chapter master 454 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Well so far I was unsuccessful at crow-barring in somethings from animes however looking on BA fluff I decided to see if I could make something thats unusual but not DBZ sanguinor ultimate muscle slamming a bloodthirster. The idea is the creation of a weapon from a human's soul or a part of it. The idea is to be applied to only on character in my chapter and no more. In other words: the weapon is the persons soul with no daemons even touching it. It would stem from a chaos related inciddent but the character remains pure. Right enough of me giving you pseudo paragraphs: The chapter master of the archangels (my chapter) has a blade that transforms into a larger black bladed two-handed weapon. The weapon itself was made from one of his early days in the chapter (i've abandoned his old fluff) and during this he was tortured and put through a chaos sorc's experimental procedure of making powerful weapons that the user could use without having to barter with daemons who would turn on their user far too easily. The idea was for them to see if one could survive the operation and make use of the weapon, a whole warband armed with extremely powerful close combat weapons was what was intended. However the to-be chapter master (his name is still being decided) not only survived the ordeal but eventually broke free and using the weapon that was now bound to be forever in his possession and unremovable, he destroyed the sorc and all of his research and majority of his warband. No other would suffer what he did again. The blade itself was a simple one sided katana, the power of the soul binding to it though gave it a larger size and blackend the blade, the chapter master will only draw it when war is upon them. It is noted the blade returns to it's normal size and colour when sheathed. While many question the purity of the blade, none would question the chapter masters rage against chaos and not even inquistion dare call him corrupt, he has had several accounts recorded of his pure hatred of chaos being the root of some of his greatest achievements and thus far is yet to show any signs of corruption bar the sigils he was branded with by the heretical scum when he was captured. He would of had them removed but foul magic retains them form. He therefor is seen wearing a hood, helmet or mask to hide these icons. yes, far-fetched but I personally feel I want a weapon that's truely unique and not some random relic found on random world that they saved. Wanted something to drive my chapters hatred towards chaos and make it more than the 'fallen brothers' hatred normally seen. It's a chapters grudge! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viray Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Right enough of me giving you pseudo paragraphs: The chapter master of the archangels (my chapter) has a blade that transforms into a larger black bladed two-handed weapon. The weapon itself was made from one of his early days in the chapter (i've abandoned his old fluff) and during this he was tortured and put through a chaos sorc's experimental procedure of making powerful weapons that the user could use without having to barter with daemons who would turn on their user far too easily. The idea was for them to see if one could survive the operation and make use of the weapon, a whole warband armed with extremely powerful close combat weapons was what was intended. However the to-be chapter master (his name is still being decided) not only survived the ordeal but eventually broke free and using the weapon that was now bound to be forever in his possession and unremovable, he destroyed the sorc and all of his research and majority of his warband. No other would suffer what he did again. Too overpowered. Also, if someone did it once, someone will do it again. Your man destroying the sorceror's research will only delay the inevitable, not stop it. The blade itself was a simple one sided katana, the power of the soul binding to it though gave it a larger size and blackend the blade, the chapter master will only draw it when war is upon them. It is noted the blade returns to it's normal size and colour when sheathed. While many question the purity of the blade, none would question the chapter masters rage against chaos and not even inquistion dare call him corrupt, he has had several accounts recorded of his pure hatred of chaos being the root of some of his greatest achievements and thus far is yet to show any signs of corruption bar the sigils he was branded with by the heretical scum when he was captured. He would of had them removed but foul magic retains them form. He therefor is seen wearing a hood, helmet or mask to hide these icons. Why a katana? Also, it does not matter how righteously pissed off your man may be against Chaos, if an Inquisitor feels that he, a Chapter Master of an Adeptus Astartes Chapter, could possibly be corrupt, he is a dead man. What I suggest is changing how he got the weapon and also making the weapon's true nature a secret amongst the Chapter. Truly, your idea is not bad at all, in fact, it's freaking awesome, but it could use some spit and polish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2426440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical Cricket Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Hm, I think there's some show about people with katanas that change shape depending on the users soul. Can't think of the name though. Pine-sol? Febreeze? Tide? Geez, that's gonna bug me all night... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2426480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 Hm, I think there's some show about people with katanas that change shape depending on the users soul. Can't think of the name though. Pine-sol? Febreeze? Tide? Geez, that's gonna bug me all night... I sense sarcasm but let me tell you a secret... IT'S WHITE KING, WHITER THAN WHITES Yes, this is my old attempt at crowbarring some form of anime into my chapter but far more sedated and more reasonable put in. The anime is called bleach, the katanas are called zanpakuto and I'm an anime fan without shame. Nice to meet you! As for Viray, thank you for the input I shall take into consideration your idea. Maybe I will make it only known by the chapter masters honour guard? However I believe there is some debate over inquisitor power over marine chapters, I mean what the heck with kyras in DoW2: chaos rising, he's chaos and no inquisitor never noticed? quite a major oversight there . Anyway I will try and make my chapter masters backstory when I can properly and I shall hope at long last I can make a unique weapon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaplainMathreyn Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Dawn of War: Anything is a really, Really bad place to draw Anything remotely useful about the 40K universe... At the rate I lose Dreadnaughts and Terminator armor in that stinking game... I would've been executed for heresy a long, long time ago... >.< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viray Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 The galaxy is a big place, bro; the Inquisition can't be everywhere at once, hence Chaos uprisings. <_< Also, there are less painful ways to add references to anime to your Chapter. Hell, the Aurora Knights recovered the "Devil's Spear," an alien artifact of unknown but terrible power. However, if you've watched Keroro Gunso and were particularly astute when you read the passage... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 The galaxy is a big place, bro; the Inquisition can't be everywhere at once, hence Chaos uprisings. :D Also, there are less painful ways to add references to anime to your Chapter. Hell, the Aurora Knights recovered the "Devil's Spear," an alien artifact of unknown but terrible power. However, if you've watched Keroro Gunso and were particularly astute when you read the passage... Just realised something. Didn't vulkan throw out 7 relics for his chapter to recover...I'm sure it's seven anyway, and when all are gathered together again he shal reappear. I think DBZ fans know where this comes from (and to boot they're GREEN!) Anyway, well if the inquistion can't be everywhere then I don't see how this weapon of mine can be so easily taken as an immediate inquistional threat. Anyway, think I'll get started on his fluff now, maybe modify his rules I have put into homegrown. Anyway, thanks for the input guys. (and DoW isn't that bad is it? It's more the enjoyment of th story that counts, the moment you try and take it seriously you lose sight of what it truely was meant for: enjoyment. I mean it's also taking a little far trying to give a fictional reality limiting things, we're talking about a universe that uses travel that could make you your own great great grand father of your uncle!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I think there should be people hunting your Chapter Master. Like Chaos Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaplainMathreyn Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 It isn't about what you can do... Hells, I could reincarnate Sanguinius, and make him close the Eye of Terror if I wanted... It's make ing it Believeable... And, yeah, I remember... You were trying to create weapons that thought for themselves, and changed, etc. ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viray Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Anyway, well if the inquistion can't be everywhere then I don't see how this weapon of mine can be so easily taken as an immediate inquistional threat. And it wouldn't be an immediate threat... if the Inquisition did not already know about it. Based on how you introduced the weapon, namely explicitly stating the Inquisition have knowledge of it, I thought it best to point out that the Inquisition wouldn't be letting such a thing slide just because your man was particularly zealous. A possibly corrupt Space Marine is a terrible threat, a possibly corrupt Space Marine Chapter Master though is an entirely other level of scary. That aside, I look forward to seeing what you come up with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 It depends how you are trying to integrate the anime influence into your chapter that makes it viable, alongside the usual trials of making whatever you write coherent and believable. Anime in of itself doesn't mesh very well with 40k in my opinion, the stylizations, plot and attitudes drawn from both are rather incongruous when placed side by side. You may point to the Tau as evidence as how it can work, but if you were around when they were first brought in you should remember a fair amount of backlash against GW for their creation. Not only that but GW really does not have the best track record for creating decent material for it's own universe. I still hate the Tau, personally, but with the Farsight Enclaves I think they have finally gained some depth and fit a bit better into the 40k universe as a whole. Anyway I'm swerving wildly off topic here. I think if you can define the inspiration that you are drawing from your anime succinctly, such as a specific idea, attitude etc, you can more easily build a chapter around it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Your Chapter master should be named Phaar Fitty Phaar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2427991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 Your Chapter master should be named Phaar Fitty Phaar. You know, vague references to the number 454 is kinda my thing. His name was going to be shigoshi but I thought against it. I could always take the name Kyoukotsu to him and laugh at the reference. As for anime and 40k, I believe they can mesh, it depends on where you compare. I mean when you just lamp in gundams ofcourse there's backlash as those two universes don't mix. I've seen some pretty grisly animes that make 40k look like a long lost relative (hellsing for one. ultimate, not the other) not to mention 40k itself has very little depth in it's construct. All we get told is GRIMDARK however that is bland as heck, it's now getting to the point where chaos is becoming almost like a freedom fighter of twisted sorts. But I do believe I am getting on a faltering tangent. The sword indeed would actually be sentient (it is his soul after all). As for the inquistion, it's more I'm a little ticked off with th idea of the inquistion because if one chapter refuses to aid an inquisitor (which I can clearly state now: all chapters can and some do I believe) they get all annoyed. I mean if it were a war against chaos then I would wager they would of joined in without permission ether way but for some vague relic I do question. It's part of something else I want to put into my chapter, a rather deep hatred for the inquistions methods along with majority of the imperial guards (target redundancy basicly en mass) and thus they have very little care for any inquisitor. I mean a chapter of space marines isn't something you can easily destroy: they would wipe out a sizable fleet of ships and easily kill armies with no problem. I just want my chapter to have that slight touch of hatred for the inquistion (as in if an inquisitor tells them to leave a planet without explaination they won't) so there would be tensions between the two factions. To be honest I just want a unique chapter with more than just a few minor details, I want some form of conflict all over them. Conflict among them about the chapter master (since I plan on making him somewhat vague in his purity to them who has survived for sometime now with several rumour about him), conflict with inquistion questioning their rather stubborn nature against them, conflict with several of their members suffering from chaos since they fight it quite a bit. I might rename them AGAIN to something else...but I ain't sure. As it stands my chapter name is in limbo about archangel after changing from 454 guard. Any ideas throw them out but I do want my chapter to be rather...almost teenager like towards the inquistion (however not that they are young, I based their founding roughly after the age of apotasy) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2435150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaplainMathreyn Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 The sword indeed would actually be sentient (it is his soul after all). You're gonna have one dickens of a time explaining that... I'm thinking the Only times something like that happens is: 1. An ancient, large (ala Land Raider, or Titan) vehicle with a "machine spirit", that provides a very stupid AI, or 2. The dang thing is possessed by Chaos... Which can pretty much do darn well Anything... I mean a chapter of space marines isn't something you can easily destroy Actually, I think they'd be generally disgustingly easy... You'd be foolish to try and do so in a stand-up fight, but in terms of genetics and equipment, I think the Space Marines are pretty reliant on others to survive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2435974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Might it be a blade with an Eldar Soul-stone? After all - nifty sword, cuts through metal like butter AND helps the wielder (master crafterd power sword? Relic blade?) - it could perhaps be an wraitbone artefact - I am sure that this wouldn't lead to "extermintaion" by the Inquisition unless they decided to investigate EVERY Chapter Master wielding strange/ potentially alien artefacts (Gauntlets? Morkai?). maybe because the sword contains, say, the soul of an Aspect warrior hero, there could be some strange interplay - the sword guides its user, even against other Eldar, and especially against teh enemies of the Eldar race - Dark Eldar and orks, but only the Chapter master ever know about it as the Aspect Warrior could be only tapped after teh Chapter Master has become "reliant" on his new weapon... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2436645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Oh Lordy this is a pickle But If the =I= wanted to make your chapter go bye bye it is really easy all he needs to do is label you traitor or renagade and boom every other chapter is going to be looking for your blood. Also the soul stone thing would still do something like ruffle the feathers of the Inq and you would also have eldar en masse hunting you down and I have to say If you have a craftworld coming over to re aquire their soul stone, and besides that it would have to go through HEAPs of examination by the admech. But for anybody who uses any Xeno/Chaos gear you are all FILTHY HERETICS AND DESERVE THE EMPERORS WRATH lol jks :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203419-one-off-weapon-idea/#findComment-2439544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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