similar to the ones I purchased from Back2Basics for my Angels Encarmine, Round Ruin they were called. I'm excited to see how you paint your bases compaired to how I went with mine. :)

 

Great looking mini though man and I'm loving the look of that Baal. I wish I'd taken the time to magnetize more of the pieces on mine. Keep up the great work and keep the pictures coming too!

[Jarakin]

I'm just finishing up my first ASM squads as well and I used the quickshade on the entire mini (although I painted my helmets red as I dislike yellow) and I'm very happy with how the shader + matte varnish turned out. I think it would work equally well on the yellow helms. I used the middle strength of quickshade, I think it was called Strong. Also where did you get those bases they look similar to the ones I purchased from Back2Basics for my Angels Encarmine, Round Ruin they were called. I'm excited to see how you paint your bases compaired to how I went with mine. :P

 

Great looking mini though man and I'm loving the look of that Baal. I wish I'd taken the time to magnetize more of the pieces on mine. Keep up the great work and keep the pictures coming too!

 

Yeah, the quickshade I've got is the darkest, so not sure how that'll do on the yellow... might muddy it a bit too much! Definitely works fine on red though as I've seen quite a few other's results! Yeah, I wasn't too enamoured with yellow helms when I first saw them before I started and thought about doing them red just like you (god damn it'd be alot easier too!), but I thought screwit and went with the flow and I'm happy with the results - this mini was fully built before painting, so the head hasn't had as much work as the ones on the sprue in my earlier posts due to the fact it's alot more awkward to paint! I'd love to see how yours turn out too, got a WIP thread yourself at all mate? :)

 

The bases are from dark arts minis, but were donated by my partner in crime, they do a few other fairly cool themes too - here's the link to them: http://www.darkartstore.darkartminiatures....5mm-Rocky-bases

 

Yeah, that Baal took me 2-3 nights of building as I was experimenting with the magnets, very happy with the result though!! Hope the paintjob I give it does the hard work I put into magnetising it justice though, we'll see! The rest should be alot easier to magnetise now that I've done it the once though, have another Baal and 2 Razorbacks on their way just now. Anyway, thanks for the kind words mate, means alot! :)

[IronKobra]

I'll second DarkArt. I got one of their rocky display bases for Mephiston...Its fantastic!

[Rybnick]

One reason I felt justified in painting my ASM helms red was because of pg80 in the codex where it shows an Angels Encarmine ASM with a red helm so I figured if it was good enough for GW (and got me out of painting and fielding yellow headed marines :D ) then it was good enough for me! I picked Angels Encarmine because I liked their flavor (being a dieing chapter and all w/ so many falling to the flaw and joining the DC) and the fact that their DC and Sang Guard are white instead of black.

 

I do have plans to get some pictures posted of my painting/hobbying endeavours so far, I'll post them in my blog (linked in my sig now!) asap. I have a few on my camera just need to sign up for some sort of picture hosting site to post them here.

 

I'm not so sure that the darker shade wouldn't look good on the yellow heads, you could always paint up an extra head yellow and test the shade out on it. I will warn you though don't judge the shader until you put the matte varnish on. It's incredibly shiny before the varnish is applied, and my little plastic marines looked rather unintimidating when they were so bright. Afterwards though they looked exactly like I wanted them too.