Lars Skywolf Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Hi Im new to this place and I want to ask a question. Basicly the name says it all, Im poor and on the 27th is my bday. In the past ive made a barely legal force comprimising of a wolf lord,10 man squad of grey hunters and a 9 man pack of blood claws (lord and claws go togeather in the squad). Im at the moment thinking of adding the AOBL box set t the army giving me and extra troops choice, and filling out my elites (termies, the dreadnaught and the commander will be used as a lone wolf (change the weapon options to i dunno yet)). Ive only brought 2 of the SW packs, no tanks or upgrade frames so is it enough, Ive tried conversion work and every time i have Didnt go too well like not well at all. If anybody else has done this and succeeded or if you have any real advice on it (you can bet your armies I dont wanna fork out for lots of Sw packs or upgrade frames (Gunna buy the Ork codex well )) Can you please reply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 its difficult to wolf up the AOBR marines because they are static models rahter than seperate heads, torsos, legs arms etc AOBR is 50 notes so why not by a battleforce instead and increase the number of troops which id say would be more useful Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
army310 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 yes with heads but i think the arms are real hard to convert but i got so much stuff inthe space wolf box sst you sould be able to make it work just add a wolf tail on some and you should be ok. and paint gray Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 a quick search on ebay shows you can get the AOBR terminators for a tenner buy now and the dreadnought for the same that gives you thirty sheets for wolfy goodness Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 If you have lots of Wolf Tails and such lying around then slapping them onto the AoBR stuff should be enough to make them look fine. The only thing is that you might be better served by filing off the Tactical symbols and overtly Codex stuff on them. A file and green stuff would be a good buy to make your own pelts and cover to wolf them up too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 If you have lots of Wolf Tails and such lying around then slapping them onto the AoBR stuff should be enough to make them look fine. The only thing is that you might be better served by filing off the Tactical symbols and overtly Codex stuff on them. A file and green stuff would be a good buy to make your own pelts and cover to wolf them up too. What I did was take a kitchen knife and chop off the heads,and carved off the tactical symbols. throw some wolf tails,knives,things like that. Switch the legs around a bit and that did it..I also made sure to have every one of my Wolves helmetless,and that has done a lot to ensuring their Wolfiness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 What I did was take a kitchen knife and chop off the heads,and carved off the tactical symbols. throw some wolf tails,knives,things like that. Switch the legs around a bit and that did it..I also made sure to have every one of my Wolves helmetless,and that has done a lot to ensuring their Wolfiness. Hooray for Poorhammer! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Skywolf Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 Wow knew I would get a reply or 2 but not that quickly blimey! Ok then: Post 1: I need the 40k rulebook and was thinking of using the ork amy as well. Post 2: Probably right there but like everybody says they kinda stick out like a sore thumb if you do that plus I need to replace the missile launcher with a bolter or flamer/melta/plas gun so that was my predicament. Post 3: You got a point there but i want the whole army t be added and have the marines and orks and the ruleboook as well and im kinda bad with money (I am truely skint 2/3 of the year) and when i get it it kinda dont go in ebay it goes in the shop and i get summin. But other than those points I could I spose. Post 4: You Make a good point but I didnt know they had those silly lil Arrows on them. Are the Sholder pads the remvable verity (I.E. Not conected to the arms themselves) and I Probably will get greenstuff like you said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Wow knew I would get a reply or 2 but not that quickly blimey! Ok then: Post 1: I need the 40k rulebook and was thinking of using the ork amy as well. Post 2: Probably right there but like everybody says they kinda stick out like a sore thumb if you do that plus I need to replace the missile launcher with a bolter or flamer/melta/plas gun so that was my predicament. Post 3: You got a point there but i want the whole army t be added and have the marines and orks and the ruleboook as well and im kinda bad with money (I am truely skint 2/3 of the year) and when i get it it kinda dont go in ebay it goes in the shop and i get summin. But other than those points I could I spose. Post 4: You Make a good point but I didnt know they had those silly lil Arrows on them. Are the Sholder pads the remvable verity (I.E. Not conected to the arms themselves) and I Probably will get greenstuff like you said. No the heads are attached,the shoulders with the tactical symbol are attached. However it takes all of a minute per to carve it off and have it lay smooth. Very easy to do. Head takes a bit longer to carve it out,and be careful you don't do what I did on my ML guy and just slide it all off,becaue then you have to greenstuff a caul to protect the back of his head and its a pain in the arse. Also splitting up the plain shoulder pads from AoBR with the wolfy shoulderpads is another good way to go for individualizing. As for the poorhammer comment...when you are a father of four trying to build an army up to start playing,you damn well learn how to squeeze every last dollar out of what you have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 The shoulder pads aren't removable so you'll have to chop and change. A Stanley blade or a file will allow you to scrape or file off the offending arrows. The Terminators and Dread will be fine with them - a wolf tail here and there will make sure no-one is confused anyway. As for the Flamer/Missile - keep them. You can put aside the ML so that you can keep it for a Long Fang squad in the future. Just to let you know that you should buy that box soon because GW is raising it's prices on the 1st of June so at least if you buy it before then you'll be a bit less skint. :jaw: Edit: I wouldn't go as far as chopping away all the helmets from the basic guys because that will be a lot more work that its worth tbh. @ROTW: You didn't hear me complaining about Poorhammer. Funemployment is teaching me all about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Skywolf Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 Well thanx man about telling m e about the greed workshop(only joking i know the goverment are uping vat from 17.5% to 20%) uppin the prices. That's gunna save me about a fiver. And as for the poor comment I havent got a job as im only 13, I dont get pocket money unless i do something of big value (like giving te car a full valet is £5, cleaning and painting a room is worth about £10) so think I win when it comes to being hella poor. ''Sticks tongue out'' Also i was mulling over your idea about cutting off the heads and using other ones. So cheers. :jaw: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I'm guessing the prices going up are unrelated to the UK's Vat rise. Its Greed Workshop like you say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Well thanx man about telling m e about the greed workshop(only joking i know the goverment are uping vat from 17.5% to 20%) uppin the prices. That's gunna save me about a fiver. And as for the poor comment I havent got a job as im only 13, I dont get pocket money unless i do something of big value (like giving te car a full valet is £5, cleaning and painting a room is worth about £10) so think I win when it comes to being hella poor. ''Sticks tongue out'' Also i was mulling over your idea about cutting off the heads and using other ones. So cheers. :D I decided it was worth it because I was doing something with the painting to make the company more individualistic. Basically the fluff being that the Wolf Lord lost a bet to Lukas Strifeson, so in order for it to show I had to have them have bare heads. And honestly,those bare heads do amazing amounts of the work when it comes to making them clearly space wolves. besides...all it really takes is about 5-10 mins per model for all of the clipping,carving and switching around. For me,the extra effort in modeling is more then worth it,since I can't paint that well so have to rely on modeling to make them individualistic. That and I find it to be quite a lot of fun. I am seriously considering taking and posting some pictures of my army before they are painted to show off the modeling lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Skywolf Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 Well thanx man about telling m e about the greed workshop(only joking i know the goverment are uping vat from 17.5% to 20%) uppin the prices. That's gunna save me about a fiver. And as for the poor comment I havent got a job as im only 13, I dont get pocket money unless i do something of big value (like giving te car a full valet is £5, cleaning and painting a room is worth about £10) so think I win when it comes to being hella poor. ''Sticks tongue out'' Also i was mulling over your idea about cutting off the heads and using other ones. So cheers. :D I decided it was worth it because I was doing something with the painting to make the company more individualistic. Basically the fluff being that the Wolf Lord lost a bet to Lukas Strifeson, so in order for it to show I had to have them have bare heads. And honestly,those bare heads do amazing amounts of the work when it comes to making them clearly space wolves. besides...all it really takes is about 5-10 mins per model for all of the clipping,carving and switching around. For me,the extra effort in modeling is more then worth it,since I can't paint that well so have to rely on modeling to make them individualistic. That and I find it to be quite a lot of fun. I am seriously considering taking and posting some pictures of my army before they are painted to show off the modeling lol. Go for it man i mean it sounds great! I'm guessing the prices going up are unrelated to the UK's Vat rise. Its Greed Workshop like you say. Hhahahahahahahaha :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2409817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Skywolf Posted May 25, 2010 Author Share Posted May 25, 2010 Cheers for every reply. But can i just ask when are they putting up the prices (nuffin on the website) CAn you please tell me? IM defanatly getting it (got £100 from my dad and it aint even my b-day yet) so this is my shopping list Assault on black reach £50 Ork codex £15 Predator (maybe) £25 Green stuff £5 £95 in total but if possible i will get some on ebay Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2411376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 LoL. I build my army with what I had. And what I had was some VERY statick 2nd edition models. :angry: Not very wolfy and not very mariny, but a good place to get misile launchers. I just slapped some wolf tails on them. (I played eldar back then, thank good I only dipped one of the marines in what was an atempt to apply marine blue) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2411389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It was a bit brutal but I was able to rip the bolter off the AOBR Captain and replace it with a stormbolter with arm attached. In the end it matched up pretty well and I use him for a WGBL now. Put a couple of mane's from a Dark Eldar sprue on his back to resemble wadded up wolf pelts and will add a wolf tail or two and he should be quite wolfy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2411546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 The lord is easy to give new weapons mine has twin Lightning Claws *ALA not a wolf But also has long matted hair so he "could" become one* the termies are also easy and the dred is useable with its whole being completly vinilla and bolter marines are bolter marines so yeah . Oh and they come with grenades and such attached already ^_^*I hate that job* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2411588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Skywolf Posted May 25, 2010 Author Share Posted May 25, 2010 I just got it! and Now im gunna be brutal and slice off arms with wolf claws :) its mind boggling in the extreme what is in the box Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2411683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
molsonbeagle Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 keep at it, bud. I sliced and diced all my AOBR models except the captain. He's just too....fruity for a wolf leader, in my opinion. too much shinies and crap. Not wolfy. The others though just take some patience. The tactical symbol on the shoulder can be easily sliced off by a nice sharp hobby knife, and the other arm...well..you may think about a 30$ dremel. it makes a job like that infinitely easier. just slice it off, smooth it out with the knife, put on a wolf arm, and you're set. The heads aren't always bad, in my opinion. I use helmetless heads to designate Blood Claws, while the helmetted heads represent Grey Hunters. Good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2411835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Skywolf Posted May 25, 2010 Author Share Posted May 25, 2010 Yeah im gunna remove all of the codex iconography and some of the fancy piddly stuff and it will be my lone wolf with a wargear combo (either twin wolf calws, plasma pistol and power fist or power sword and storm bolter) Ive also started on some orks as well (1 model painted already) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2412153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Skywolf Posted May 28, 2010 Author Share Posted May 28, 2010 I had another idea of making him a rune priest. Easily done cause the space wolves pack sword is covered in runes and the captain has got a pretty big and ornate neck guard. So just slice off the head (or green stuff some hair) and beef up the neck guard (with green stuff) and make some tubes connecting his head to the neck guard/psychic hood out of old guitar wire (my dad plays guitar so im never out of them) and make him more grizzly and old and all of that crap paint his eyes without pupils (looks creepy and nothing is more creepy than a psyker in power armour). What does everybody think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2415660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 I had another idea of making him a rune priest.Easily done cause the space wolves pack sword is covered in runes and the captain has got a pretty big and ornate neck guard. So just slice off the head (or green stuff some hair) and beef up the neck guard (with green stuff) and make some tubes connecting his head to the neck guard/psychic hood out of old guitar wire (my dad plays guitar so im never out of them) and make him more grizzly and old and all of that crap paint his eyes without pupils (looks creepy and nothing is more creepy than a psyker in power armour). What does everybody think. Sounds awesome actually. I might have to steal that idea for my psyker. the eyes that is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2415989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Skywolf Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 Cheers man I mean I didn't think anybody would think it would work. Pupilless eyes is kinda odd and like i said Nothings is more odd than an elemental Shaman in power armour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2418137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinsfolly Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 I'm in the same situation as the OP, I'm considering getting the AoBR set to help start my SW army because of it's high points/money ratio. Since I'm thinking of pairing it up with a SW battle force, I know I can intersperse the AoBR bolter marines amongst my squads to not make one squad look all Codex-ish. However, I was wondering how hard it is to replace the arms on the terminators with all of the extra ones in the SW termi box. I don't have a problem with 4 helmeted termi's because I know that I can have 6 helmet-less ones when combined with the SW termi box. My main issue is gearing the termi's so they all don't have SB+PF. Any help? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202250-assault-on-black-reachspace-wolves-set/#findComment-2418265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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