Chengar Qordath Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I've been reading through the Horus Heresy books, and I have to say I find the idea behind the Sisters of Silence fairly intriguing. Unfortunately, from what I have been able to determine, there is nothing definitive from GW about what happened to them between the Heresy and the 41st Millenium. Did I overlook some important piece of fluff, or is this just something that has not been answered yet? The Sisters of Battle seem to be the spiritual successors to the Sisters of Silence (both all-female organizations in power armor that spend a lot of time hunting psykers) but was there ever any connection between the two organizations? Depending on those answers, would it be a an issue fluff-wise to have, say, a Sisters of Silence-esque special unit/character in a Sororitas army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Officially, there's been no comment. Just like there's no comment on the origins of the order called the Daughters of the Emperor or why there was an all woman order of warriors on some forgotten planet rediscovered by Vandire. Personally I think the connections are highly suspicious, just like the complete lack of mention of the Sisters of Silence is also highly suspicious in all fluff that has come out after their introduction or revelation in the Horus Heresy series... I once sent an email to the Black Library asking about that as well as the origins of the Inquisition, along the lines of "I'll even take an answer of 'watch this series of books' " or something (hard to remember now) and the advice was to keep up with the Horus Heresy books and audiobooks. Sooo.. yeah, if it's coming, it's not been announced in anything I've seen or read yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2428479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Probably nothing. They used to work in the Black Ships, and since there's no substancial proof that they aren't still doing that, can they certainly still be doing that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2428558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 They've also never once been mentioned in modern fluff of the Black Ships, while the Inquisition and Sisters of Battle Have. I think their ommission is worth more than the assumption they're still there. If they were still there, ONE of the various writers of the Black Library aught to have said something. The fact they all intentionally don't says something else is coming to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2428564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 They've also never once been mentioned in modern fluff of the Black Ships, while the Inquisition and Sisters of Battle Have. I think their ommission is worth more than the assumption they're still there. If they were still there, ONE of the various writers of the Black Library aught to have said something. The fact they all intentionally don't says something else is coming to me. I don't really agree - the SoS had 2 major roles in Black Ships: null the psykers with their pariah genes, and guard the ship itself. The only mentions on BL on SoBs doing the 2nd role are very sparse, and come from dubious sources. And If the SoS aren't still on the 1st role, how those ships can work? I believe that they are in a smaller number now, relegated in key positions of those ships, to spread their pariah area of effect as needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2428573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Or the Inquisitors themselves protect the ship along with the psychically protected Sisters of Battle... :unsure: If there's no specific mention of them it would be hubris to assume we ourselves know the answer. We must take the evidence we are directly given, which is in the modern era there is no mention of the Sisters of Silence, ergo the simplest solution is that they aren't there until we are told otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2428588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Or the Inquisitors themselves protect the ship along with the psychically protected Sisters of Battle... :unsure: If there's no specific mention of them it would be hubris to assume we ourselves know the answer. We must take the evidence we are directly given, which is in the modern era there is no mention of the Sisters of Silence, ergo the simplest solution is that they aren't there until we are told otherwise. Why kill what is not dead? I believe the exact oposite approach: if there's no mention of them ceasing to exist, we can safely assume they still exist. The custodes don't travel the galaxy anymore, but they are there. I don't see any reason to believe that's any different with the SoS. Whey would be a very rare sight indeed, but they can easily still be there ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2428593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronTuman Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Sisters of Silence, What ever happened to them anyway? Nobody's heard.... Sorry.... I really just couldn't let the straight line go like that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2428803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Sisters of Silence were a militiant arm of Adepta Astra Telepathica. There was an edict or something like this, that said "AAT is not allowed to guard their own ships from now on." I've read it somewhere, not sure where. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2428916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Officially, there's been no comment. Just like there's no comment on the origins of the order called the Daughters of the Emperor or why there was an all woman order of warriors on some forgotten planet rediscovered by Vandire. Personally I think the connections are highly suspicious, just like the complete lack of mention of the Sisters of Silence is also highly suspicious in all fluff that has come out after their introduction or revelation in the Horus Heresy series... I never thought of it before, but the idea that the Sisters of Battle were actually some sort of development from the Sisters of Silence is rather intriguing. It is rather odd that the Sisters of Battle emerged so quickly and so well-equipped. I have to agree that odds are the SoS are no longer present at the current timeline, because otherwise they would be putting in appearances at some point. If the Inquisition had an army of highly trained and well-equipped untouchables, then they surely would have turned up at some point in the fluff given how much trouble psykers and the Warp causes for the Inquisition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2433836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Rik Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 They've also never once been mentioned in modern fluff of the Black Ships, while the Inquisition and Sisters of Battle Have. I think their ommission is worth more than the assumption they're still there. If they were still there, ONE of the various writers of the Black Library aught to have said something. The fact they all intentionally don't says something else is coming to me. Has anyone considered that they were first created in the Horus Heresy novels? I pose thee this: There is no fluff for them or any other background in the past, because no-one had thought of them before and the Horus Heresy author who first wrote about them created them for his book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2433841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishoujo Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 It is rather odd that the Sisters of Battle emerged so quickly and so well-equipped. Not sure I agree with that logic personally. When the SoB were the Brides of the Emperor, they were basically Vandire's personal army. If I recall correctly, Vandire was pulling double-duty on the High Lords of Terra by holding both the positions of Master of the Administratum and Ecclesiarch - basically making him the most powerful man in the Imperium. I imagine that getting equipment wasn't particularly difficult with that kind of backing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2434422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodwynDi Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Without anything concrete I can't really state this as more than opinion, but I have always seen a link between the SoB and the SoS. The anti-witch/psyker theme runs strong in both of them, and SoB are often said to work the black ships. While clearly every SoB is not an untouchable, it is certain that they had to have met and had dealing with each other at some point, unless the SoS actually no longer exist. And from a purely rules standpoint Shield of Faith does make sisters the best bet for a custom SoS force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203700-sisters-of-silence/#findComment-2440273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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