Metallic red models

[Fysh]

I'm thinking of painting my gold figures with a red wash and I'm curious as to if anyone else has tried it before? I'm pretty sure I remember reading a post about someone giving it a go, but I couldn't find any.

 

Please post pics of your minis if possible!

 

Thanks guys

[SnorriSnorrison]

One wash won´t be enough, I am afraid.

Baal Red, for example, has a pinkish appearance, and you´d need several layers to get a darker finish.

 

Then, gold is not the perfect foundation for red, and if you wash your gold minis with Baal Red, they´ll probably have a copper tone.

 

I am sorry, but no pics. I´ve never tried this before, this is just my assumption.

 

 

Snorri

[angel of justice]

I would test it on a peace of sprue before you do it to a miniature, Red ink over burnished gold after a few layers produces a very nice effect but you need to let each layer dry properly and be careful with it, i haven't tried it with washes yet.

[Fysh]

I think you may be right Snorri, this is what I was worried about. I think it would look great if done right, I personally don't like the pure gold look and I would like to try something a bit different.

 

Perhaps if I try as Angel mentions and use a few coats it'll get bit further from the pink. What was the difference between the old ink and the current washes? I have a black ink, but not a red unfortunately.

 

Actually thinking on it I wonder if perhaps a silver base would be a better choice

[wookielips]

my recommendation is to make your own washes.

 

mix baal red with black, i'd say 2:1 red:black, get a deep maroon you like, then mix that paint with 3 or 4 parts water:paint. i'd do a test (read:trash) mini first, the thinner the wash the more coats you need, but the more subtle the effect you get.

[SnorriSnorrison]

Perhaps if I try as Angel mentions and use a few coats it'll get bit further from the pink. What was the difference between the old ink and the current washes? I have a black ink, but not a red unfortunately.

 

Actually thinking on it I wonder if perhaps a silver base would be a better choice

 

 

1. Well, the old inks are not water-resistant, so if paint over a layer of ink with a quite small amount of water in your paint, the inks will flow away with the water.

Aditionally, the washes give you a matte finish, which inks don´t. Very useful for tabletop miniatures, or quick painting.

 

2. If you want to paint red over metallics(which I wouldn´t advise) then it is better to use silver than gold - but mix your washes with black to get the deep red tone without applying 10 washes. Badab Black and Baal Red should do fine, the combination of the two is a miracle to me as well, so better ask somebody with more experience on this specific topic. :P

 

 

 

Snorri

 

 

Edit:

Ninja´d by wookielips on no. 2...

[Fysh]

Thanks guys I'll look into seeing how some of these ideas work and perhaps even post some of the results if I get off my butt!

[Chaplain Hiltraud]

I've tried red wash on gold and it came out a treat! Like a nice rose gold. I can't remember if I used devlan mud before or after the baal red but either way I do recall putting about 2-3 layers of baal red. I've also tried working from a silver base with the washes but after about 4-5 coats of baal red it ended up looking something that would be suitable for a slaanesh marine, it came out a pink sort of colour and not red at all. However, asurman blue wash over silver looks great...

 

Personally, I use devlan mud (and thraka green in the recesses) on my gold. This technique gives a very old feel to the armour...

 

Yours in Honour and Faith,

Chaplain Hiltraud

[Terminatorinhell]

What I would do is base Boltgun Metal, then wash with devlan mud then 3-4 washes of baal red. Should give a nice red.