Whitefireinferno Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Woah okay there, Look all forceweapons used to be worded that way and that was before the Eternal Warrior *immune to instant death* and your NFW says *kills outright* but now that your codex is what atlest 5 years behind when you get updated your getting the normal FW and Possibly a special rule against daemons. So yeah You all want the updated wargear and such like Asscans and SS's and whatnot but you want your cake and be able to eat it too but whatever It really makes no difference to me because I have never seen your lot make it to combat But thats just me. well have a nice day and I do hope that ya all get a new Codex at some point in the near future to see who is right on the matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2418434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Meh, with the eternal warrior removed from nids ill trade new assault cannons and SS for my old force weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2418695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor =D= Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 ... but now that your codex is what atlest 5 years behind when you get updated your getting the normal FW and Possibly a special rule against daemons. So yeah You all want the updated wargear and such like Asscans and SS's and whatnot but you want your cake and be able to eat it too... 10 years actually... And I'm curious, what was it the Blood Angels traded in for their new codex? I saw a lot of cake eating when that one hit the table, Space Wolves too, Dark Angels, heck even the Niddlies. Keeping that in mind whats so wrong with my shiny silver warriors eating cake? I'm still gonna be outnumbered 3 to 1 in any game so I may as well grab a cake plate while I wait for the IG to finish with thier "pie plates". =]D[= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2418780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 So the new PDf will also contain a outdated rule. Sustained assault (where are those Daemonpacks) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2419228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Keeping that in mind whats so wrong with my shiny silver warriors eating cake? Not very Grey Knight like, is it? I mean eating cake whilst there are Daemons to purge, litanies to chant and wargear to tend to. :P Who knows what will happen? I reckon they will lose it ignoring EW but will get a bonus against Daemons, maybe ignoring their EW only. But this is speculation, a great enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2419237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 that was before the Eternal Warrior *immune to instant death* You are starting to show just how relatively new to the hobby you are. The concepts of Instant death, immunity to instant death, and bypassing immunity to instant death were not just added to 40K with 5th edition. All three of those concepts have been part of the game for 20 years or more now. They have just been re-worded multiple times over the editions. Obviously weapons that cause instant death are the most common as the easiest way to have that is with strength double toughness. Less common is the immunity to instant death, but this is still kind of common with usually one or more characters from every codex getting that ability. The last concept (bypassing immunity) is by far the rarest of the three, and has been in every edition. I believe that only 2 models in 2nd edition had that ability. And that is as it should be. But just because they limit that to a select few individuals, and don't give every army someone who can do it, doesn't make the ability broken or that we are somehow cheating you because of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2421043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungboy Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 As i said on the previous page, the most recent Daemonhunter Force Weapon rules (Hector Rex's in IA7) STILL bypass Eternal Warrior, indicating they fully intend for DH Force Weapons to continue doing this when a new codex arrives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2421493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilgar Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 As i said on the previous page, the most recent Daemonhunter Force Weapon rules (Hector Rex's in IA7) STILL bypass Eternal Warrior, indicating they fully intend for DH Force Weapons to continue doing this when a new codex arrives. Yup, know thy enemy (name)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2421521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zode Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I have to agree that a NFW in the hands of a Grand Master should still allow for bypassing the eternal warrior rule. How else could even a super human actually hope to defeat a greater daemon in combat as we all agree a GM should be able to do? The potential problem of an elite inquisitor killing a greater daemon is easily remedied by shifting the force weapon "slain outright" description from the force weapon description to the NFW description and continuing to not allow inquisitors to use NFWs. Simple. Then only the Grand Master has the potential to kill large creatures and daemons in one go, and even then he could still fail the test and end up dying anyway, so quit complaining! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2421932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 =][= cant use NFW but can use DH force weapons which go by the same rules apart from the str bonus bit. =][= are meant to be able to kill greater daemons too you know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2421941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zode Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Yep, I'm aware =][= can't use NFW right now, I just meant it should continue that way and bring the definition of DH force weapons in line with everyone else's. I know Inquisitor Lords are supposed to be able to take on the big guys, but that is why they have the daemonhammer, right? Not to mention all the cool new psychic powers they are going to give them (I'm remaining optimistic) :yes: Anyway, back on topic, did the June issue of WD give an estimate of when this month the PDF's are going to be available? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2422230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Nope, it didn't. I've read (on Warseer?) about first week of june tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202436-pdf-codexes/page/2/#findComment-2422299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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