RunningWolfFenris Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Hey guys, long time 40k player (15 years) but still wet behind the ears for SWs. I love the army but I'm struggling with a list. I'm looking for a character heavy force but will want to be slightly competitive. I'm not asking for someone to write a full list, but I'm looking for a little advice to point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Well, that depends... could you choose your Great Company first? Almost any SW build can be fluffy because there are great differences between the combat doctrines of respective Wolf Lords. I, for instance, chose Bran Redmaw which for me means a "hunter-like" force which can surround the enemy and hunt him down - so some Wolf Scouts, a few smaller Grey Hunter units with plasmaguns to surround the prey and weaken it, some Long Fangs and a Land Speeder to bring down the most dangerous targets that could endanger the hunters and finally a big pack of Grey Hunters who are there to deliver the killing blow and mop up what's left. Lots of Mark of the Wulfen-equipped models, all led by a Rune Priest for 1000 pts. For bigger games, I'm going to add some bikers led by a WGBL/the Wolf Lord himself (because he wants to catch all his prey and get to it first so he can claim the best trophies), strengthen the Grey Hunter packs and perhaps add another Land Speeder or a Predator tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2410776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Hey guys, long time 40k player (15 years) but still wet behind the ears for SWs. I love the army but I'm struggling with a list. I'm looking for a character heavy force but will want to be slightly competitive. I'm not asking for someone to write a full list, but I'm looking for a little advice to point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. What do you consider fluffy? HQs only? You could consider WG pack leaders to be mini HQs if you want diversity. Each one can have a variety of different wargear and provides a great opportunity for individual modelling If you are limiting yourself to actual HQ units then fluff really depends on the story you want to put behind your force. WL and a WGBL for his next in command RP as the advisor and WP as the spirtual heart of the force Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2410805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Clinto Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 As the posters above me basically stated, read the Wolf Lord descriptions on pages 16 & 17 and see if any of those fit the play style you are looking for. If none of those do make it up as you see fit, make your own Wolf Lord and Great Company. During 3rd edition I constructed my SW army using Bjorn Stormwolf's company markings (mostly because it wasn't the typically used ragnar wolf head) and my choice of army composition was largely in line with his 5th edition fluff (lots of tanks, Boom! Hur Hur!). Now I'm converting that force to Egil Iron Wolf's great company, mainly because of the conversion idea I had for Egil. I'll still use 2+ Vindicators, but now to fit Egil's theme a little more I'm going to customize one of my Land Raiders and use alot more Rhino's & Razorbacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2410821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 If you want laods of HQ's then take several rune priests. Or take loads of WGBL and wolf priests who can lead GH/Blood claws/sky claws/bikerclaws(?) squads. Or go for the ultinmate point sink and get a good wolf lord on a wolf. That ways you can have 8. wolves as HQ (not counting the fenrisian wolves, then you are up in 16!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2411395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWolfFenris Posted May 26, 2010 Author Share Posted May 26, 2010 I kinda like the idea of Egil Iron Wolf, or Gunnar Red Moon I'm thinking of a relatively mobile army with a decent amount of firepower Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2413633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 If you want laods of HQ's then take several rune priests. Or take loads of WGBL and wolf priests who can lead GH/Blood claws/sky claws/bikerclaws(?) squads. how is that fluffy? there should only be 1 wolf lord and 1 wolf guard battle leader per great company, although the later can be discussed. taking multiple wolf priests and runepriests is in my opinion far from fluffwise. it's not like we've got too many of them. usually the great wolf will decide how many priests a company(or part there of) needs. take for example wolf's honour. this is an entire planet on revolt, and how many priests did logan send berek? only the young wolf priest i believe although it's ate and a long time ago since i read that book. if you want a fluff list stick to the core of our army; bloodclaws, greyhunters, long fangs and the occasional wolf guard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2413647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 double post! sorry max! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2413657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2Jack1 Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 and how many priests did logan send berek? Speaking of Berek,without stealing the post, how did he die? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2413662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 How is it not fluffy? Done great they looks really good on the table. Eather if it is the rune priests that stand united in a rune circle or if it is 4 wolf guard battle leaders who march on with axes, claws, swords and mallets. A 260 point wolf lord on a wolf that puts fear even into tyranid players, now that is cool and fluffy. It would be cool and it would look a lott better then the regular 6*5WG+pf/cm wolf guard in a rhino that moast people press out. The fact that you read something in a book hendrik does not make it count for all people. You warhammer purists are rivaling Bibel, Ramayana and Koran quoters when it comes to claims on what is right. The point is that whatever he values as fluffy would be considered fluffy. Even if he used Bjorn, Ragnar, Logan and Njall in the same list as 9 wolf guards, go for it. The good thing about the SW Codex besides being slighty powerfull (if the rumors are true, it is hard to say) is that it encourages you to just go with your gutt feeling, and let the chainswords don the talking. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2413666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 It would be cool and it would look a lott better then the regular 6*5WG+pf/cm wolf guard in a rhino that moast people press out. The fact that you read something in a book hendrik does not make it count for all people. You warhammer purists are rivaling Bibel, Ramayana and Koran quoters when it comes to claims on what is right. well first off all, i believe it's completly impossible to make a fluffy list since a marine's statline would have to be way better etc. second, for any "normal" battle there wouldn't be the need nor the risk to send 4 of your good runepriests/wolfpriests. If however, by a chance of plot, your wolf lord has to fight a great kabal of sorcerrors and the great wolf is aware of it, chances are he'd send more rune priests.that's the thing about 40k. you can always find a story to explain certains things however i'm basing my advise upon the way i see a normal great company functioning, without any extra help from the great wolfs' company Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2413673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 and how many priests did logan send berek? Speaking of Berek,without stealing the post, how did he die? he was killed by a chaos champion who used a deamon tainted axe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2413677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWolfFenris Posted May 27, 2010 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 lol my topic has starting rolling and I have no brakes to stop it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202319-sw-pup-need-help-making-a-slightly-fluffy-list/#findComment-2413893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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