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Flesh Tearer First company color?


fenrir31

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Hi there!

 

If my memory serves me correctly the Flesh Tearers don't have a Veteran Company because of their limited numbers and fast rate of Marines succumbing to the Flaw. Their 1st Company is in fact another Battle-Company. So standard colours for the 1st.

 

That's the purist way of looking things, but as always they are your models and if you like gold helmets for them go for it. :D

Correct, they have no Veteran 1st Company

 

Their 4 companies all operate as separate fighting forces. There's no record of their company markings either, so nothing to indicate you might have different coloured shoulderpads or chapter icons.

 

However, with regards to Veterans having gold helmets, there is reference to their Honour Guard having golden helmets in James Swallow's novels. This is not repeated elsewhere in their Index Astartes article, or the BA Codex. So you could indeed paint their helmets gold, or paint them black. It is up to you.

That's the purist way of looking things, but as always they are your models and if you like gold helmets for them go for it. :lol:

 

Gold helmets are the marking of a veteran squad not the veteran company. So an FT veteran squad - if using BA squad markings (current codex shows FT using codex squad markings instead) - would still have a gold helmet, he would however be from the same company as the rest of the force (meaning if company 2-5 he would have a drop of the appropriate colour in place of the 1st companies skull emblem)

 

There's no record of their company markings either, so nothing to indicate you might have different coloured shoulderpads or chapter icons

Other than the Index Astartes article which identifies the example pad (white blood drop) as 5th company (I used to regard that as a screwup until someone incorrectly claimed BA company blood drops were in the codex company colours, at which point I realised that 3 of the 4 battle companies do follow the codex colours - with the exception of the 3rd company which replaces it with white presumably because it would mean a red drop on a red field.. if the FT followed suit that explain shifting white to 5th company). The current codex shows an FT tactical marine with a 2 on his kneepad and a red blood drop over his tactical arrow, presumably the number means the squad and the drop the company.

The colour section in the codex shows successor marines has a fleshtearer with a tactical squad symbol with a blood drop overlayed... throuh personal deduction I reason veteran Flesh Tearer would have a veteran Crux overlayed with a blood drop.

 

Apologies to Vodunius who explain as such with much more style and grace (or rather... detail) :no:

Black helmets ALWAYS I think it was chapter Approved that said we ALL use black helmets due to our lack of a real structure set up and the fact we do not maintain a vet company thus why our Devs have black helmets and our assault squads have black helmets so follow the trend and give em all black helmets Don't wanna Be a PEACOCK do ya boy???

Not to be inflammatory, my interpretation of the fluff is that all fleshtearers are trained to fill the every role required of a loyalist Space marine chapter, displaying current squad disposition makes sense to me as it would for battlefield ident purposes. To display veteran squad type regalia (or Crux) would at least be used to represent those that have survived the onset of the black rage for a number of years or operations...

 

I agree helmets should remain black but as I stated previously, squad regalia should be presented... right Shoulder Crux with company coloured blood drop with squad number on right knee...

 

Honour guard would be similar but with a skull in place of the veteran crux... or maybe even retain the veteran crux with a skull on right knee... I haven't decided yet :s

 

I know for the sake of clarity I would like to see an official determination from the design team...

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