Jakobus Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Just rereading various rules, and am I right in this that no Close Combat weapons, even Powerfists and Thunder Hammer have no AP? And that these weapons actually only allow you to ignore Armour Saves, Thus thus they are AP- and incur to -1 on the Vehicle Damage Table What this means to me is that unless the vehicle is open topped you will never achieve the Destroyed - Explodes! result from an assault, is this right or am I missing something Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/201852-vechile-damage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekiem Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 You are incorrect. CC Weapons do not use AP. They either allow an armor save or they do not. Thus they do not have AP - or 1 or anything so do not get a bonus or penalty on the dmg chart. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/201852-vechile-damage/#findComment-2404638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Yeah, the weapon as to actually have 'AP: -' in its profile to take the negative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/201852-vechile-damage/#findComment-2404718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Wunless the vehicle is open topped you will never achieve the Destroyed - Explodes! result from an assault, is this right or am I missing something You say that as if you were disappointed by it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/201852-vechile-damage/#findComment-2404764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Close Combat weapons do not have an AP, and therefore cannot be AP- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/201852-vechile-damage/#findComment-2405090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz1858 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 AP is only used in the shooting phase Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/201852-vechile-damage/#findComment-2405103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Just throwing more fuel on the fire; they don't have AP - in their profile, so they are not AP -. AP only comes up in the Shooting Phase, and your CC weapons are used in the Assault Phase. I love exploding Rhinos with krak grenades. :) And Power Fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/201852-vechile-damage/#findComment-2405162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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