The Unknown Father Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Hi! I don´t use tech marines very much (neither none of my friends) so I decided to tried them but some doubts coe to me about the servitors. 1) the techmarine of the TSC allows you to include servitors (literally is a techmarines)? 2)If the first answer is affirmative can the servitors join the techmarine AND the TSC? 3)Are the servitors a scoring unit if the objetive is "aniquilation"? Finally, even thnking that probably it is not the right place i would like you to tell me your experiences with techmarines, do they worth? thank you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 1) No, hes not. Hes a Techmarine Gunner RAW. 2) No, they couldnt even if he could take them- you cannot simply choose to conjoin two units because theres a potential independent character in one of them. 3) Aniquilation? Ive never heard of it. In "annihilation" there are no scoring units. As for Techmarines, you should ask that in the Tactica section. Just two subforums down. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2419699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 Ok, what I mean about if the servitors are scoring units in annihilation is that if the enemy scores a point by killing them in that mission Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2419702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Yes, they are. They are a seperate unit from the Techmarine/MotF that took them so they count. Just like a Command Squad and a Captain, or a Rhino and Tac squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2419703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeEncarmine Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 One minor note: Unlike the other Marine codecies, Blood Angel servitors are part of the Techmarine entry as options and thus will not give up an extra kill point. Of course, our Techmarines also aren't ICs, because apparently they don't like playing with other Blood Angels ;). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2419940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 One minor note: Unlike the other Marine codecies, Blood Angel servitors are part of the Techmarine entry as options and thus will not give up an extra kill point. Of course, our Techmarines also aren't ICs, because apparently they don't like playing with other Blood Angels :rolleyes:. Indeed, its the same with SW Iron Priests... but neither codex has access to a TFC either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2420321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 another quick question: can a tech marine run and repair in the same turn? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2420590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 No. Blessing of the Omnissiah is used instead of shooting. He'd need to choose between running or mending. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2420651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorneeq Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I'll add another question to this tread instead of making a new one... Are Blood Angels servitors removed if the Techmarine is killed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2421139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 @Grey Mage For your information, Aniquilation is just a direct translation of how the mission is named in spanish (Aniquilación). Most of us non-english speakers do try our best to translate and make our ideas understood. Fortunately, you were helpfull as always and associated Aniquilation to Annihilation ;) @Khorneeq I'd say its normal wound allocation for a unit... If you loose the technomarine, I think (don't have the book with me) a special rule kicks in for the servitors. But I believe that you don't have to remove the models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2421199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 @Grey MageFor your information, Aniquilation is just a direct translation of how the mission is named in spanish (Aniquilación). Most of us non-english speakers do try our best to translate and make our ideas understood. Fortunately, you were helpfull as always and associated Aniquilation to Annihilation :) "Gracias, me habla espanol... un poco. "Aniquilation" est mas alla de me vocabulario. Me habla francais bueno." As its been about six years since I took a spanish class, I figured hed just pulled a butter-fingers, sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2421329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorneeq Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 @ Tanhausen My bad that I didn't write it clearly. Blood Angels codex is wrote little differently than codex Space Marines. Servitors don't have their own special rules, they are placed in the Techmarines entry similarly to wargear which confuses me. "Techmarine can be accompanied by servitors". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2421367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Sin problemas - No problem What could you expect from a SW...a shame my primarch didn't smack hard enough :lol: @Khorneeq I don't have the C:BA so I can't help you out there, sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2421368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeEncarmine Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I think that BA servitors will still be alive if the techmarine gets shot out of the unit. Unlike Fenrisian Wolves for SW characters, the actual listing for the servitors is in the unit composition heading as "0-5 Servitors", which leads me to believe that a BA techmarine and his servitor buddies operate as a normal squad on the battlefield. And apparently, we use smarter servitors than most of the other Chapters as they don't go braindead without their shepherd :lol: . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2421383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Yeah, theyre just like buying extra marines in a tactical squad for C:SW and C:BA, with no mind-lock issues. *Shrugs* put it down to better craftsmanship with the two older chapters, as opposed to the average of a thousand newer chapters or some such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2421436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorneeq Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Thank You very much guys. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2421495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted June 5, 2010 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 I´m here again! another thing, can a techmarine repair a dreadnougth who is fighting in a combat? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2425072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 I see no reason why not, but it will be dificult as you cant get within 1" of the enemy who will by definition be BtB and forced to try and suround the dread. You could charge and join the assault but I dont think you can repair if the techmarine himself is locked in combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2425460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 It he meets all other criteria as Frosty pointed out and the other Blessing of the Omissiah rules are met there is nothing stopping the Techie repairing the Dread even if he (the Techie) is locked in combat. According to the BotO rule C:SM p71, the only time it can't be used is when the Techie falling back or has gone to ground. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2426774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz1858 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yep id go with Frosty and Isiah on this one. Aslong as in btb contact then alls good! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2426782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 It he meets all other criteria as Frosty pointed out and the other Blessing of the Omissiah rules are met there is nothing stopping the Techie repairing the Dread even if he (the Techie) is locked in combat. According to the BotO rule C:SM p71, the only time it can't be used is when the Techie falling back or has gone to ground. He can't shoot if locked in CC, therefore he can't repair instead of Shooting. Same logic as for running. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2426852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Good point :P. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2427006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 Another new doubt: can a techmarine use bolster defenses if he is not deployed at begining of the game? (for example in dawn of war) I think so but its not clear (or logical) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2454997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Since it says you bolster the ruin before the game begins, I'd say yes, you can. It also makes no mention that he has to be on the table in order to do so. It simply says "During depolyment pick one ruin...." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2455086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Yep, hes part of your army you get to use the rule on a ruin on the field. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203006-techmarine-and-servitors/#findComment-2455118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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