'Ard Boyz Sportsamnship

[the jeske]

Like being a professional con-artist? Or a slight-of-hand dealer on the street?

 

Most tournaments dont have a big payout, and certainly nothing you could live off of. Mostly its store credit, or minis.

I work for the customs so maybe am warped . I understand a guy who smugles stuff for a living and it good at it . It is his life. I dont support it , but I do understand it . What I dont understand is students or tourists who come to moscow for a few days and still try to smugle out stuff . It both waste my time [raports , I have to interogate them , they play stupid trying to tell me that they arrive to Russia with it etc] and theirs [they miss the train/plane ] .

 

To make it more clear and w40k related. I would understand if someone was cheating , because he could get a lot of money out of it [foreing guy wants to get a name for his pain studio and sends out his friends to UK GD and some other events like that] , but cheating to win a single game , while at the same time you have a huge chance that it will end up with a DQ[at best] and probably a bann [normaly] , makes no sense to me.

 

It's a real face to face interaction and the same rules for decency should always apply.

have you seen what happens , if pro teams start to cheat in games like starcraft ? it practicly ends your life in the gaming comunity , even worse then a sports man get for geting DQ[because not all of the DQs are for life].

[winternight]

Not sure if anyone has posted this already or not, however it is worth a read.

 

http://whiskey40k.blogspot.com/2010/05/soc...-wargaming.html

[Stormbrow II]

Posted by none other than me on Page 2 of this very thread. Great minds think alike. :down:

[Narceron]

Talking about broken lists. I saw a guy playing blood angels.

He had 5 Land raiders with 5 assault squads, no jump packs

2 predators

Mephiston

Not sure if he had a vindicator also.

 

 

I think thats pretty much all BA armies...the local guy here uses Dante and sangies instead, but takes full advantage of the reduced cost raiders...I love the BA codex for its variability, its a shame we see the same list over and over. I had to go with space wolves because the BA are just too overpowered to even be fun IMHO.

[Decoy]

That, and it seems that every army around uses almost half of the entire Chapter's available Vindicators. (2-3). Otherwise, on target, Narceron.

[commander alexander]

This whole thread has snow-balled out of control. It was about how people where having a serious lack of sportsmanship, or general manners and decency. It was not about how people built their lists, or anything along those lines. I was wanting to see if anyone else had similar problems, or thought that a solution (in hard rules) could possibly be made for future 'Ard Boyz. Obviously people do not want to talk about the topic of the thread, so it should be no more.

[Grey Mage]

You cannot legislate morality. You cannot enforce impecable manners and good will.

 

You can encourage it, but short of playing automatons I dont think theres a feasable way to guarantee everyone will be friendly.

 

You can keep them from cheating though, and you can set a good example.

[army310]

some thing i just saw at an ard boyz list wolf claw with a thunder hammer. why is that bad because you can use the rule reroll to hit or wound. so he would use his attacks with the thunder hammer and beause he had a wolf claw he would pick reroll hit or wound. that hard core if you ask me.

[TiguriusX]

some thing i just saw at an ard boyz list wolf claw with a thunder hammer. why is that bad because you can use the rule reroll to hit or wound. so he would use his attacks with the thunder hammer and beause he had a wolf claw he would pick reroll hit or wound. that hard core if you ask me.

 

That is hard core cheating. Rules don't allow you to mix and match 2 special weapon rules.

 

I know I sound like a grumpy old man with my opinions but if something like this occurs there are 2 people to blame

-opponent for cheating

-victim for not defending their rights

 

Educate yourself...be vocal...tyrants and dictators succeed due to ignorance and lack of action against them

 

Look at p.42 next time you see this guy and let him know he can only use 1 special weapon if he is wielding two of them

[Hfran Morkai]

I for one am glad that you can't enforce morals or sportsmanship, for those qualities are what determine whether I enjoy playing an opponent or not.

[breng77]

I guess I must be in the minority, in that I have never had a game against someone I would consider a bad sport, and have only seen 1 or 2 in my time a tournaments. However, one thing I must say is that knowing the rules yourself can change a lot of what I am hearing about on here as far as bad sportsmanship. If you know your opponent is breaking/or maybe stretching a rule get a judge, (it also helps to bring your rulebook b/c in some places even the judges are not all that knowledgeable, and showing them the rule, may help.) That said, people who are on here complaining about hard lists at a tournament need to get over it. That is just to be expected, unless the tournament is comped many people will run the best list they can make.