Godhead Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The title pretty much asks the question. Has anyone experienced problems with the wording when building a list? I tried searching to see if this was up somewhere else, but I seemed to come up with every mention of the word landspeeder in this forum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 you can have all three in the squadron have it. (looked in both codex('s?) and saw no restrictions) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Actually, its only a a single speeder per squadron. The reason for this is as follows: in C:SM it states that "any land speeder may be upgraded" to a typhoon for 40 points. in C:SW however it states that "alternatively, a land speeder may be upgraded to a land speeder typhoon" the way this is worded means that while in C:SM you can have up to 3 typhoons in a squadron, in C:SW you can have only a single typhoon per squadron. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 sounds like your just being picky on the other hand it is saying A land speeder may be upgraded to a land speeder typhoon rather than ONE land speeder may be upgraded to a land speeder typhoon for example if i say "a space wolf can grow a beard" it does not mean that "one space wolf can grow a beard" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotspur Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 sounds like your just being picky on the other hand it is saying A land speeder may be upgraded to a land speeder typhoon rather than ONE land speeder may be upgraded to a land speeder typhoon for example if i say "a space wolf can grow a beard" it does not mean that "one space wolf can grow a beard" True. I've fielded full squadrons of Typhoons many times, and no one has seemed to mind. Even the schiestiest of rules lawyers at the LGS where I used to play didn't say anything. I say, sit down, relax, and have some ale Tograth! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenxis Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Actually, its only a a single speeder per squadron. The reason for this is as follows: in C:SM it states that "any land speeder may be upgraded" to a typhoon for 40 points. in C:SW however it states that "alternatively, a land speeder may be upgraded to a land speeder typhoon" the way this is worded means that while in C:SM you can have up to 3 typhoons in a squadron, in C:SW you can have only a single typhoon per squadron. Right (I 2nd what wiplash wrote) Now, a layman looking at the rulebook would wonder why the typhoon missile launcher is listed separately from the 4 tornado upgrade options. There's actually no good reason, it's only for historical naming purposes that these are split out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Corwin Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 As stated, if you could only have one per squadron it would say ONE not A. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godhead Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 Great, thanks for the responses. Makes it easier to give GW some more of my cash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonslayer Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I always thought you could only have one. I'm happy now as instead of taking up 2-3 Fast attack slots for missile madness, I can take 1 for better missile madness or dare I say it 3. Maybe with some whirlwinds and Long Fangs for complete bombardment Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha................................... *Wakes up in a padded white room* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverfire Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 What are the benefits for using squadrons? And do they outweigh the disadvantages? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilbob Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 A squad of vehicles lets them ignore stunned so they can all keep moving, but an immobilized result kills a vehicle, as the others have to leave it behind. Kinda risky, but the biggest benefit I find of LS squads is freeing up the Fast slots than I just can't get enough of with Calvary and Fen Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godhead Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 Honestly, there have really been very very very few instances where not dying due to an immobilized result on my speeders have really made a difference. (barring KP's really) Every just knows not to stand in front of my TML after that. But yea, it free's up swiftclaws or wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I believe the "alternatively" refers to the assault cannon option or the typhoon option so you don't have tornado/typhoons zipping around...in 3"s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Correct, uberwolve. Its to prevent the notion of a 140 pt tank annihilator (With 2x Multi-meltas and CML) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I just got 4 typhoons .. Im working on 3 squadrons of speeders but most of my speeders are older so I wont be building them all as typhoon. So far its 4 of the above and 3 tornado and I'm thinking about 2 speeders with multimeltas and heavy bolter? and maybe a melta for the last squadrons tornado? so 2 squadrons will get 6 heavy bolter shots 4 assault cannon shots and 4 missiles and the last will get 3 melta shots 6 heavy bolter shots and 4 assault cannon shots.. how dose that look? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Oops bubble post..akk! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Ah ok, sorry if I came off a bit abruptly folks. I had a similar argument about this in the LGS when the codex came out and got pretty vociferously smacked down about it. If I can point to folks here who say that its not one typhoon per squadron, I can use it as that as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 What are the benefits for using squadrons? And do they outweigh the disadvantages? A squadron of LS-Typhoons make a juicy target because hits and damage rolls carry over *p.64 BRB...have to allocate glancing and penetrating shots before rolling for actual damage*. For example...a predator fires sponson LCs and TL LC at LS single model. All of the shots were used to kill a single LS If that same predator fires at a squadron of 3 LS it can potentially destroy all 3 LSs They make good single model FA choices because they contribute to target saturation. If they form a squadron they move higher up the chain of target selection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204382-how-many-tml-speeders-can-you-have-in-a-squadron/#findComment-2437994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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