Dryad Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I play a Gunnar Redmoon lists where all 3 Heavy Slots are used for Long Fangs. I am expanding to 2000 points and want to encorporate a Land Raider. So, the first question is, can I buy a Land Raider as a dedicated transport given that my "pack" is all split up as pack leaders in other squads? I would assume I can. They are still a "pack" of Wolf Guard, they are just split up, hence, I can buy a Land Raider because I purchased Wolf Guard. So given this, legally, the Land Raider would have to just simply start on the board as empty. Then, I could start a unit of Blood Claws on the board beside the Land Raider and have them hop in on turn 1. Does this scenario play out legally? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerwulf Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 yes, sounds completely legal to me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2427796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Yes it does. The unit cannot start the game inside another unit's dedicated transport, and it is ok for You to deploy the whole WG pack as You wish. However, if You buy the LR as the HS choice (which I doubt You will because of tight FOC :tu: ), then the blood claws may start the game inside of it, even if it is not their transport - what matters here is that, like I said, it's not another unit's dedicated transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2427797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Yup, that works. Just remember though, You really need to be careful about where you place your claws - If your opponent gets first turn you're giving him quite a good chance of causing some decent damage to the squad. Also, remember that If he causes a morale check on the claws, unless they are joined by a wolf guard or character they are running away on a 9+. Odds are, they'll run right off the board if you roll badly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2428076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryad Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 Yup, that works. Just remember though, You really need to be careful about where you place your claws - If your opponent gets first turn you're giving him quite a good chance of causing some decent damage to the squad. Also, remember that If he causes a morale check on the claws, unless they are joined by a wolf guard or character they are running away on a 9+. Odds are, they'll run right off the board if you roll badly. Those Claws will have a Wolf Priest with them. Thanks for the replies, I just wanted to make sure that my train of thought wouldn't be met with any rules related criticism. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2429393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 However, if You buy the LR as the HS choice (which I doubt You will because of tight FOC ), then the blood claws may start the game inside of it, even if it is not their transport - what matters here is that, like I said, it's not another unit's dedicated transport. Is there a rule that I am not aware of that allows a unit to deploy embarked into a non dedicated transport. If so can you start them embarked in reserves? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2429437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 any infantry unit can deploy in a vehicle with a transport capacity as long as it isnt somone elses dedicated transport. yes you can start them deployed in it in reserve. i say infantry because there are few vehicles that allow any other type to be transported. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2429465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I thought if a Unit bought a vehicle as a dedicated transport, then they had to ride in it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2429715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 a unit is never required to start in a vehicle, dedicated transport or otherwise, its entirely your choice. the only stipulation is that the only unit that can start the game inside a dedicated transport is the unit it was purchased for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2429769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshrug Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I thought if a Unit bought a vehicle as a dedicated transport, then they had to ride in it? Dedicated transports were changed pretty drastically between 4th and 5th Edition. The new rules are much more flexible - in 4th, the only thing that could ride in a Dedicated Transport was the unit it was bought alongside. -Stormshrug Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2430026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I happen to like Crusaders for my Blood Claws and your Standard Landraider (lascannons) for my Greyhunters. That way either one can pretty much button up until I choose to deploy them and do something nasty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2430290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryad Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 I happen to like Crusaders for my Blood Claws and your Standard Landraider (lascannons) for my Greyhunters. That way either one can pretty much button up until I choose to deploy them and do something nasty. Ya, I'm looking at a Crusader. I will rarely ever play 2000 point games, so the unit is kind of a "just for fun" unit. It totals 893 points, lol. -Gunnar Redmoon (TDA, Frost Axe, SS, Necklace, Talisman, Saga of the Bear) -Ulrik -WG with Thunderhammer -12 Blood Claws -LRC with Extra Armor My 1700 point list is far more competitive and flexible and I would never think of dropping a unit like this on the board. But like I said, for those rare 2000 point game... why not, eh? Basically just an excuse to get Gunnar on the field to have some victory ale with all the Long Fangs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203647-wolf-guards-land-raider/#findComment-2430682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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