Lamenters Sangunary Guard Painting Question

[Autarch-Andrew]

Now I Know that I would be easier if I just played Blood Angels or anyone of there Red Successors.But I dont like red at all and seeing an ocean of red models running up the field is just ^_^ to me.But I plan on starting blood angels because as an eldar player the eldar codex is dated.So I have decided to change to blood angels and I love lamenters because I like there fluff for some odd reason.but back to subject what color should I paint my sanguinary guard should I do the traditional gold or something else.what would make them pop when I judge walks over to judge my army etc?,And what colors are you lamenters players painting your sanguinary guard?

[Vash113]

Well according to the Codex they should be gold, with the standard Lamentors yellow on the shoulder pad insets. I suppose you could paint the Jump Packs yellow as well to try and spread the color out some.

 

The Lamentors also use a bit of checkerboard, you could perhaps paint the feathers of the wings in a checkerboard pattern but that might just look annoying.

[Mattsama]

What Vash said. There is a page in the codex that says all the successors except the Angels Encarmine IIRC use standard colors for both their DC and SG. AE use white for both these units.

[SamaNagol]

Strictly speaking, Lamenters have no Sanguinary Guard or Death Company.

 

But if they did in your world, they would be gold and black respectively.

[igotsmeakabob!!]

Strictly speaking, Lamenters have no Sanguinary Guard or Death Company.

 

But if they did in your world, they would be gold and black respectively.

No Death Company, true.

Why no Sanguinary Guard? They're still a BA successor, albeit one sans Flaw.

[SamaNagol]

They do not recognise themselves to be a BA successor and don't follow any of their combat doctrine.

[Vash113]

They do not recognise themselves to be a BA successor and don't follow any of their combat doctrine.

 

Well I'd say since now they are listed in the Blood Angels Codex as a successor that it seems like the older material is somewhat defunct. Especially as they reported "curing the flaw" then they'd have to acknowledge the fact that they are a Blood Angels Successor.

 

Besides, maybe they call them Honor Guard instead of Sanguinary Guard and call their Honor Guard Command Squads or whatever, still no reason they wouldn't have a bunch of elite heroes of one kind or another.

[SamaNagol]

As I said, can have whatever he likes in his army.

 

But in the background as it exists, they are well distanced from the BA, don't follow their combat doctrine and didn't even answer the BA call for help when the Baal system was under attack.

[igotsmeakabob!!]

As I said, can have whatever he likes in his army.

 

But in the background as it exists, they are well distanced from the BA, don't follow their combat doctrine and didn't even answer the BA call for help when the Baal system was under attack.

Saying "can have whatever he likes in his army" is inferring that putting Sanguinary Guard in a Lamenters force isn't fluff.

 

I have yet to see any contradiction to the idea that they would have Sanguinary Guard. Where does it say that they have a different combat doctrine? That they don't have Baal Predators? Was it older fluff (Index Astartes maybe?)

 

They still owe their geneseed to Sanguinius, I assume enjoy flight, and the only thing (AFAIK) that they wouldn't have are the Death Co.

[SnorriSnorrison]

I think SamaNagol has it right.

 

The Lamenters are linked to the Blood Angels by their blood, but nothing else really. And if I remember that correctly, they are strictly codex-adherent, as they don´t have the flaw and are a chapter founded by using the geneseed of two chapters, and therefore do not need to field a DC. That was written on the GW website if I am not mistaken, or somewhere else - maybe even lexicanum.

 

So, I´d doubt that the Lamenters field Baal Predators, Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinary Priests and all that. But that´s just me, of course the OP can use any models/codex he wants for his army.

 

 

Snorri

[SamaNagol]

In their Index Astartes article it says they adhere to the Codex Astartes.

[Walter Payton]

Personally, I would model Sanguinary Guard, but play them as vanilla Honour Guard w/ Jump Packs or Vanguard Veterans.

[SamaNagol]

Sure, there's NO reason not to have ornate honour guard and such. I would leave off the wings though.

[Feuermann]

I remember that lamenters have the cursed knights, so you can use the SG rules and models but name them cursed knights

[Lestat]

Back to the original post, I would suggest that you use yellow and the black/white checkerboard as spot colours to break up the gold a bit. For example, the knee-pads might be a good place for the checks - especially those knees that already appear to be quartered. The blade of the weapons could be painted using yellow, or at least working up to a yellow highlight and maybe starting with red or orange. Details like purity seals and such could also be picked out in yellow.

 

Hope those few suggestions prove to be helpfull.

[Walter Payton]

I remember that lamenters have the cursed knights, so you can use the SG rules and models but name them cursed knights

 

That's BOLS fluff as far as I know, not actual GW canon.

[punkfish]

I remember that lamenters have the cursed knights, so you can use the SG rules and models but name them cursed knights

 

That's BOLS fluff as far as I know, not actual GW canon.

 

It's in the Index Astartes 21st Founding article - so looks like GW canon to me.