djoguit Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I was trying to build a soon-to-be 5 man TWC and I came with a squad like this 1 TWC w/TH and SS 1 TWC w/Frost Weapon 1 TWC w/WC 1 TWC w/PW 1 TWC w/nothing else or 1 TWC w/Frost wepon, melta bomb This one is working great for wound allocation but I'm wondering if there are better builds out there. I'm also considering they are already quite a menace without gear at a fair point cost 250. Is there anyone who has a stronger point efficient build? This one is nearly 400 points TY Djoguit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Well first of all you can only have one special close combat weapon per TW pack, which for most here is a P-fist or TH. So here is how I would do it: 1 TH 1 SS 1 SS and Meltabomb 1 Meltabomb 1 Default Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Bloodaxe Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I only use 4. SS/PF Melta Bombs MOTW Normal 265 points. I'd go up to 5 man if I was playing larger than 2000 points. The fifth guy would get a bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyson_Vore Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Personally, I just like replacing their pistols with Storm Shields, and let slip the dogs of war. It gives them durability and a screaming fire magnet for the enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godhead Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I run my 5 man as such: SS/TH SS MB Bolter Standard Then i sprinkle in my WGBL with SS/WC and 2 fen wolves. Sometimes I give a saga, sometimes I don't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Wulfen Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I was trying to build a soon-to-be 5 man TWC and I came with a squad like this 1 TWC w/TH and SS 1 TWC w/Frost Weapon 1 TWC w/WC 1 TWC w/PW 1 TWC w/nothing else or 1 TWC w/Frost wepon, melta bomb This one is working great for wound allocation but I'm wondering if there are better builds out there. I'm also considering they are already quite a menace without gear at a fair point cost 250. Is there anyone who has a stronger point efficient build? This one is nearly 400 points TY Djoguit i think u can only have one sccw Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djoguit Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Thanks guys. Somehow I feel stupid for not seeing THAT simple rule....my bad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeddon Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 No worries, though this has been discussed before. This thread might give you some ideas... http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...l=thunderwolves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenxis Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 MOTW :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 How I do it: 0. Lord - Frost Blade, Mount, Storm Shield 1. Whatever Special Weapon you Want 2. Storm Shield 3. Storm Shield + Melta Bomb 4. Regular Kit 5. Melta Bomb Three storm shields in the squad is as much as I'm willing to spend. It gives me a reasonable amount of protection from most things without breaking the bank. The melta bombs are there for wound allocation but has helped me in a pinch with AV14 bunkers we use around here. Usually, I hit about 350 points for the 5. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 At the moment I run 2 SS 5 PW 5 MB but its a points heavy unit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Nightwolf Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 At the moment I run 2 SS 5 PW 5 MB but its a points heavy unit It's illegal. Ypo may take only one special ccw... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 You live and learn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffydd Fireclaw Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Although Pricey, I generally go with the following: 1 x WL with SS, FA, TWM, WTN, WTT, Warrior Born 1 x TH & SS 4 x SS Although this unit does cost a good 680 points, it can smash anything in it's way, I actually had them cut their way through half a BA army by themselves. I find that meltabombs aren't needed as either the TH or the rending will generally deal with anything, even smashing land raiders through sheer volume of weapon destroyed and immobilised results, while the Lord's WTT gives a save against psychic abilities. The Storm Shields just add to the fun by giving you a chance to say "Ok, you cause 3 wounds with lascannon fire, I get three 3+ saves... oh, 1 failed, one of my wolves take a wound, but he's still standing" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Clinto Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I run my 5 man as such: SS/TH SS MB Bolter Standard Then i sprinkle in my WGBL with SS/WC and 2 fen wolves. Sometimes I give a saga, sometimes I don't. This is almost exactly the same way I run my TWC, but I buy a PP instead of a Bolter. Heres a question, prob dumb one at that. Why do alot of people trade out the BP for a Bolter instead of a Plasma Pistol? Is it just to save the 15 points? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexi_Aoyama Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Although Pricey, I generally go with the following: 1 x WL with SS, FA, TWM, WTN, WTT, Warrior Born 1 x TH & SS 4 x SS Although this unit does cost a good 680 points omg.. 680 points for 6 models.. thats what i call putting all your eggs in one basket. (thats 80 points per thunderwolf) yes, when played correctly, they can dish out a lot of damage (especially against elite units) Yes, they can take some as well.. but 680 points seems a little too much.. you will fail that 3+ save sometimes.. i'd love to shoot with mid strenght high rate firing at this bunch. in my preference.. take no anti tank support, since rending and S5 will do the trick against most vehicles anyway. and its not their role in the army, from my take on the game, there's long fangs and predators and wolf scouts and land speeders that kill off tanks a good as and are less costly. (maybe a th cause it will look great on the model tho) :P same for the gear.. cc's are neat, but for the same amount of points (going for the quote) you could get 2x 5 thunderwolves and the lord (even canis for all that matter (+- 5 points)) and countering 2 units is far more difficult than the one, although they go down a bit quicker.. but only a bit.. nawh.. keep m simple, they are tough as it is ;) of course it depends on the players arrayed against you.. if you have to withstand demolisher shells each game.. yes take the cc's.. :( from another viewpoint.. pick gear you're fond of. its not every game that's a tournament game and i like to look at my models and say wow, that's a nice unit without going over statistics to prove it ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godhead Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Buy the bolter because it's free. You only lose one attack, and if I am running a 5 man, it's not really missed IMO. Those 15 points saved lets me get MOTW or a PW in a GH pack. I don't know about everyone else, but my TWC just about NEVER EVER EVER EVER shoot, they always run. The extra movement lets me set up multiple charges sometimes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Bloodaxe Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 MOTW :D I lol'ed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I run the same as Lord Clinto TWC - TH, SS TWC - SS TWC - MB TWC - PP TWC - as issued 360 points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagneticFreak Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 How dearly I would like to be able to field a squad of these guys. There is just not enough points! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I've squeezed them into 1500 point armies a few times now - including some CoD games - and they have always paid for themselves. They are seemingly just too intimidating and dangerous to ignore, and as they keep your opponent's attention drawn in one direction, you can cause all sorts of mischief elsewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2437996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Well after finding out yesterday that I hadn't read the codex carefully enough Yesterday I went for a lord with SS, Frost Blade and a fenrisian Wolf SS and TH FB WC PW The thunder hammer was a right waste of points because everything else chopped through the poppa smurf and his gang before he had even swung it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2438702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastenarius Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Here is my 5 man TWC squad. - Thunder Hammer - Storm Shield - Storm Shield - Normal - Normal This is the lowest point value with the highest survivability for a squad of 5 I have found. Putting a TH/SS on the same model as a SW player is really just not point affective as you will want to take the risky saves on the SS model (thats what he's there for.) This means that model may die and you don't want to take that TH with it. A five man squad allows for decent wound allocation and you should focus on keeping the models that will benefit you for the purpose of that game alive. It depends on the points but generally I only take this squad in 1850+ with a Wolf Lord on a TWC. But thats just me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2438774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I'd add some meltabombs to the above squad. You have not much wound-alocation (sp?) here. I'd go - Power Fist - Storm Shield - Storm Shield and Meltabomb - Meltabomb - Regular And then I'd spam GHs in rhinos and win most of my games :( - Natanael Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2438950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Can someone explain would allocation to me because I think the bloke who explained it to me is steering me wrong If I have 1 TWC with each of the close combat weapons can I put a wound on each before having to take a full model off? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204389-how-would-your-best-5-man-thunderwolf-cavalry-geared-like/#findComment-2438973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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