Wolf Guard CC options

[Kvothe]

Greetings brothers!

 

A bit of background for you:

Having managed to get a whole load of the old metal SW figures from a friend for very cheap, I am currently in the process of building my first Space Wolf army since I left the game around 15 years ago.

Thanks to that, a quick trip to the local GW and the selling of a kidney to afford their new plastic miniatures I have a couple of units of Grey Hunters made up already, along with a rhino, a land raider and a dreadnought. Part of the metal models that I got were the old Terminators which, while nice models, seemingly don't have much going on in close combat.

I really like the idea of having a squad of 5 terminators jumping out of a Land Raider that's just skidded to a halt, then charging in to get up close and personal with whatever looks like it needs smashing - HARD.

 

I've got a lot of love for the Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield combo, so am thinking of having a couple of them, but my question is; What should I equip the others with?

 

Can I have one with a flashy sword/axe and a power fist, or would that not work for some reason?

Are lightning claws worth having over anything else?

Is there anything you'd recommend I take or miss out?

 

Disclaimer: As I said, I have only just got back to Fenris after an extended absence. The ale induced haze from catching up with so many of my brothers have left me somewhat worse for wear. Due to this, acronyms make my head hurt unless what they are is explained briefly first. :D

 

I will happily provide kegs of ale for those to help to share

[Thunderhawk3015]

Assuming standard Land Raider,

I would say Take a Wolf Priest with Wolf Tooth Necklace in Terminator Armor, 2 Wolf Guard with Thunderhammer/Stormshield, and 2 with Wolf Claws(Space Wolf Lightning Claws). Wolf Priest lets you reroll all missed hits on either standard infantry or monstrous(not sure what the 2nd one is so I'll make up for it by buying everyone in the fang a round.) and makes the unit fearless.

 

My personal combination for this is Terminator Armor for a 6 man squad with 3 Thunderhammer/Stormshield and 3 with Frost Blade/Stormshield and a Wolf Lord/Wolf Priest in Terminator Armor in a Crusader.

[Kvothe]

My personal combination for this is Terminator Armor for a 6 man squad with 3 Thunderhammer/Stormshield and 3 with Frost Blade/Stormshield and a Wolf Lord/Wolf Priest in Terminator Armor in a Crusader.

 

Thank you. The Land Raider I have is the Cursader/Redeemer one. I just haven't decided on which one to make it yet and my skills don't yet stretch to the whole magnetising side of things.

[evilbeetles]

Assuming standard Land Raider,

I would say Take a Wolf Priest with Wolf Tooth Necklace in Terminator Armor, 2 Wolf Guard with Thunderhammer/Stormshield, and 2 with Wolf Claws(Space Wolf Lightning Claws). Wolf Priest lets you reroll all missed hits on either standard infantry or monstrous(not sure what the 2nd one is so I'll make up for it by buying everyone in the fang a round.) and makes the unit fearless.

 

My personal combination for this is Terminator Armor for a 6 man squad with 3 Thunderhammer/Stormshield and 3 with Frost Blade/Stormshield and a Wolf Lord/Wolf Priest in Terminator Armor in a Crusader.

 

That sounds like one big bunch of mean! And i like it! What do you equip your wolf lord and priest in terminator with?

[mitchell93]

My personal combination for this is Terminator Armor for a 6 man squad with 3 Thunderhammer/Stormshield and 3 with Frost Blade/Stormshield and a Wolf Lord/Wolf Priest in Terminator Armor in a Crusader.

 

Thank you. The Land Raider I have is the Cursader/Redeemer one. I just haven't decided on which one to make it yet and my skills don't yet stretch to the whole magnetising side of things.

i would use it as a crusader because you are much more likely to use the bolters than the firestorm templates

[Kvothe]

Sounds good to me.

 

It's a bit daunting trying to put something as awesome as a Land Raider together when you're not really sure of the better set-up for it.

 

Looking foward to getting home and putting various bits of my terminators together now B)

 

*puts down keg of ale and invites his helpful brothers to help themselves*

[Hotspur]

Thank you. The Land Raider I have is the Cursader/Redeemer one. I just haven't decided on which one to make it yet and my skills don't yet stretch to the whole magnetising side of things.

 

Three words: rare earth magnets. By magnetizing your Raider's sponsons, you can switch it up its loadout to either the Crusader or Redeemer pattern. The magnets are available at most hobby shops, and usually, they're not too expensive.

 

*Edit* I just saw that you said you're not too comfortable magnetizing things; sorry! It's really not as complicated as it seems, though; there are some good tutorial videos on youtube that show how to easily magnetize a Landraider. If you're still not comfortable with the notion, I recommend the Redeemer pattern b/c AP3 templates are gifts from Russ himself! They can do some serious damage to any unit.

 

But I do second T-hawk's suggestion. Attach a Wolf Priest in terminator armor to the squad; give it a good mix of thunderhammer/stormshield and twin-wolf claws and you'll have one killer of a unit.

[WG Vrox]

I agree do the LR Crusader version for your first build, model it with the MM as it's the best 10 ponits spent in the game. If later in your hobby you have the funds for another LR, I would suggest the god hammer over the LRR then lastly the LRR.

 

For your WG setup if you plan to put them in the LRC, I would go with 1 SS/TH 1 SS/PW or FB (model does not have to change) 2 WC/WC 1 HF/CF. Adding a WP in TDA is a very nice option and if you want to go crazy add a RP with Storm Caller to give the LRC some extra protection as it pushes to the front lines.

 

Some thoughts for you.

Vrox

[Kvothe]

But I do second T-hawk's suggestion. Attach a Wolf Priest in terminator armor to the squad; give it a good mix of thunderhammer/stormshield and twin-wolf claws and you'll have one killer of a unit.

 

 

Probably a stupid question, but can I just make one of the Terminators look a bit more flashy and call him a wolf priest or do I need a special model for him?

[Kvothe]

For your WG setup if you plan to put them in the LRC, I would go with 1 SS/TH 1 SS/PW or FB (model does not have to change) 2 WC/WC 1 HF/CF. Adding a WP in TDA is a very nice option and if you want to go crazy add a RP with Storm Caller to give the LRC some extra protection as it pushes to the front lines.

 

Acroymns are not my strong point, so you may have to walk me through this a little. Here's what I think they are (I've bolded the ones I'm not sure about);

 

LRC - Land Raider Cursader

SS- Storm Shield

TH - Thunder Hammer

PW - Power weapon? does that include frost blade and the axe?

WC - Wolf Claw/lightning claw?

HF/CF - *shrugs*

WP - Wolf priest

TDA - Terminator armor?

RP - Rune priest

 

Sorry if these seem like stupid questions, and I know that things like this seem like second nature to those who play regularly, but I'm still feeling my way around the rules and codex at the moment, so am in full on pup mode

[Hfran Morkai]

Welcome!

 

I would try and make a Crozius for your Priest, this can be achieved by using the pack icons you get in the Space Wolf packs as Crozius heads, apart from that paint it black and you have a Wolf Priest nice and ready, I consider the wolf skull helm optional, I use the wolf one from the pack and paint it bone colour.

 

With regards to acronyms, you've got it alright.

 

PW is indeed power weapons, frost weapons aren't included.

WC is the Wolf Claw

HF is a Heavy Flamer

CF s a Chainfist

TDA is terminator armour

 

At least, that's what they used to stand for, with all the different dexes they might not any more

[Grey Mage]

My personal combination for this is Terminator Armor for a 6 man squad with 3 Thunderhammer/Stormshield and 3 with Frost Blade/Stormshield and a Wolf Lord/Wolf Priest in Terminator Armor in a Crusader.

 

Thank you. The Land Raider I have is the Cursader/Redeemer one. I just haven't decided on which one to make it yet and my skills don't yet stretch to the whole magnetising side of things.

I would, personally, suggest the Crusader. Why?

 

1) Better Transport Capacity. Its more flexable like that- you want 15 Bloodclaws and a Wolf Priest? We can do that. You want A large mixed TDA and PA WG unit? We can do that too.

2) More flexable firepower- the Crusader is a viable threat at 24", putting out better firepower than a Grey Hunter squad at 10 men. It can also split fire like a long fang at this range, wich is nice.

3) You dont have to be right next to the enemy- if your opponent is running melta or MC heavy, you may not want to rush in before youve had a chance to wittle him down a bit, or god forbid your immobilized. The Crusader allows it to be a viable threat even when stuck somewhat out of position.

4) Lastly theres a psychological factor- people know what a Crusader in the hands of a good SW player can do, and they fear it. It can absorb alot of firepower that would otherwise hit your rhinos, and its just more intimidating because of the potential squads in it.

[Thunderhawk3015]

*snip*

 

That sounds like one big bunch of mean! And i like it! What do you equip your wolf lord and priest in terminator with?

 

Wolf Lord gets Wolf Tooth Necklace, Terminator Armor, Frost Blade and Storm Shield, Melta Bombs and a Talisman with Saga of the Warrior Born. Wolf Priest gets Wolf Tooth Necklace, Terminator Armor and Wolf Tail Talisman.

 

But I do second T-hawk's suggestion. Attach a Wolf Priest in terminator armor to the squad; give it a good mix of thunderhammer/stormshield and twin-wolf claws and you'll have one killer of a unit.

 

 

Probably a stupid question, but can I just make one of the Terminators look a bit more flashy and call him a wolf priest or do I need a special model for him?

 

You can do either. Ever since more and more plastic kits came out I have been phasing out the metal models I do have in favor of plastic conversions since the plastic is lighter, and in the case of some models like Ragnar, they fit in that little bit more with the rest of your army. If you don't want to do a conversion, painted black with some bone detailing works quite well. On the other hand, if you want to convert one there is a relatively easy way that I used for it.

 

 

Terminator legs/central torso(front/back)

Choice of head(I used the chaos skull helmet trimmed to fit.)

Space Wolf Terminator LEFT HANDED storm bolter.

Thunder hammer for right hand.

Your choice of what you think an appropriate crozius head would be.

 

Assemble normally, for the thunderhammer, pick a point, above the hand, where you think you would want the bit for the crozius to go. Just holding it next to at different points is the easiest way I have found. Depending on the bit you have you may or may not want to pin the head to the haft of the hammer. You may need to trim/remove the cabling that is there for the thunderhammer depending on the length you make the haft for the crozius.

 

Unfortunately I do not have any pictures of my army nor have a camera/setup that would allow me to take decent pictures of them to show the finished product(my recent move resulted in my camera being sucked into the warp).

[Freman Bloodglaive]

My two cents worth says that, unless you're taking a combi-weapon, runic armour is better than terminator armour for the Wolf Priest. He still has a 2+ save, he still carries his grenades, and he still gets a bonus attack from his bolt pistol. A combi-weapon is advantaged by terminator armour's "relentless" rule though.

 

Nonetheless I'm sure we all play with the "rule of cool" firmly in mind, and terminator characters are cool. The Space Marine Captain in terminator armour I made from the Chaos kit (not much of a conversion, marine head and paintjob) towers over my power armoured models.

[Hfran Morkai]

Nonetheless I'm sure we all play with the "rule of cool" firmly in mind, and terminator characters are cool. The Space Marine Captain in terminator armour I made from the Chaos kit (not much of a conversion, marine head and paintjob) towers over my power armoured models.

 

It also seems a bit odd when your heroes are dwarfed by their bodyguards...though this will be happening for my Wolf Lord, because TDA isn't too sneaky. I'll probably stick him on some sandstone however to give him a feeling of height.