ragnor of the iron wolf Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 okay maybe i suck at searching or maybe im smoking crack, in the new codex it seems like you can run a squad of straight wolf guard, can this be done and if so has anyone had any luck or tryed this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
molsonbeagle Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Heck yah it works! I used to truck my wolf lord with 2x frost blades with a squad of assault termies (2x wolf claws, thunder/ss, thunder, pf/sb, pw/sb) they were pretty gnarly. I would regularly just eat up whole squads. They can be taken out by big things which is what made me stop using them, because once they started dropping you just watched your points on the table decrease by the 80s it was saddening, but really really fun. for even more fun, throw em in a LR and just storm up to something, spit em out, and annihilate something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2433639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 okay maybe i suck at searching or maybe im smoking crack, in the new codex it seems like you can run a squad of straight wolf guard, can this be done and if so has anyone had any luck or tryed this Yes you can do it. Yes it makes an expensive but dead hard deathstar unit. The variation I did was 8 wolf guard with Plasma pistol and powersword,and put the 2 heavy weapons with my long fangs with cyclones. You can also kit them out in Terminator armor and use them as you would any other group of terms. It can be spendy but it is doable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2433640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I don't understand the term, 'straight' wolf guard... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2433644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnor of the iron wolf Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 by straight i ment just wolf guard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2433655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
molsonbeagle Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I don't understand the term, 'straight' wolf guard... I believe he means instead of splitting them off to lead packs of huntes/claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2433661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Grimfang Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Leave them as Power Armoured. Give them all combi-bolters of some sort and they can act as a sort of Stern-Guard type unit. Or give them a mix of PW, PF, LC's, TH's. Close combat monsters. But my optimal load out is just a pack of 10 with BP's and PW's. One guy will have a PF and Storm Bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2433897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Heck yah it works! I used to truck my wolf lord with 2x frost blades with a squad of assault termies (2x wolf claws, thunder/ss, thunder, pf/sb, pw/sb) they were pretty gnarly. I would regularly just eat up whole squads. They can be taken out by big things which is what made me stop using them, because once they started dropping you just watched your points on the table decrease by the 80s it was saddening, but really really fun. for even more fun, throw em in a LR and just storm up to something, spit em out, and annihilate something. Little off topic but why did you use 2 frost blades on your WL? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacho Wolf Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Yeah you can certainly do this and, like people have said, it makes for a great, but expensive, death star unit. on a related topic, I'm pretty sure you can give them all the mark of the wulfen and make wulfen squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guganation Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Heck yah it works! I used to truck my wolf lord with 2x frost blades with a squad of assault termies (2x wolf claws, thunder/ss, thunder, pf/sb, pw/sb) they were pretty gnarly. I would regularly just eat up whole squads. They can be taken out by big things which is what made me stop using them, because once they started dropping you just watched your points on the table decrease by the 80s it was saddening, but really really fun. for even more fun, throw em in a LR and just storm up to something, spit em out, and annihilate something. Little off topic but why did you use 2 frost blades on your WL? Needs 2 special CC weapons to get the extra attack. Expensive, but effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolishzero Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Heck yah it works! I used to truck my wolf lord with 2x frost blades with a squad of assault termies (2x wolf claws, thunder/ss, thunder, pf/sb, pw/sb) they were pretty gnarly. I would regularly just eat up whole squads. They can be taken out by big things which is what made me stop using them, because once they started dropping you just watched your points on the table decrease by the 80s it was saddening, but really really fun. for even more fun, throw em in a LR and just storm up to something, spit em out, and annihilate something. Little off topic but why did you use 2 frost blades on your WL? Needs 2 special CC weapons to get the extra attack. Expensive, but effective. That's only for wolf claws, power fists, and thunderhammers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeye Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I use a sqd of wolf guard x 10 with SS & FW Ragnar Redmane. Wolf Guard Battle leader SS & FW. In a Redeemer. Very Very expensive but great fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeddon Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Heck yah it works! I used to truck my wolf lord with 2x frost blades with a squad of assault termies (2x wolf claws, thunder/ss, thunder, pf/sb, pw/sb) they were pretty gnarly. I would regularly just eat up whole squads. They can be taken out by big things which is what made me stop using them, because once they started dropping you just watched your points on the table decrease by the 80s it was saddening, but really really fun. for even more fun, throw em in a LR and just storm up to something, spit em out, and annihilate something. Little off topic but why did you use 2 frost blades on your WL? Needs 2 special CC weapons to get the extra attack. Expensive, but effective. That's only for wolf claws, power fists, and thunderhammers This is correct. All that you need to get an extra attack with a Frost Blade is a Bolt Pistol (if you're in Power Armour or Runic Armour) or a Power Weapon (if in TDA). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Caleb Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 The variation I did was 8 wolf guard with Plasma pistol and powersword,and put the 2 heavy weapons with my long fangs with cyclones. I thought you only got the option for the second heavy if you had a full pack of 10. "For every five Wolf Guard, one can choose..." Did I misunderstand? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 on a related topic, I'm pretty sure you can give them all the mark of the wulfen and make wulfen squads. No, no you can't sadly. Only 1 model from any squad can have MotW, but we can still tool them up quite fancily and make them fearsome in another way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2Jack1 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 The variation I did was 8 wolf guard with Plasma pistol and powersword,and put the 2 heavy weapons with my long fangs with cyclones. I thought you only got the option for the second heavy if you had a full pack of 10. "For every five Wolf Guard, one can choose..." Did I misunderstand? I believe hes buying a pak of 10 so he can meet the heavy requirements. I was lead to believe the WG could be distributed wherever we saw fit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2434733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Caleb Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 The variation I did was 8 wolf guard with Plasma pistol and powersword,and put the 2 heavy weapons with my long fangs with cyclones. I thought you only got the option for the second heavy if you had a full pack of 10. "For every five Wolf Guard, one can choose..." Did I misunderstand? I believe hes buying a pak of 10 so he can meet the heavy requirements. I was lead to believe the WG could be distributed wherever we saw fit? Oh...I see now. I was reading 8 total with 2 heavies, not 8 plus 2 heavies. *Best Dr. Claw voice* You win this time, ambiguity. This time... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2435001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
molsonbeagle Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Heck yah it works! I used to truck my wolf lord with 2x frost blades with a squad of assault termies (2x wolf claws, thunder/ss, thunder, pf/sb, pw/sb) they were pretty gnarly. I would regularly just eat up whole squads. They can be taken out by big things which is what made me stop using them, because once they started dropping you just watched your points on the table decrease by the 80s it was saddening, but really really fun. for even more fun, throw em in a LR and just storm up to something, spit em out, and annihilate something. Little off topic but why did you use 2 frost blades on your WL? Needs 2 special CC weapons to get the extra attack. Expensive, but effective. That's only for wolf claws, power fists, and thunderhammers This is correct. All that you need to get an extra attack with a Frost Blade is a Bolt Pistol (if you're in Power Armour or Runic Armour) or a Power Weapon (if in TDA). The truth is, the reason I give him 2 frost blades is because I modelled him with two blades, since I think it looks really cool. I think if he were to get the other attack it would have to be a bolt pistol, not a CCW. Since i liked the way the model looked I kept it at 2 frost blades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2435111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Caleb Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Heck yah it works! I used to truck my wolf lord with 2x frost blades with a squad of assault termies (2x wolf claws, thunder/ss, thunder, pf/sb, pw/sb) they were pretty gnarly. I would regularly just eat up whole squads. They can be taken out by big things which is what made me stop using them, because once they started dropping you just watched your points on the table decrease by the 80s it was saddening, but really really fun. for even more fun, throw em in a LR and just storm up to something, spit em out, and annihilate something. Little off topic but why did you use 2 frost blades on your WL? Needs 2 special CC weapons to get the extra attack. Expensive, but effective. That's only for wolf claws, power fists, and thunderhammers This is correct. All that you need to get an extra attack with a Frost Blade is a Bolt Pistol (if you're in Power Armour or Runic Armour) or a Power Weapon (if in TDA). The truth is, the reason I give him 2 frost blades is because I modelled him with two blades, since I think it looks really cool. I think if he were to get the other attack it would have to be a bolt pistol, not a CCW. Since i liked the way the model looked I kept it at 2 frost blades. You would get the benefit of a single frost blade on every attack. You don't need to spend the points on it. Though, I completely understand the modeling decision. Kudos for being willing to take the points to play your mac model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2435151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 This is correct. All that you need to get an extra attack with a Frost Blade is a Bolt Pistol (if you're in Power Armour or Runic Armour) or a Power Weapon (if in TDA). Actually to gain the bonus in TDA you would need a second frost blade. Having a normal power weapon and frost blade would result in '2 Different Special Combat Weapons' which states that you do not recieve a bonus attack as it is complicated wielding two different weapons effectively. But yes, in power armour and Runic Armour the Frost Blade is a single handed close combat weapon and so having a bolt pistol would give you another attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2435624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 This is correct. All that you need to get an extra attack with a Frost Blade is a Bolt Pistol (if you're in Power Armour or Runic Armour) or a Power Weapon (if in TDA). Actually to gain the bonus in TDA you would need a second frost blade. Having a normal power weapon and frost blade would result in '2 Different Special Combat Weapons' which states that you do not recieve a bonus attack as it is complicated wielding two different weapons effectively. But yes, in power armour and Runic Armour the Frost Blade is a single handed close combat weapon and so having a bolt pistol would give you another attack. I don't think so, for a frost blade counts as a power weapon. Right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2435638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2Jack1 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 The variation I did was 8 wolf guard with Plasma pistol and powersword,and put the 2 heavy weapons with my long fangs with cyclones. I thought you only got the option for the second heavy if you had a full pack of 10. "For every five Wolf Guard, one can choose..." Did I misunderstand? I believe hes buying a pak of 10 so he can meet the heavy requirements. I was lead to believe the WG could be distributed wherever we saw fit? Oh...I see now. I was reading 8 total with 2 heavies, not 8 plus 2 heavies. *Best Dr. Claw voice* You win this time, ambiguity. This time... It was probably the thunderstorms outside that distracted you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2435652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Nope. It is its own separate entry. You need a 2nd Frost Blade to gain the extra attack in TDA. However, the FAQ makes it very clear you do not get that extra "oomph" for having the 2nd copy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2435664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 For real punch, try 9 x WG, each with plas pistol and W Claw accompanied by a Wolf Priest with infantry as the preferred enemy. Rerolls to hit and rerolls to wound. For even more pricey punch, exchange a W Gd for Ragnar. Furious charge, extra attacks and rerolls to hit 9for Ragnar too) and rerolls to wound. The whole unit fits in a rhino. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204109-wolf-guard-squad/#findComment-2438562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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