chaplain belisarius Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Hi, I have written up a nice 1k black legion list but am unsure what to spend my last 100 points on. do i get; a dreadnought with 2DCCW? A predator destructor with heavy bolters? or 5 raptors to act as a bullet shield...oops! i mean bodyguard for my chaos lord? Any thoughts? Would it help more if i post my 1k list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burias-Drak'shal Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 It would probably help if you posted your list to see what it is potentially lacking e.g shooting, CC etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeonic Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 A better question IMO would be "what does your army need more of that can be had for 100 pts?". A dual DCCW dread won't do much on his own, but if he would compliment your daemon princes and advancing rhinos as far as armor saturation is concerned, sure go for it. Worst case he stands around shooting twin linked bolters at stuff he can't hurt, right? Still, IMO he doesn't bring much to the table and is unreliable to boot, with very little advantage for it. Dakka pred would go well if you lacked long range fire support, but you could slip another oblit in and have change left over for the same points, and oblits are good vs any target. What would 5 raptors bring to the table that your army lacks? If you took 5 raptors could you squeeze 2 meltaguns or flamers in there to make them more than just the bodies the unit is composed of? How about chaos glory to keep them from fleeing the table with your expensively kitted(guessing) winged lord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffy.Gee Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 How about a small scoring unit A six man squad of marines with a meltagun, a five man squad with a flamer and champion or a five man squad with plasmagun and an icon of Chaos glory could all be yours for 100 points. Not neccessarily the most exciting or tactically beneficial units but they would be adaptable to several situations and could be easily expanded upon when you expand your army. If you feel you already have scoring units down, or just don't fancy more infantry then you could take a greater demon. Personally if this is just a fun list, I'd take the Dread, as I'd say they offer some of the best conversion oppotunities and look awesome. JG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Without knowing more about your list, my gut instincts are: 1) 7 Lesser Daemons (assuming you have alot of Icons present) 2) 3 Terminators with 2 Combi-Weapons or Heavy Flamer/Combi or maybe a Power Fist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 How about a Greater Daemon? I know some people don't like them But they are pretty damn hard. Plus the look of terror on your enemies (valued gamer) face when a lowly aspiring champion becomes a raging Daemon of doom, is always heart warming :devil: Plus it a bargain at 100pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Plus it a bargain at 100pts. that is a lie . a GD costs . 100pts + the cost of the asp champion he kills +the cost of the transport that gets a footslogging wingless MC in to hth range [hoping it wont pop before your in range]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeonic Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I don't get that argument. Yes, it costs you a champ, but you'd be taking him anyways. Yes it takes a rhino for proper application...but you'd be taking it anyways. The champ dies, but the rhino is useful afterwards and is used above and beyond that one goal. So In my mind the cost is just the 100 pts+a champ that you'd be taking anyways in your list. Would hurt a little if he had a fist, but all in the name of sacrifice for the greater good(evil?). :rolleyes: At 1k pts espescially on a smaller board a GD would be freaking nasty for 100 pts. Still, the use relies heavily on luck so I can't recommend it too highly, other than for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 he kills the champ. if the champ dies you have to use a different one [which maybe on the other side of the board , but considering how slow the GD demon is it may just as well be 4-5" away and it will never get to hth] . A DP costs 150+ points . doesnt kill your own models , is there from turn 1 and flys , the same thing can be said about any other chaos unit[well excluding the dreadnought] . A GD has to kill your own model making the csm/zerker unit weaker and as there is a 50% chance it will come on turn 2 , the GD maybe out of charge range and it that happens you end up with a slow carnifax that cant shot . At 1k pts espescially on a smaller board a GD would be freaking nasty for 100 pts or I could just not take the GD , not take the asp champion [and take a 5man 2xplas pm squad] and buy for the same points a DP wth wings . the smaller the points played the bigger the chance that the asp champion will die before being in range or that his rhino will be blown up [what mens GD out of range again] . at 2500 one could argue that it is impossible to kill 5-8 asp champions in rhinos , but at 2.5k points the GD is plain weak and dies in one turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 I really love your posts Jeske :P , so cynical, so fatalistic. They always make me smile. i'm sure you are just voicing what a lot of people think, you just do it so well. very straight talking :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 my list- 2 vindicators, 10 chaos marines with 2 meltaguns, icon of chaos glory, aspiring champion with powerfist. in rhino. 9 chaos marines-meltagun, icon of chaos glory, asp champ with bolter/melta and powerfist. in rhino. led by chaos lord with powersword, mark of tzeentch, bolt pistol and bolter/melta combi weapon. What should i spend the last 100 points on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 I really love your posts Jeske :lol: , so cynical, so fatalistic.They always make me smile. i'm sure you are just voicing what a lot of people think, you just do it so well. very straight talking ;) Really? Because they always come off sounding arrogant and condescending to me. On topic, Belisarius, I'd suggest a unit of seven lesser daemons. It gives you a third Troop for taking objectives, introduces a deep strike option to your otherwise all-mechanized army, and if used as a throw-away assault unit all they really need are the icons for accurate deep striking -- which you already have two of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I'd choose the pred with HB sponsons. Having an all tank army at 1k points could be pretty painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuznP Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I'd tend to go with the Lesser Daemons for a 3rd option to hold objectives... Or failing that a Dread with an additional DCCW and a Missile Launcher could offer a bit of ranged fire support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I would upgrade the powersword on your lord to a daemon weapon, give him meltabombs, and add daemonic possession to the vindicators if they don't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuznP Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Woo I agree with nurglez! Then you'll have some points remaining so throw Havoc launchers, combi weapons or extra armor on your rhinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted June 4, 2010 Author Share Posted June 4, 2010 im torn between the pred destructor and dread with 2 DCCW (use the forge world black legion dreadnought, which is nice)... I personally dont like daemons that much-i want lots of black legionnaires! Thanks for the advice guys...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 ive decided! If im against hordes or eldar, i will field the destructor. If im against MEQ ill field the dread...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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