Blakdog Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Here is the link for my rough draft of the Nova Wolves IA and fluff, but I need some serious help. What else should be included? How much should I write? What are my limitations? Any feedback would be nice. So read it, tell me what could be changed added or revised. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Miles Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Hey, noob at the whole DIY thing myself but I'll try and throw out a few things that leapt out at me. I think the idea that the nova's split off because of a wounding to their honor is really cool, but Im not sure the inquisition would use them as cannon fodder. I mean space marines are rare and valuable, so valuable that the inquisition only mind-wipes the space marines they feel might have had too close a call with chaos whereas they would just kill any normal human. I think the inquisition can still be the source of the companies dishonor but it has to be much more in depth. Other then that the only problem I thought might arise is that 100 or so space wolves isnt enough to really start a new chapter, if I recall right a new chapter typically starts out with two or three companies of scouts led by vets. So you have to explain how the chapter gained its numbers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/#findComment-2429895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakdog Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I thought my post was being ignored! I will keep all of that to heart and will make sure to make the edits soon. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/#findComment-2429968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brothercantor Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 very good for a noob. i like the whole cannon fodder thing except about the royal inquisition they wouldnt use space marines like that. also add more about how many there are left and add some about where you can usually find them operating ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/#findComment-2429986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakdog Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 All right! Slightly updated edition. Click on the link above to see it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/#findComment-2430896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund Himself Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Welcome to the Liber and the B&C :) They broke off from the chapter after being taken advantage of by the inquisition. They were called upon to support the imperial forces and then were betrayed. As the Great Company closed with the enemy, the imperial guard fell back and the grey knights and inquisitors broke off to pursue another objective leaving the Great Company with an open flank. The enemy took the opportunity to bring heavy tanks and armor to bear against the Great Company and then after discharging a massive barrage the tanks rammed the Great Company any marines in the way were torn to shreds (or were already decimated from the guns of the tanks) and their wolf lord, Kormak, was found barely alive with most of his body torn to shreds. I would make it a bit more personal. Not sure exactly how, but maybe the Wolves are fighting in a corrupted hive (or any place really) with the Inquisitor's personal army holding the gates while the Wolves and the Inquisitor push onwards towards the objective. Once the Inquisitor gets it, he flees, taking his army with him and leaving the Wolves surrounded against the baying hordes of traitor/xenos/heretics/your choice of gribbly things. I think it really works better if it's more personal with the Inquisitor, though this is just my thought :) Kormak wished to not be sealed in a dreadnought and instead, the company's servitors and iron wolves Iron Priests? Kormak Cyberwolf took this moment to swear an oath to avenge his fallen comrades and he swore an oath to return to the chapter with his oath fulfilled. Kormak and his great company left the Space Wolves and became the Nova Wolves. I think you could clarify here why they left the chapter rather than continue as a Great Company. What I get from reading this is that they had to leave the chapter in order to pursue vengeance against the Inquisitor as the Great Wolf couldn't officially let members of his chapter hunt down Inquisitors. If this was your intent, I'd spell it out a bit more clearly :) Also, Cyberwolf is a bit of an unsubtle name IMO. Perhaps something like Steellimbs, Irongfang or something along those lines would sound better? Rather than to let their candidates fight out over who will be admitted into the chapter, The Nova Wolves believe that the candidates should do battle with them as this not only removes the weak ones, but it also removes those who don't have the stomach to be space marines. Nice. After 100 years of scouring the stars for recruits, the Nova Wolves had become a true chapter. The Nova Wolves have 9 Great company's, each with at least one drednaught, one scout squad and various other squads. The Nova Wolves now number around 900 marines but most of them are not from their true homeland, Fenris. All of them do have the fire of Fenris in their hearts as the gene seed of Leman Russ is within them. They all have a burning desire to return to Fenris and to look upon the Fang in all it's glory. This bit is the only bad bit you've got so far. A lone Grand Company does not have the ability to make a chapter. It doesn't have the geneseed to do so and I can't see the Wolves handing over enough to make a whole new chapter. I would make it that they were originally a large Great Company (200 odd) and then as the millennia has passed, their numbers have dropped through attrition but they press doggedly (no pun intended :P) forward, seeking to fulfil their oath. The part about spirants wishing to see Fenris was a nice touch. The ship of the Nova Wolves entitled, The Icebreaker. Since the beginnings the ship has received multiple additions to it's already huge bulk. The ship has been expanded with scrap metals from imperial ships and space hulks. The Nova Wolves strictly use the scraps from ships that were previously imperial and the Iron Priests have become second to none with over a century of dealing with the machine spirit of The Icebreaker. Now the ship has large forge, and enough space for the entire chapter to comfortably live in. The Icebreaker sounds like a bit of a wussy name for a ship like the only thing it's good for is beginning conversations with strangers ;) Also, why are your Iron Priests better than the Space Wolves? The Space Wolves have many many more ancient war machines than the Nova Wolves sole battlebarge. Also not sure on having such a powerful vessel as this. Kormak Cyberwolf is still a wolf lord but since their breaking off of the chapter he has appointed a chapter master who's name is Njordr. I don't particularly get this bit. A very nice concept, keep working on it :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/#findComment-2431235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Hmm. Even if a Space Wolf company splits off from the original chapter, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't change their name. They'd still be called Space Wolves, if I'm not mistaken - although you might want to ask about that on the Space Wolf Forum. The guys there most certainly know more about the subject than I do. :huh: Also bear in mind - there are officially space wolf successors (other than the wolf brothers, who died miserably) and your chapter as it stands is in fact a space wolf successor. You are going to need a darn good explanation for them, in other words. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/#findComment-2431243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Great companies splitting from the main chapter are not strictly chapters but these "lost" companies do help keep the legacy of Russ alive ad kicking (in fact they could well be ENCOURAGED by Great Wolves..) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/#findComment-2431254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espada Azul Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I'm a Codex Marine player myself, but I've lurked around the Space Wolves subforum long enough to learn that Space Wolves don't have Successors; instead, they have Lost/Lone Companies, but even then they're still Space Wolves, meaning they retain Space Wolf heraldry, colors, and traditions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/203775-nova-wolves-rough-draft-of-fluff-and-ia/#findComment-2431376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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