Knights Of Russ

[Alba]

Hi All,

 

I am very very new to this forum, but an old school 40k Player, I last played around 2nd Ed and have been away for far too long. The last time I painted a model was about 12 years ago A group of friends an me have recently started collecting again and I am now just starting to paint the first of my troops. I have a problem though:

 

I am horribly bad at using the colour RED! It always looks crap, it either looks too thin, or too thick, you can see the brush strokes and whatever colour was behind it always shows through. Does anyone have any ideas?

 

Also please let me know what you think of the colour scheme I have gone for, I am trying to make them seem gritty and as if they have really been through the wars. I apologise for the quality of the pictures, I couldn't be bothered getting my camera from the other room, my phone and the lighting doesn't really do the model much justice but it gives you a rough idea

 

All comments, ideas and thoughts are very very welcome!

 

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Ta again!

[Shieldwall]

I am horribly bad at using the colour RED! It always looks crap, it either looks too thin, or too thick, you can see the brush strokes and whatever colour was behind it always shows through. Does anyone have any ideas?

 

There never is a colour that looks too thin, if so there are just too few layers of it. ;]

 

Seriously, try out 5 to 6 layers of thinned down red and you won't have much trouble. You could also give the area a brown basecoat, thus making it easier for the red to cover well.

 

As for the brushstrokes, either, as you said, the colour might be applied too thick, or you just don't give the layer underneath enough time to dry.

When applying the next layer, the water will soften up the pigments underneath,eventually tearing them off= Brushstrokes. Red pigments can be especially tricky.

 

Take your time (and maybe a hairdrier), small amounts of paint on the bruh and enjoy the process.

[CainTheHunter]

Mechrite red foundation paint for basecoat will make wonders even with a black primer. And then Blood red goes over very smoothly - I sometimes add a bit of mix with Blazing Orange as well. But I only use red on one shoulder pad and knee pads on my Blood/Swift Claws. Can't imagine painting red on big amounts - that's just as difficult as painting yellow, white and actually black...

 

And welcome to the Fang!

[Wolf Lord Mjolnir]

Here are some tips for red:

- Add about half a brush worths of water to every three drops of paint (roughly)

- Use mechrite red as a base - it is very nice

- If needed use Devlan mud to shade the recesses of the red

- Paint Blood Red (remember to add a little water as mentioned above) over mechrite leaving the devlan mud showing in recesses. You may need one, two or three coats of blood red

- Highlight with Blazing orange

- Extreme highlight with vomit brown

- Give it all one or two coats of Baal red wash

 

I am using this for my Blood Angels army and it is looking nice (I base my Blood Angels with Army Painter's Dragon red spray but mechrite red is close to this)

 

I like the armour colour and the kit bashing - well done.

 

Hope the tips above help - getting a good red is worth taking a little time over.

[jester262]

Since everyone gave you good tips for rd all I have to say is welcome to the fang

[Alba]

Thanks for the advice all, i'll pick up some of that mechrite first chance I get. I'll post the results of it on the forum. Also big thanks for the welcome, can't wait to get stuck in about things :)

[Alba]

So, here is one of the models that i'm working on. Going to use him as a Grey Hunter, thought it might be good to show the Wolf Standard in a unit. Need to pick up some more paints hence the random unpainted bits, and yeah, I only just noticed the bloody great big mold line on the standard pole, oh well...

 

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As always, comments and advice are welcome ;)

[Adarul Greystalker]

I really like the grey areas with black scuffs/blemishes. Looks great.

 

The main thing that I do differently is to use an off-white like bleached bone more than the bright skull white on the bone/teeth/claw elements, as well as parchment such as on purity seals. A brown undercoat with bleached bone drybrushed over and skull white highlights looks great on the wolf skulls.

 

The pelts look good and the only thing that I would suggest for them is to try some simple patterns on some of them. Drybrush black over the top or bottom half of a brown or grey pelt and see what you think. White over grey also works very well.

[molsonbeagle]

Since nobody else has complimented you on your style I will. I love the knight look. I'm not sure its terribly 'wolfy' as most wolves are more viking style than knight, but I think they look great. Then again, I'm a big fan of GKs as well. Aside from that, take everybody elses advice, and welcome!

[Alba]

Thanks for the feedback so far and the compliments ;)

 

I am focusing on the "honour" system that the wolves hold so dear to them. I am still writing the back story to the Knights however once I have that i'll get it posted. Basically the idea is that they are a company that was thought lost in the warp thousands of years ago, the have since returned to normal space and realised that time has passed and that they cannot be "folded" back into the chapter, so have gone of on a quest (with the chapters blessing) to help rid the Imperium of their foes.

 

As the wolves do not have any successor chapters and I was reading that there is a lot of give and take to make your own company. From a fluff point of view if any other chapter or imperial force met them they would simply take them for a Wolves company they had not met yet. The wolves keep to themselves a lot and don't tell the Imperium about all their dealings (Thunderwolf Cavalry etc) so this seems quite plausible to me.

 

I was also thinking of going down a fluff path of the company taking its recruits from certain tribes on Fenris that have tried to "master themselves" and adopted a "Knightly" yet still "Wolfy" lifestyle however they still succumb to the feral rage of combat now and again :)

 

 

I have now completed a whole 6 models! I got a hold of some bronze and bleached bone paint and have finished the heraldry on the armour. I am now looking at some highlighting and dry brushing. I'll take some more piccys tomorrow morning and get them posted up. Coming soon will be a few Razorbacks, Landspeeder and possibly my Wolf Guard squad

[Requiem of the Wolf]

Thanks for the feedback so far and the compliments :)

 

I am focusing on the "honour" system that the wolves hold so dear to them. I am still writing the back story to the Knights however once I have that i'll get it posted. Basically the idea is that they are a company that was thought lost in the warp thousands of years ago, the have since returned to normal space and realised that time has passed and that they cannot be "folded" back into the chapter, so have gone of on a quest (with the chapters blessing) to help rid the Imperium of their foes.

 

As the wolves do not have any successor chapters and I was reading that there is a lot of give and take to make your own company. From a fluff point of view if any other chapter or imperial force met them they would simply take them for a Wolves company they had not met yet. The wolves keep to themselves a lot and don't tell the Imperium about all their dealings (Thunderwolf Cavalry etc) so this seems quite plausible to me.

 

I was also thinking of going down a fluff path of the company taking its recruits from certain tribes on Fenris that have tried to "master themselves" and adopted a "Knightly" yet still "Wolfy" lifestyle however they still succumb to the feral rage of combat now and again :)

 

 

I have now completed a whole 6 models! I got a hold of some bronze and bleached bone paint and have finished the heraldry on the armour. I am now looking at some highlighting and dry brushing. I'll take some more piccys tomorrow morning and get them posted up. Coming soon will be a few Razorbacks, Landspeeder and possibly my Wolf Guard squad

Sounds awesome Brother...and I do have to admit I like the style of appearance.

[Alba]

As promised here is my first "almost" finished squad of Grey Hunters and a Wolf Guard. Still some odds and sods to touch up but almost there.

 

These are the first models i've painted in an age and i'm quite happy with them :(

 

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As always comments and suggestions are very very welcome!!

[Shieldwall]

I really dig the look of those chainswords, nicely done.

 

I'd even go for some more contrasting colours on the armour, some more red or yellow elements on the shoulderpads for example.

Got to try out that foundation paints yet?

 

I'd also try and dilute your wash a little more, applying it stepwise onto the parties of the miniature. Flooding the entire piece creates puddles, which leave dark spots on the flat areas after drying. You can use a dry brush to soak off excess wash before it dries, thus leaving it mostly in the recesses. You'll achieve a much more three-dimensional efect that way.

 

Any plans on how you gonna do the bases yet?