Do you agree?

[Necron God]

Right here is the link to my blog, the post is currently the top one!

It has my list and his list! and my planned tactics!

 

http://fishypride.blogspot.com

 

So I ask for your help! do you agree with the tactics if not how would u play against them? THE LISTS CAN NOT CHANGE!

 

Please post on here on the blog (:

 

Thanks!

 

Ale for all!

[Jonny Wolf]

Sisters are a very fluid fighting force. In other words your tactics should be able to remain flexible to the changing conditions they present.

 

Believe it or not, the cannones (and crew) can be extremely hard to kill in close combat. Shoot them.

 

Shoot sisters repentia - poor saves, but once in hand to hand can be devastating also.

 

And kill the exorcist quickly too.

 

I play a really good sisters player often. Kill the cannoness squad and stay away from her, kill the exorcist(s) and you'll pretty much be able to handle the rest.

[Necron God]

OK thanks sounds good :)

[Taeken]

I will be up against Sisters in a couple of weeks as well. Thanks for the info )

[JaegerAD]

after looking at both lists,

try a gunline,

LR + Pred at the Exorists (combined with scouts )

LF rocket spam to the canoness (maybe split fire)

scouts vs Retributors (or if still standing the Exorists)

 

GH+BC to counter the Sisters,

 

edit: or do your aktiks ;) should read the all the post ^^

[Requiem of the Wolf]

after looking at both lists,

try a gunline,

LR + Pred at the Exorists (combined with scouts )

LF rocket spam to the canoness (maybe split fire)

scouts vs Retributors (or if still standing the Exorists)

 

GH+BC to counter the Sisters,

 

edit: or do your aktiks :ph34r: should read the all the post ^^

Ok...first off you screwed up on the Scouts. either all have melta bombs or none have melta bombs. Expect the Cannonness's to toss out 2+ invulnerable saves every round,but make sure to make him say he is doing it at the START of the shooting phase. I gave you this advice before and you should stick with it. If he doesn't announce it at the start then he can't do it. If he does announce it,just shoot something else.

 

Your instincts are correct on the excorcists...as you need to take them out as quick and fast as possible,as nothing else in that army has the sheer destructive power. Also remember that you can allways go to ground to get a save against them for your normal troops. Put your LF's in cover.

 

The Eviscerator is a Chain fist.it is treated exactly like it,so it will make those characters S6 and I1 on the attack. Note the other Cannonness doesn't have Frag grenades...so make it assault through cover and you will be hitting first. Also remember that any time he doesn't use the Faith point to keep his cannonness invulnerable,pop it with the lascannons on the pred. It will ignore the 2+ armor save,one wound will insta kill it. He doesn't have the Mantle of Ophelia which lets him ignore the first insta kill and treat it as a single wound. the one with the Rosarius will have a 4+ invulnerable save,so that could save it,but thats why you shoot it multiple times lol.

 

Here is a quick run down of the Sisters Faith Abilities. I would suggest writing it all down,paying specific attention to when he has to do it. And to nail him to the wall when he fails to. Make sure every time he misses out on using it that it hurts him alot.

 

Hand of the Emperor : +2 S but I1. Assault phase only. Roll equal to or under number of models for squad,or Leadership test for IC.Make Test of Faith before rolling to hit. The Cannonness with the Eviscerator and the Priest with the Eviscerator are prime candidates for this ability.

 

Divine GuidanceEither assault,Sisters Shooting phase. Roll equal to or under number of models for squad or Leadership test for IC, 12 allways fails. Make Test of Faith after rolling to hit,but before rolling to wound. Any wound rolls of 6 become AP1. The likely candidate for this is the 18 man squad of Sisters...If you let them rapid fire you,you will regret it.

 

The PassionRoll Equal to or Over the number of models in the squad,or Leadership test for IC. Roll at beginning of either assault phase. Adds +2 initiative to the unit.May not be used in same phase as Hand of the Emperor. Does not override weapons that allways strike last or at initiative 1. Does not change the effect of any grenades. Depending on if he is playing straight or not,You could see him trying to use this on the cannonness that doesn't have frag grenades,the cannonness with the eviscerator,or the priest...Otherwise he probably won't end up using this one.

 

Light of the Emperor Test made at Sisters Movement phase. Roll Equal to or over number of models,or Leadership test for IC.Unit becomes fearless till the beginning of its next movement phase. will automatically regroup a squad that is falling back,regardless of ANY and all other factors. Expect this to come up only if you manage to break a important unit,Like one that includes the Cannonness for instance.

 

Spirit of the MartyrEnemy shooting phase,Either players assault phase. Roll equal to or over the number of models in the squad,or leadership test for IC.MUST BE ROLLED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PHASE Unit gains an invulnerable save equal to its normal armor save for the rest of the phase. May not be combined with any other form of save. This is the big one that most Sisters players use and abuse with the Cannnonness. As I told Necron before. at the start of each of your shooting phase,announce that it is the beginning of your shooting phase and then look at the sisters player. If they don't speak up then and there,then you blast the cannonness with lascannons and laugh at him when he tries to get the test of faith to become invulnerable. If he argues,and most will the first time,tell him to look at his codex again. bottom right hand side of page 18 to be exact. also bear in mind that it only counts for that specific unit and not his entire army,so if he only gives it to one unit,blast the hell out of another. With this list,you could potentially make him burn 4 faith points a turn just to keep his Cannonness alive. not to mention any other units.

 

Also remember that every time you wipe out a faithful unit,he gets a Faith point back. So keep track of the faith points he has at the start and how many he uses. He gets the faith point back if they are wiped out,but not if they break and run off the table. Important fact to keep in mind. Page 18 top right hand part,just in case they argue. Do your best to break units and make them run.

 

And before you ask,yes...I have had some dubious games with a Sisters player,up till I started calling him on his Faith powers. Mysteriously at that point he switched over to Space Wolves while playing at the game store I go to. So I learned very fast every trick they have,and how to counter them.

 

Now on to tactics...Its odd that he didn't give the cannonness's jump packs to increase their mobility. So either he will join them with a squad for a while,and then break them off when they get close,or he will just run them. If he runs them solo,make him suffer if he doesn't do the invulnerable check for each cannonnness at the start of each shooting phase. If you do it right,you could wipe out both in the first round. Weaken units,and spread out your shooting to multiple units to make it easier to make them keep taking those leadership tests. The list given shows a starting 7 Faith,with the litanies being able to be used to succeed on a test of faith without spending a point and without testing. But he still has to use the litany to make the test at the appropriate time. He is likely going to try and use that as a suprise for you. Kill the cannonness with lascannon fire before he gets the chance. *grins*

 

All things considered it is not a bad list,but nowhere near as nasty as some I have come across. You have all the tools you need in your army list,minus the mistake on the scouts,to deal with the problem. Use the Faith point guide to make sure he doesn't make a mistake on using them, And when its done let me know if he pulled any tricks that I didn't mention.

[Necron God]

okay thanks!

 

My mate has been talking to him, it sounds like all 3 HQs will run forward with the squad of 18 while the squad of 10 runs foward aswell!

[Requiem of the Wolf]

okay thanks!

 

My mate has been talking to him, it sounds like all 3 HQs will run forward with the squad of 18 while the squad of 10 runs foward aswell!

If they are all in the squad of 18,try and make them fall back. Send some serious assault units at it,and make them fail their leadership. you do that and you can wipe them all out with sweeping advance.But you gotta make sure to hit them with a small enough force that its hard for his IC's to get into base to base. Send all the attacks at the troops and make double sure you win that assault.

[Necron God]

What I might do, if the big squad with the HQs gets close, chuck all my hunters and claws at them! then they should lose combat!

[SJumppanen]

okay thanks!

 

My mate has been talking to him, it sounds like all 3 HQs will run forward with the squad of 18 while the squad of 10 runs foward aswell!

If they are all in the squad of 18,try and make them fall back. Send some serious assault units at it,and make them fail their leadership. you do that and you can wipe them all out with sweeping advance.But you gotta make sure to hit them with a small enough force that its hard for his IC's to get into base to base. Send all the attacks at the troops and make double sure you win that assault.

 

Just a reminder that sisters have BoSL almost certainly. So if Canoness is in that group they will be making their ld checks with ld10 and no modifiers need to apply.

[Requiem of the Wolf]

okay thanks!

 

My mate has been talking to him, it sounds like all 3 HQs will run forward with the squad of 18 while the squad of 10 runs foward aswell!

If they are all in the squad of 18,try and make them fall back. Send some serious assault units at it,and make them fail their leadership. you do that and you can wipe them all out with sweeping advance.But you gotta make sure to hit them with a small enough force that its hard for his IC's to get into base to base. Send all the attacks at the troops and make double sure you win that assault.

 

Just a reminder that sisters have BoSL almost certainly. So if Canoness is in that group they will be making their ld checks with ld10 and no modifiers need to apply.

BoSL?

[the jeske]

book of salvation . an auto upgrade any VSS takes . you do all LD checks on unmodified LD of the bearer within 6" of her.

 

I didnt play sob for a long time , but how does he give his priests power armor ? they can take plasma guns [and cant use them] but I dont remember them being able to take power armor . but then again I never used priests after 2ed.

 

 

also are those big squads melta+mulit melta or 2xmeltguns ?

[SJumppanen]

book of salvation . an auto upgrade any VSS takes . you do all LD checks on unmodified LD of the bearer within 6" of her.

 

Book of St. Lucius to be exact, but close enough. This means that even if you kill all but one of sisters in CC they just won't care about losses and just use LD9 or 10 and pass the test. And most of all, they won't even take extra wounds fearless units would take.

[Requiem of the Wolf]

book of salvation . an auto upgrade any VSS takes . you do all LD checks on unmodified LD of the bearer within 6" of her.

 

Book of St. Lucius to be exact, but close enough. This means that even if you kill all but one of sisters in CC they just won't care about losses and just use LD9 or 10 and pass the test. And most of all, they won't even take extra wounds fearless units would take.

BUT there isnt any book of ST lucious in the wargear list.

[the jeske]

does it matter how it is called? the gear does exist and sob take all Ld related tests on their basic Ld.

[Necron God]

The point is...if you LOOKED AT THE LIST! you would have seen that book of ST lucious isnt in the list I am up against!