orar Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Howdy Folks. Im doing an IA at the moment for a chapter named the Wardens. Now, I won't bore you by going into details ( thats for another time ;) ) But I was hoping I could get your help on a small detail. A lot of the Beliefs and such of my chapter have Celtic Origins. Now, I've done pretty well so far. Kind of. But i've hit a boobie. Im doing my own Chapter Organisation grid ( Similar to the one on page 17 of C:SM ) Im trying to come up with Titles for my captains. I'll use some of the Codex Titles, but I wanted to throw in some original ideas. So errr... Help me out ? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codex Grey Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 What do you want these titles to represent? The reason why the Codex have titles for Captains is because each title represent the nominal duties of that Captain, like the Master of the Fleet. Of course, then you have extra titles that other Chapters use, like the White Scars' Master of the Hunt, a title associated with the special duties unique to the Scars. So when you want different titles, is it just to have something different? Are you looking for something different from 'Master of the Fleet', but the title represents the same duty? Or are you looking for completely unique titles representing unique duties to your Chapter? If the former, you have to ask yourself if it is really necessary. If the latter, then we need to know more about these special duties. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2441540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espada Azul Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I think Codex Grey will beat me to it, but aside of the Masters and other positions of the Ultramarines you're free to give your Captains positions/second-hat roles depending on your Chapter's history. For example, in my DIY, I have the Keeper of the Covenant and the Guardian of the Swords, while the Blood Angels have the Caller of the Fires and the Lord of Skyfall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2441543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
orar Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 Ok, Well I was thinking special duties, In hindsight I probably should have explained a little better. The First Captain is responsible for the Traditional honour duels that take place within the chapter, so something along the lines of Master of the Blades, or Master of the Duels. The Second Captain is Master of the Watch ( all Codex Style ) The Third Captain is The Chapter Master's Personal Bodyguard. I'm totally lost for names on this one. The Fourth Captain is The Master of the Fleet The Fifth Captain is responsible for all the Chapter's treasures, kind of like the armoury but not, more so like cool little bits the chapter has picked up. So Im thinking Master of the Treasures, or Master of the Riches. The rest of the captains are normal, lovely codex style. Does that help ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2441548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espada Azul Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Yes, indeed it does. For the Captain that doubles as the Chapter Master's bodyguard, how about Curator Primus? Or something to the sort that's more Celtic-inspired. Though, shouldn't accompanying the Chapter Master be the duty of the Honor Guard? :) As for the other Captain, how about Keeper of the Vault? Master of the Lock? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2441552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
orar Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 Ah, I like the Keeper of the Vault Idea - Thanks !! Whilst the Honour Guard do Accompany the Chapter master when he goes to war, the Idea is this captain, and his company, are sworn to protect and honour the chapter master. Im thinking Maybe Master of the Household. Or some such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2441555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espada Azul Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I dunno, Master of the Household seems a little too close to Chief Victualler (which is an actual position in the Ultramarines!), plus it doesn't sound like a position a Space Marine would have. Also not all of the 'second-hat' positions have to start with 'Master' after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2441564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
orar Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 Mmm. Good Point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2441566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Cool idea for the duelling: All honour duels are conducted by very strict rules, each particpant must blood his palm on X - blade of first Chapter Master? - thus the Master becomes the Keeper of the Blade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2441838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gharad Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Just looking at it, and your body guard Captain. One I have been trying to make work but can't. "Sentinel" My other ideas are Master of the Shield. (With his Company being "The Shield") Or Keeper of the Shield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2442216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 How about the Lord Seneschal? The First Captain - Lord Seneschal (responsible for ceremonial and traditional duties - including duels... as well as high military command) The Second Captain is Master of the Watch ( all Codex Style ) - How about Lord Torresan (Torresan is another name for keep master or something similar) The Third Captain is The Chapter Master's Personal Bodyguard - Lord Praetorian (the Praetorians guarded the ruler of ancient Rome after all...) The Fourth Captain is The Master of the Fleet - How about Lord Admiral? The Fifth Captain is responsible for all the Chapter's treasures - Master of the Keys? Keepr of the vault sounds good as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2442261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 I would avoid culturally specific titles like Praetorian. Unless your chapter is specifically influenced by the ancient romans (of Imperial Rome mind you, not the early republic) then it won't gel properly with the overall feel of the chapter. If you are creating a special position or role then a new title is a nice little addition to a chapter. However if you're simply renaming already existing positions for the sake of it or to make your chapter more 'unique', I'd drop it all together. Character comes from the combination of their culture and history, not whether they call the second captain the carrier of the holy fluffy duster, rather than the master of the fleet, for example. It's redundant and pointless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2442271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 I now demand to see a "Carrier of the Holy Fluffy Duster" in the Emperor's Gardeners Chapter*. *Must PM Ace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2442399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Captain of the 1st: An Tiarna ár lann claímhe (The Lord of the sword blade) Captain of the 2nd: An Tiarna coimirceoir (the lord guardian) Captain of the 3rd: An Tiarna ár slánaitheoir (the lord saviour) Captain of the 4th: An Tiarna ár cabhlach (the lord for navy) slightly "pigeon-ified" but very celtic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204740-captain-titles/#findComment-2442430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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