Gree Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I will admit that I always found Wolf Priests to be the coolest members of the Space Wolves. I think it's because of the helms. Anyway I was re-reading Wolf's Honor when it got me thinking. How are Wolf Priests initiated and recruited? Sigurd in the novel is essentially an untested Blood Claw. It would just seem odd to me that a young and untested warrior would be entrusted with such an important postion. Reading the Wolf codex and Ulrik's entry makes it seem like a positon entrusted to only the most experianced Wolf Guard. Is there any fluff I missed how Wolf Priests are selected? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I will admit that I always found Wolf Priests to be the coolest members of the Space Wolves. I think it's because of the helms. Anyway I was re-reading Wolf's Honor when it got me thinking. How are Wolf Priests initiated and recruited? Sigurd in the novel is essentially an untested Blood Claw. It would just seem odd to me that a young and untested warrior would be entrusted with such an important postion. Reading the Wolf codex and Ulrik's entry makes it seem like a positon entrusted to only the most experianced Wolf Guard. Is there any fluff I missed how Wolf Priests are selected? Your best option would be to PM Grey Mage and ask him to post an answer...to my memory I cannot recall ANYTHNG about Wolf Priest Initiation and selection. As I am going to have to eventually write a story about it myself I would appreciate an answer as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2423952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeddon Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Speaking on Sigurd, I don't think that he was necessarily inexperienced as a warrior, just that he was inexperienced with his new position as a Wolf Priest. I do not recall any specific fluff on their initiation either but I can check my 2nd ed codex when I get home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2424090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted June 4, 2010 Author Share Posted June 4, 2010 Yes, I was wondering if they took apprenticies. Maybe Wolves who showed the ability to inspire or a skill at healing others? I believe it says somewere that the secrets of the healing balms are passed down from Wolf Priests to Wolf Priest, which may indicate an apprenticeship of some short. So I can imagine some hoary old Wolf Priest tutoring a younger Blood Claw or Grey Hunter who showed promise in guarding the bodies and souls of his Brothers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2424091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapniK Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Its probably like all other positions in the chapter, you are selected based on a meritocratic system, beyond that I guess they are selected or marked out while still being blood claws and once the hit grey hunter status their sent to learn with their specific priest order. Also I guess you could look on the scout and rune/iron priest entry, they all seem to collaborate this. I'll look in the 2th edition codex when I get home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2424121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Nostromo Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Speaking on Sigurd, I don't think that he was necessarily inexperienced as a warrior, just that he was inexperienced with his new position as a Wolf Priest. This very much how I saw it - inexperienced as wolf priest rather than as a space wolf - notably 'young' for a priest though... I must admit alot of my fluff writing centres around my two wolf priests, and it had never occrured to me to question how they come to be in terms of initiation etc. One of mine spent time with the deathwatch which gives him a few of his, erm, funkier, characteristics, but I must admit I can think of no reference to the question you ask... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2424693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 seems to me to be based on their charismatic abilities and fighting skills. He was able to keep his blood claws under control in the book despite being a royal arse in Ragnars backside. or it could be based on something like the Iron Priest who are only selected from those of black smith back grounds as per the 5th ed. codex. however ulrick does pose a quandary, he was elected to lead based on fighting ability along with his ferociousness in combat. If he was elected to lead that shows he already had some leadership ability however he didnt want it. With that he decided (i think) to become a priest. hopefully that helps somehow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2425265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Wolf Priests are just that- Priests. Its a calling. Ulrik is an excellant wolf priest because he came to it seasoned, wisened up, and because, as ye said- he had the makings of a wolf lord but the wisdom to step aside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2425565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousFerret Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Wolf Priests are chosen from the Long Fangs. When they are promoted to the Priesthood, they take on a new name in the interest of impartiality, and are mourned as dead by their pack brethren and everyone else. Codex Space Wolves, 2nd ed. That piss in the sixth Space Wolf novel about the Wolf Priest being a young Fenrisian nobleman is just that - piss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2425999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 Wolf Priests are chosen from the Long Fangs. When they are promoted to the Priesthood, they take on a new name in the interest of impartiality, and are mourned as dead by their pack brethren and everyone else. Codex Space Wolves, 2nd ed. That piss in the sixth Space Wolf novel about the Wolf Priest being a young Fenrisian nobleman is just that - piss. Are you sure? I've been able to aqquire a copy of the Second Edition Codex and I've found nothing about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Wolf Priests are chosen from the Long Fangs. When they are promoted to the Priesthood, they take on a new name in the interest of impartiality, and are mourned as dead by their pack brethren and everyone else. Codex Space Wolves, 2nd ed. That piss in the sixth Space Wolf novel about the Wolf Priest being a young Fenrisian nobleman is just that - piss. page number? WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 The early Space Wolves books have a few hints. In general a Wolf Priest is likely selected in the same way as a Chaplain, from the most devout and fanatical of the Chapter's Battle-Brothers and likely candidates are probably groomed from the moment they enter the Chapter as initiates. Some just have a better understanding of battlefield medicine, or technology or are more zealous and faith driven than the others and such recruits potential eventually gets noticed and they are called upon to join the specialists of the Chapter. I'm sure the Wolf Priests have plenty of esoteric rituals and training that they undergo but they have never been explained. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 i dont know i think the medical part is trained later, anyone (with enough brain washing or re-education) can be made into a surgeon, albeit not a very good one. i think their main qualification is charisma and devoutness you know? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Wolf Priests are chosen from the Long Fangs. When they are promoted to the Priesthood, they take on a new name in the interest of impartiality, and are mourned as dead by their pack brethren and everyone else. Codex Space Wolves, 2nd ed. That piss in the sixth Space Wolf novel about the Wolf Priest being a young Fenrisian nobleman is just that - piss. page number? WLK it was in the 2ed dex and I think in the 3ed dex too , it was in the WD articles when SW got their new dex . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Wolf Priests are chosen from the Long Fangs. When they are promoted to the Priesthood, they take on a new name in the interest of impartiality, and are mourned as dead by their pack brethren and everyone else. Codex Space Wolves, 2nd ed. That piss in the sixth Space Wolf novel about the Wolf Priest being a young Fenrisian nobleman is just that - piss. page number? WLK it was in the 2ed dex and I think in the 3ed dex too , it was in the WD articles when SW got their new dex . again, page number? i have the 2nd ed in my hands, and on page 13 they got into the priests of the Wolves, and make no mention of this. On page 48, the Wolf Priest unit entry, no mention is made of this either. on page 30 of the 3rd ed book, where again a description of the Wolf Priest is given, no mention of this is made. i can find NOTHING that says that Wolf Priests are recruited from the Long Fangs, or that they take a new name, or anything else claimed by RRChristensen. i dont want to call anybody a liar, but i would like to see a reference or page number to see if i myself have read this correctly. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaegerAD Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 the priests change thier names, to cut thier bands to their old pack and to be fair jugdes as they belong to the great wolf company,as all priests do. and yes traditionaly the Priests are recruited from tho longfangs. source: German WD, page 50 ( Codicium imperialis , band VI. part I liber honorus) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 the priests change thier names, to cut thier bands to their old pack and to be fair jugdes as they belong to the great wolf company,as all priests do.and yes traditionaly the Priests are recruited from tho longfangs. source: German WD, page 50 ( Codicium imperialis , band VI. part I liber honorus) THANK YOU. I own the 2nd, 3rd and 5th ed codexes, and my main enjoyment in 40k is the background, which sadly means i have to deal with alot of contradictions from edition to edition. i am always looking for more, and was truely suprised at reading this. out of curiousity's sake, has this ever been reprinted in another source? (my German is non-existant) and i would like to somehow add this to my little trove of sources. i spend alot of time and money at used book stores, usualy emerging suprised as the loot i find. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaegerAD Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 i dont know, whether its reprinted or not,sorry. btw my wd cover is gone ... its the wd when "Codex Craftworld Eldar" was announced back in 2000 may be this helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 i dont know, whether its reprinted or not,sorry. btw my wd cover is gone ... its the wd when "Codex Craftworld Eldar" was announced back in 2000 may be this helps. Well that is a starting point, so again thanks. guess my randomn trips now have a purpose! WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203333-wolf-priest-training-and-initiation/#findComment-2426567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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