wolf363839 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 This is what I'm planning on using for some Thunderwolf Cavalry. Arms are magnetized so I can swap weapons if necessary. I figure they will work on the table top until I can get some new plastic bloodcrushers due out in August, hopefully. My Thunderwolf Lord is pictured below too. He is the benchmark for my future unit, I just want to do them in plastic instead of metal. What do you guys think? Acceptable for a couple months? http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/phil363839/Space%20Wolf%20Army/DSCF2280.jpg?t=1276893307 http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/phil363839/Thunderwolf%20Lord/DSCF2061.jpg?t=1276893358 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Well, I'd certainly roll my eyes if I saw that across the table from me, but I wouldn't not play you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Well, I'd certainly roll my eyes if I saw that across the table from me, but I wouldn't not play you. agree here. there are answers for TWC models, several of which that has been said around the Fang here. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 There are three viable TWC non-GW models now: Russian ones from Ebay Philipino ones from Ebay Mr. Dandy Two more are on the horizon: Paulson Miniatures Can't remember name Now with all these options seems there are better representations available. And even when the plastic juggers do come in August, you are still not using a TWC model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 There are three viable TWC non-GW models now: Russian ones from Ebay Philipino ones from Ebay Mr. Dandy Two more are on the horizon: Paulson Miniatures Can't remember name Now with all these options seems there are better representations available. And even when the plastic juggers do come in August, you are still not using a TWC model. 30 mins over two nights with some vaseline,some green stuff and a straight pin or the tip of a steak knife and you could cover that with a decent amount of fur. And then no one would say a word about it not being a TWC model. Seriously...a layer of fur is easy as hell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MylesTheTroll Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Pretty much what Requiem said. There is no official standard on what the TWC/Fenrisian Wolves/Wolf Lord is/should be. Some tourneys won't even let you use any of these models since there isn't a model. At the minimum, use what you like as long as it is somewhat representing the unit. Though, you are encouraged to make it look as wolf-like as possible. Be imaginative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 plastic bloodcrushers ?..............the new ones coming out are metal arent they ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf363839 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 I hear you guys, and I know they look like crap, it's ok to say so. But I can't use any non-GW models because I play at a GW store. Not to rehash an old discussion, but here goes: As for the bloodcrusher, I see that as a matter of personal preference. I know that not everybody likes the way it looks, but the model is still riding a beast-like model so it represents a TW mount as well as can be expected. I just like the idea of him riding something mechanical and armored, rather than an unarmored living animal with almost no protection (and yet still has a 3+ save w/ the marine included). To me that just doesn't make sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I hear you guys, and I know they look like crap, it's ok to say so. But I can't use any non-GW models because I play at a GW store. Not to rehash an old discussion, but here goes: As for the bloodcrusher, I see that as a matter of personal preference. I know that not everybody likes the way it looks, but the model is still riding a beast-like model so it represents a TW mount as well as can be expected. I just like the idea of him riding something mechanical and armored, rather than an unarmored living animal with almost no protection (and yet still has a 3+ save w/ the marine included). To me that just doesn't make sense. So you greenskin fur on part of it. the lower legs,parts of the chest and lower parts. If you put a little bit of effort in it will show. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarmb Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I'd be fine with them. Then again I've been fine with a piggy bank standing in for a Land Raider. So, I may opinion may not be the most relevant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Two more are on the horizon: Paulson Miniatures Can't remember name Now with all these options seems there are better representations available. And even when the plastic juggers do come in August, you are still not using a TWC model. micro art studio are releasing one within the month :unsure: personally i think juggernaughts are a fine stand-in for TWC i mean it just looks like a robotic wolf, so whats the big deal, it would fit right in if yuor dreads are converted to dognaughts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I hate juggernaut conversions because of the hooves. Otherwise, they're perfectly acceptable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 There are three viable TWC non-GW models now: Russian ones from Ebay Philipino ones from Ebay Mr. Dandy Two more are on the horizon: Paulson Miniatures Can't remember name Now with all these options seems there are better representations available. And even when the plastic juggers do come in August, you are still not using a TWC model. the Fenris Wolf from the Heroclix Thor range works too. i have a few of them, you can get them off of ebay cheap. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I love the Jugernaught conversion. Please don't try to modle fur on, it would just look weird. The jugernaught is just like a very very cybernetic thunderwolf. maybe try making the head more wolf like and give the jugger a mechanical tail and perhaps do something with the feet. I agree that thunderwolves are a stupid idea. The space wolves really don't need them. The wolves used to be my favourite chapter but the Thunderwolves really annoy me. Next we will have the RG riding super ravens and the Salies riding dragons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf363839 Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share Posted June 19, 2010 Requiem, I have put "a little effort" into the completed model in my second picture, and have heard nothing but positive comments from all who've seen it in the store. If I choose not to add fur that's my choice. You don't have to like it for it to be a workable model. Besides, I'm not experienced enough with greenstuff to make it worthwhile risking my Wolf Lord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Requiem, I have put "a little effort" into the completed model in my second picture, and have heard nothing but positive comments from all who've seen it in the store. If I choose not to add fur that's my choice. You don't have to like it for it to be a workable model. Besides, I'm not experienced enough with greenstuff to make it worthwhile risking my Wolf Lord. *sigh* I am sorry if my comment came across as antagonistic man...It was right after I had woken up and apparently I shouldn't be allowed near a computer forum when Im half asleep lol. They don't look like crap,I was not trying to say they did. You asked for opinions and that was what I was trying to do. I do think that the juggernaut version is better then the wolf and guy side by side. I was just trying to give a suggestion that to my mind would make a good model look even better. But seriously though...doing fur with greenstuff is without a doubt the easiest thing in the world to do..It is actually what I would recommend for learning how to use greenskin. just take a flat surface and a small peice of greenskin and smooth it down flat. Then you take a pin,kitchen knife,or anything that comes to a small point. put some vaseline on the point and do some short,like half inch lines in the greenstuff after it has had 10 mins or so to set. start at the bottom and do a line across about a 1/8th of an inch apart. Then go to about an inch above the first set of lines and repeat,this time drawing the lines slightly across and through the tops of the first lines. repeat that till you get close to the top,and then just pull from the top down a bit. practice it a couple times,and you will feel comfortable with it I guarentee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allerka Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Pretty much what Requiem said. There is no official standard on what the TWC/Fenrisian Wolves/Wolf Lord is/should be. Some tourneys won't even let you use any of these models since there isn't a model. At the minimum, use what you like as long as it is somewhat representing the unit. Though, you are encouraged to make it look as wolf-like as possible. Be imaginative. Yeah, it's tricky and annoying without a model out. Luckily I can get away with it since I do a DIY Chapter using SW rules, and I have more of a lizard/dragon theme going, so I've got Space Marines riding Cold Ones as my TWC equivalents (satisfies GW requirements, too!). :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleCharlie Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I think that wolf juggernaut is totally kick ass. I've been thinking something similar for my wolf lord (because all the space wolf lord models suck...) but was hesitant because I wasn't sure how it would turn out. I will absolutely be doing a similar conversion now, and although I might give my lord a furry cape, I would no way try and model fur on the actual juggernaut. I think people get too hung up on the fact it used to be a chaos model, but you've made a really good job of removing all the iconography. The only thing I might have done personally would be to remove the horns from the wolfs face. I really love the paint scheme too, never seen metal space wolves and they look great! Anyone that rolled their eyes across the table at me would feel my wrath... but then again the club where I play occasionally doesn't have the sort of people that would roll their eyes at something like that anyway! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDS Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Requiem, I have put "a little effort" into the completed model in my second picture, and have heard nothing but positive comments from all who've seen it in the store. If I choose not to add fur that's my choice. You don't have to like it for it to be a workable model. Besides, I'm not experienced enough with greenstuff to make it worthwhile risking my Wolf Lord. I would be absolutely fine with the juggernaught TWC, as would anyone in my neck of the woods, tournaments included. Honestly, a little fur here and there would help out and give you the option to run one without fur with a Iron Priest... The pics of the SM and Fen wolf sharing a base would also fly, but the jugger is a closer "fit". In addition, I would favor, when judging, your conversions over those that did not use GW figs if you wanted to get right down technical as yours are made up completely of GW models. A Mr. Dandy model is well over 50% non-GW and that used to be illegal in most tournament environments. But, things in this regard seem to have lightened up and just add this for discussion. Thanks, BDS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2439742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshrug Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I'll run counter to the current in the thread and say that the model looks great, and fur isn't necessary. As to the stand-ins, nobody will really fault you if you say they're a hold-over for a just little over a month. Models are expensive, and at least that's a GW legal option. -Stormshrug Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2440001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 btw where did you get that plastic TWC are coming in August, ive never heard that before Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2440131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 btw where did you get that plastic TWC are coming in August, ive never heard that before I think he means the new Juggernaughts coming out then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2440137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I think juggernaughts work great. They'd work good in a 13th company force using the SW codex too i think, more so than a regular great company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2440142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Oh hey man, nice job crushing those dirty Thousand Sons today. :lol: Anyway they might not be the greatest looking but there was absolutely no doubt what they were representing when I saw them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2440241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Maxmini.eu also has a Fenrisian wolf/Thunder Wolf Cavalry option that looks quite good painted up. No one ever seems to mention that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204556-thunderwolf-stand-ins/#findComment-2440299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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