FallenLion Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 ok so I want a Raven Guard + Templar (look) successor general idea - I've only thought of this today so needs lots of fleshing out general idea is that a young/newly/recently formed templar chapter dispatched a company - whole company - to aid the Raven Guard in a campaign This templar chapter whilst maintaining their armour and organization began to incorporate the RG tactics - due to aiding in behind the line strikes so had to learn stealth, except after the initial ambush the templars raven - name used for time being - would then go crazy and templar battle style. Slowly the templar battle style became more and more refrained as the campaign continued - due to lack of re-enforcement and pressure from the RG (their campaign). So after the campaign - long campaign but years not to sure about - the Templars Raven continued to have very close relations with the Raven Guard and over time they have often lent their aid to the RG and grown closer to their tactica. So here we have a stealthy and ambush brilliant templar looking chapter with little reliance on Heavy Support due to their tactica evolving while having no HS available. That looks kick ass - templar style and is quite similar to RG please pick apart, criticize and help out every way you can thanks all FallenLion Look is hopefully a 40k version of this http://www.artbylowis.com/arts/3d/armor_templar.jpg well roughly that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202794-need-a-name/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobius Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Interesting idea, however there are a few questions that need answering... 1. Why would the Chapter as a whole change their tactics because of something a single company learned for a specific mission? 2. Why would the RG let fighters not experienced with guerilla style warfare come along on the stealthy missions? 3. Why was the templar style of fighting so ineffective? And if it was so ineffective why were the templars invited in the first place? Please don't think of these questions as criticisms, just things you're going to have to be imaginative about when answering in your fluff :P As for a name, do you want to include both templar and raven imagery? Some other words for black: black, gray, atramental, atramentous, black as November, black as a shoe, black as a tinker's pot, black as jet, black as midnight, black as my hat, black as thunder, brunette, coal, dingy, dusky, ebon, ebony, ethiopic, fuliginous, inky, jet, murky, nigrescent, nocturnal, obscure, of the deepest dye, perse, pitchy, raven, sable, scoriac, somber, soot, sooty, suggilated, swart, swarthy, zibeline Some other words that you can use instead of raven that I can think of: Rook, Corby, Crow, Corvus, Corvid, Jackdaw Some other words that can be used in place of templar: banneret, caballero, cavalier, champion, chevalier, companion, gallant, gentleman, horseman, knight errant, lover, man-at-arms, paladin, partisan, protagonist, crusader Of course, a small description of why they are called whatever you decide to call them will be necessary :) I've got dibs on Nigrescent Crusaders! -J- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202794-need-a-name/#findComment-2417102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 There was another member who had an idea that was slightly along the same lines as yours and he also needed a name. Now I'm not sure if he used the idea but a name I gave him was the Knights Corvus/ Corvus Knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202794-need-a-name/#findComment-2417112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenLion Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 Interesting idea, however there are a few questions that need answering... 1. Why would the Chapter as a whole change their tactics because of something a single company learned for a specific mission? A - Chapter was in their infancy and wasn't a whole mission it was a campaign and the raven guard and other forces their e.g. IG and Titans and the newly created Templar Corvus (I like that name) where sent to aid the whole campaign, this campaign lasted for years - a long campaign not sure years at the moment - and the Raven Guard slowly adopted them and gradually they were trained in small strike teams to assist the RG, and those teams gradually expanded within the TC and the RG stealth tactics gradually became more popular 2. Why would the RG let fighters not experienced with guerilla style warfare come along on the stealthy missions? A - To start with the RG didn't during the battle of the ... (making this up) the TC dealt with an ambush with ruthless efficiency and the RG captain decided to form strike teams of TC so that they can aid the RG in strikes. Then the answer to 1 is relevant. 3. Why was the templar style of fighting so ineffective? And if it was so ineffective why were the templars invited in the first place? A - It wasn't, they started by enforcing the IG and Titan forces but then the RG save the ruthless efficiency and saw an opportunity and formed strike teams etc Please don't think of these questions as criticisms, just things you're going to have to be imaginative about when answering in your fluff :devil: A - No its fine don't worry thats why its up here - to work out the kinks As For a name I think I'm going for Templars Corvus Paint Scheme will be like the Iron Knights but instead of green it will be dark blue Ideas? or shall I stick with http://www.artbylowis.com/arts/3d/armor_templar.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/202794-need-a-name/#findComment-2417531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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