The Masterless

[Sgt. Rackhamm]

Hello.

 

This is not supposed to be a normal chapter, in fact they are supposed to be very disliked by many. If you see something that would be considered not possible or incorrect fluff, please let me know.

 

 

 

They wonder the galaxy with no home no grand history. For over seven millennium they have suffered. Banished by their own choice they wonder the stars, they are called the Emperor's Ronin.

 

Records of their history is small and what is know of them is little. It is said that they are dependance of the Imperial Fists, forced out of the chapter as if they were a disease that needed to be removed or cleansed. Supposedly their first Chapter master or Grand Father was Apothecary Meric Voyen, but that is impossible. There are no records of an Apothecary from the Imperial Fists records called Meric Voyen.

 

What ever their past or who ever made them does not matter, because they are here. It's because of their existence that the we speak of them. They are a chapter that has a very unstable gene-seed. This is very strange because they were discovered so early (the Fifth Founding to be exact). Their gene-seed lacks the Oolitic Kidney and the Preomnor organs. The Betcher's Gland has in creased and all gene-seeds are infected by a bacteria that kills all poisonous diseases that try to harm their bodies, but it comes at a costly price.

 

Their armor morphs into their skin, slowly but surly it is inevitable. All who take the seed will become mere bodies morphed into the holy Cerimite armor. Also when they die the bacteria within them takes they're souls and are given to the Chaos God Nurgle and are devoured. It is the chapters duty to hunt down all of their fallen brethren.

 

This is a very special and unusual disease, but is the very reason why the chapter has banished themselves. Now alone in a fight to slay their own brothers and to restore honor, they do what ever is necessary to cleanse their gene-seed of this taint before it consumes them all.

 

As their war cry says, “Fight today, for tomorrow you Die!!!” It is the undeniable truth. Unfortunately the truth is worse for them. When they die they become one with the ranks of the vile plague marines.

 

They fear death more than any other chapter, but that does not mean they will not fight. They are well know in the art of tactical combat. Even thought they dislike the use of motorbikes and drop pods, they are still known for their swift and precise combat.

 

You will commonly see their thunderhawk gunships roaring down beside orbital bombing precision missiles, and as hell rains down upon you, so do they. Withing these thunderhawks will be many assault marines and under the belly of their hulls will be land raiders made to be dropped from 200-300 feet up. As you meet the might of the chapters claws and poisoned blades, drop ships will descend upon you with hundreds of neophytes and rhino transports.

 

The chapters faith is coordinated by the eleven masters of Faith. They are the chapters Chaplains and supreme council of the Grand Father. Their beliefs are much different than other chapters. Believing that the Emperor was the very father of their chapter, through their Primarch of coarse. They believe that the Emperor died for all of humanity, and through eternal suffering he continues to serve his people.

 

They also believe that it is the Primarchs fault for the Emperor's demise. So they do not worship a Primarch, and believe that no one should worship those who have the Emperors blood on their hamds.

 

Since the Emperors Ronin see death differently than others, they believe it is possible to find their beloved Emperor stuck in the warp. They believe that the only way to redeem themselves of their black mark is to rescue the Emperor from painful oblivion and free him of his Torturers.

 

The chapter has a force of around 2,000 strong (neophytes included), 20 companies, and here are the numbers.

20 companies. 30 thunder hawks, 13 land raiders, 29 Tech marines, 24 apothecaries, 25 Dreadnaughts, 11 Chaplains, 40 minestronium Priests, 80 Tech priests, Emperor Class battle barge,

 

First company, Battle Master (1st capt.), Master of Sanctity, 10 other chaplains, 5 Doom Guard (term,) 50 assault terminators, 50 terminators, and 16 apothecaries.

 

Second through Sixth companies, Father(2nd-6th Capt.), Command Squad, 60 Tactical marines, 30 Devastators marines.

 

Seventh through Ninth Companies, Raptor(7th-9th Captains), 10 vanguard, 1 apothecaries, 90 assault marines.

 

tenth through twelfth companies, 100 pilots and drivers in scout armor.

 

Thirteenth through fifteenth companies, Grand Teacher (13th-15th Capt.) 5 minestronium priests, 10 tech priests, 100 neophytes in storm trooper armor.

Sixteenth through twentieth companies, Teacher (16th-20th capt.), 5 minestronium priests, 10 tech priests, 100 neophytes in carapace armor.

 

That is as much as I got for now. This is not a troll and I need help.

[RagingGriffon]

First... everything with disease and what not does not add up to 2000 strong. If they do set themselves apart, then they are more than likely going to be undermanned. Please don't break the 1000 Astartes limit.

 

I think you have some nuggets of goodness in here, but you need to clean it up. Maybe you can go with a portion of your guys went to Nurgle, or something like that. However, every Marine that dies goes to Nurgle seems a bit much.

 

Ronin is a Japanese term. I don't see any Japanese themes present in your Chapter.

 

I like how they view the Primarchs. That is unique. I also like how they feel they will find the Emperor someday. Also unique.

 

I will let other people comment. Just keep on truckin' and you will eventually get there.

[Sgt. Rackhamm]

The only way that they sustain such a large force is due to their recruiting style. For every one that falls 10 newborns must be taken. From there they will be trained from the moment that they can crawl. Their entire lives will be devoted to their training. Since they have no home world all training is in a section of their flagship, the Undead Eisenstein. From the moment they are within the ships hull they are put into groups of 5.

 

By the time they become a neophyte there will only be 2 left. You see, only the toughest and best trained can even be considered to become a neophyte of the Emperors Ronin.

 

Now out of the 2,000 warriors in the Chapter, 800 of them are neophytes and 300 are considered at scout level. Only 900 plus others are truly considered to be Space3 Marines.

 

Now the Curse of the Unclean might sound pretty bad, but it is the only thing that keeps the chapter running. Just as it is their curse, it is their strength. With the ability to withstand any disease that could be harmful to them and have enhanced acid spitting powers, they can pretty much fight Tyranids with their bear hands. The poisons in their Betcher's Gland are able to cut through the toughest of metals and the hardest of skins. Incredibly it does not damage a certain level of purified steel.

 

This steel is what they use for the production of their chainswords. Each must be hand crafted by people with incredible skill. Only those of the Adeptus Mechanicus know how to create such chainswords. That is why there are 30 Techmarines and 80 neophytes that have the rank of Techseers (Techpriest Engineseers) that work day and night to repair and construct weapons and vehicles for the chapter.

 

Speaking of which, the chapter is very close to the Adeptus Mechanicus. Since there has been no sight of the Emperor's Soul for quit some time, the Emperor's Ronin have chosen to look for other alternative. While the Emperor might be able to remove the taint from the chapter. The Adeptus Mechanicus might be able to remove the disease itself.

 

With that possible the Emperor's Ronin keep the Sicons of Mars close. Every ten years they meet, every ten years the chapter finds gifts to give the false machine god, and in return the Sicons of Mars give the chapter their unique gene-seed, she Sicons also train the Tech marines from birth, but most importantly the Adeptus Mechanicus arm and rebuild the chapters ships, weapons, and vehicles.

 

It is rumored that most of the Techmarines don't even have the same genetic code and have special adrenalin glands and clean gene-seeds instead of what the rest of the chapter has.

 

The only one who knows is the Grand master Ragnorroc (Rag-nor-rock), who is also Master of the Forge

 

PS. The name is not changing. If Mongols, werewolves, and vampires are allowed to be Space Marines, why not Ronin? It is all how you look at it.

 

May your god have mercy on your soul, for I shall not!

[Terminatorinhell]

I do like the whole theme you have, mainly the point of view about the Emperor (I had an idea about that oo, that they must free him to be reborn), the virus idea is a bit odd but it works.

[Espada Azul]

First off, using the term Ronin invokes certain images. It's the name used for masterless or landless Samurai, and literally nothing in your Chapter concept reflects that. You tried to defend the name by mentioning vampires (Blood Angels), werewolves (Space Wolves), but at least there's some correlation between their Chapter names and their themes; yours don't.

 

The over-sized pool of recruits reminds me of the petitioners of the Iron Snakes, but even they didn't have so many neophytes. The Exorcists, who are much more hardcore than the Iron Snakes, only have two extra scout companies.

 

You mention this 'curse' of plague, that it makes them stronger. That's too convenient, I think, plus a Space Marine is already a juggernaut of destruction already.

 

Speaking of which, the relationship of the Chapter with the Mechanicus, I think only a very radical-minded Magos Biologos would even consider interacting with a Chapter with obvious disease-related issues. Why? Because a Chapter is required to submit a tenth of its geneseed for testing and storage to the Mechanicus. If the tests come back showing signs of taint or mutation, then your Chapter will be at the very least placed under scrutiny by the Inquisition, at WORST you'll have a task force of Grey Knights after you. It happened to the Flame Falcons after all.

 

True the Mechanicus supplies geneseed, but it's nominally a one-time thing, and it is done at a Chapter's inception, and not done continuously over a Chapter's lifetime. The mention of the Mechanicus training techmarines is redundant, as pretty much EVERY Chapter has their techmarines trained at Mars these days, but trained from birth? Goes against what we know: one becomes a Marine FIRST, then if they show any promise with machines, THEN they are trained to become techmarines.

 

Also: Signature size. It's huge, please change it.

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

Also: Signature size. It's huge, please change it.

 

Seconded. Also, if you don't change it the mods will forcibly remove it from your sig.

 

EA addressed most of my concerns before I got here, which reduces my word count here significantly.

 

What I will ask is whether you have read the Guide to DIYing that is stickied (and linked there) at the top of the forum?

 

 

Edit

 

Welcome to the B&C, hope you have a pleasant stay!

 

Liber-ites don't pull their punches my friend, but defending an already bad idea will just get you torn to shreds. Try to see where we are coming from before you jump on your own defensive bandwagon. While things might make sense in your own mind, they don't to us as a part of the shared 40k universe, which is the point of the Liber sub-forum.

[Octavulg]

I'm not even worrying about other aspects of the Chapter.

 

Their name simply does not work.

 

Firstly, Chapter names are in English. Working in words from other languages doesn't really fit well with the universe - the Imperium uses one language - Gothic.

 

Second, you've made a basic grammatical error in the first word.

 

Third, Ronin are masterless samurai. Yet, by definition, the Emperor's Ronin would not be masterless. The name is self-contradictory.

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

Third, Ronin are masterless samurai. Yet, by definition, the Emperor's Ronin would not be masterless. The name is self-contradictory.

 

Y'know I saw that after I posted. I wondered how long it would take someone to pick it up. I should have known it would be you. ;)

[Hemal]

Third, Ronin are masterless samurai. Yet, by definition, the Emperor's Ronin would not be masterless. The name is self-contradictory.

 

Damn beaten to it - well, new word for the day - their Chaoter name is an Oxymoron!! :)

[voi shet magir]

When the chapter has a name like this, you can get away with anything. After the thread title, I do not even care about this:

 

They fear death more than any other chapter

 

this:

 

5 minestronium priests, 10 tech priests, 100 neophytes in storm trooper armor.

Sixteenth through twentieth companies, Teacher (16th-20th capt.), 5 minestronium priests, 10 tech priests, 100 neophytes in carapace armor

 

or this:

 

80 neophytes that have the rank of Techseers (Techpriest Engineseers)

 

I probably would not even have read the thread if not for its title. I am darn sure excited. The main things are that it isn't boring and doesn't try too hard, everybody.

[Fire Lord Captain]

I agree with the majority in saying that the Emperor's Ronin is contradictory. At least ditch the Emperor part maybe?

 

how about:

Space Ronin

Imperial Ronin

Star Ronin

Blood Ronin

The Masterless

 

you get the idea ;)

[Ace Debonair]

Hello.

 

Howdy. Welcome to the Liber. :mellow:

 

They wonder the galaxy with no home no grand history. For over seven millennium they have suffered. Banished by their own choice they wonder the stars, they are called the Emperor's Ronin.

 

I'd change the name - to reference the other chapters that you did, they aren't called the Space Vikings, Vampire Angels or Mongol Scars. ;)

 

What ever their past or who ever made them does not matter, because they are here.

Except you talk about how mysterious their past is, surely prompting further discussion on this point. Perhaps you should alter or remove the mysterious bit.

 

 

They are a chapter that has a very unstable gene-seed. This is very strange because they were discovered so early (the Fifth Founding to be exact). Their gene-seed lacks the Oolitic Kidney and the Preomnor organs. The Betcher's Gland has in creased and all gene-seeds are infected by a bacteria that kills all poisonous diseases that try to harm their bodies, but it comes at a costly price.

Discovered? Do you mean they were a fifth founding chapter? They don't just pop up out of the floor, you know. The High Lords of Terra know about your marines from day one, because they will have authorised their creation.

 

Their armor morphs into their skin, slowly but surly it is inevitable. All who take the seed will become mere bodies morphed into the holy Cerimite armor. Also when they die the bacteria within them takes they're souls and are given to the Chaos God Nurgle and are devoured. It is the chapters duty to hunt down all of their fallen brethren.

And yet your chapter still recruits people? Why?

 

The chapter has a force of around 2,000 strong

Why? This doesn't add anything but problems to your chapter. If any other chapters or any inquisitors catch word of the extra 1,000 marines, your chaps are going to be in the smelly stuff faster than you can say 'exterminatus'. ;)

 

And you really don't need to tell us how many of who is where or what each sergeant had for breakfast. ;)

 

That is as much as I got for now. This is not a troll and I need help.

 

Well, I feel like I'm echoing a lot of other folks here. This is what I get for not reading the comments before posting a reply.

 

Here at the Liber, we work to improve DIY by pruning away all of the silly, impossible, or otherwise unsavoury ideas. There's a few here, but don't be disheartened. Everyone's first chapter has a few good mistakes in there - it's sort of a tradition. :P

 

You've got some novel ideas, such as the views on the Emperor and Primarchs. But this chapter would be much better as a dying chapter with a mere four or five companies to their name, slowly fading away because they refuse to subject anyone else to their polluted geneseed, and determined to die fighting with the honour and pride they cultivated before the curse struck.

 

Of course, this is just my opinion, and can be ignored or dismissed as you see fit.

 

The only thing that cannot be ignored is the advice given by GHY:

What I will ask is whether you have read the Guide to DIYing that is stickied (and linked there) at the top of the forum?

Because if you haven't, you should. ;)

[Sgt. Rackhamm]

Thank you all for your advice. Yes, I have officially finished reading the WHOLE DIY. I must say, it's pretty huge.

 

Anyways, I like the name that Fire Lord thought up, The Masterless. Quit a nice name for this chapter. I guess I didn't explain why they seem so awesome (Which they shouldn't be), and why they have so many Neophytes.

 

You see, they are considered to be by the High Lords of Terra as monsters. They see that the chapter is not what it once was. They only see taint and corruption. Now the chapter is not just banished by themselves, but if they tried to stay in one place they would die. They are targeted for Exterminatus.

 

This forces the Chapter to have a high demand of troops to field. Their rules firmly declare that for every Brother that dies on the field of battle, ten newborns must take their place. Now out of those 10 only 6 will make it past the age of 12. From there they just arm the children with anything they got and throw them into combat. Those children are considered by the chapter as neophytes, but are not. By Imperial standards once the chapters recruits are given gene-seed implants then they are truly considered to be neophytes. There are only around 200 of those and they are considered as scouts for the chapter.

 

So there is really around 900 real Space Marines, 200 neophytes, and 1900 teenagers with guns.

 

Another thing, I shall change the relationship with the Adeptus Mechanicus.

 

I shall change,

 

With that possible the Emperor's Ronin keep the Sicons of Mars close. Every ten years they meet, every ten years the chapter finds gifts to give the false machine god, and in return the Sicons of Mars give the chapter their unique gene-seed

 

Now it is, "With that possible the Emperor's Ronin keep the Sicons of Mars close. Every ten years they meet, every ten years the chapter finds gifts to give the false machine god, and in return the Sicons of Mars try to remove the chapter's unique mutations. As long as the Chapter continues to bring gifts to the Mechanicum, the Techpriests of mars will continue to attempt to remove the Chapters curse."

 

Even with all of the problems with the chapter, it is still thriving. With no one as their true master other than Grand Father Ragnorroc (Chapter Master and Master of the Forge) and their great father the Emperor, they have no one to tell them what to do. They are free to do as they please, as long as they abide by their two books of law. Roboute Gulliman's book called the Codex and the other... I can't remember what it's called.

 

I'll get back on that, but for now. The chapter recruits from all that are capable of giving, and many allow it. Around 300 babies in exchange for their planets protection from the moments doom. Most see this as a fair trade. And with the chapter having at least 200 battles a year 2,000 in a loop. That is 300,000 babies that are taken every 10 years just to sustain an army of 900 marines. That is a lot of milk required.

 

That might seem wrong and sickening, but that is what the chapter does in order to survive.

[Myxx]

I'll be the one who says it... the word is 'tutu', not 'too too'... they mean totally different things.

[Fire Lord Captain]

I'll be the one who says it... the word is 'tutu', not 'too too'... they mean totally different things.

 

Gotta love correcting people on teh internet ^_^

 

Glad you like "The Masterless" SgtRackham ;) Will you be modelling these "teenagers with guns"?

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

So there is really around 900 real Space Marines, 200 neophytes, and 1900 teenagers with guns.

 

While you might get away with this at a stretch, the 'teenagers with guns' are essentially Imperial Guard Whiteshields. This comparison in of itself breaks the Separation of Powers that was enacted after the Heresy and is one of the only tenets vigilantly and viciously enforced. While the Imperium itself doesn't always enforce it itself, it is often taken care of within the Adeptus Astartes themselves. The Space Marines value their independance and to accused of heresy even to a small degree undermines this.

[Sgt. Rackhamm]

As the topic motto says, "Purity, is of ones opinion."

 

This chapter has no loyalties to the Imperium’s “High Lords” Their loyalties are to the Emperor then Chapter. They really only have 900 armed teenagers (the 1,900 was a typo), and they are well trained in the art of combat.

 

All of their lives have been devoted to what the Eldar call, “The Art of War.” They are essential to the chapter, and yes there will be models for them.

 

They are equal to any when it comes to long ranged combat. Many are able to strip a Hot-shot Lasgun, rebuild it, and vaporize an iron nail from 300 meters in les than a minute. So their BS is 4.

 

Due to the fact that they are still human and only children, they do not have the skill that most warriors need in order to fight will in hand to hand combat. If it was a battle between Kroot barehanded, and them with swords… They would die, and because of that they have WS 3, I 2/3, S 3, T 3.

 

Moral will be 8, due to the fact that they have been trained and “convinced” that they are fighting for the right and for humanity.

 

Their Weapons shall be snipers that have been shortened, and made for auto-firing. This is due to the fact that the chapter believes that lasguns to be to weak, and their “Children” to be to inaccurate to use snipers weapons. So, their weapons are S 4, AP – Autorifles

 

The model itself will be made out of a storm trooper suit and shortened IG sniper rifles. They are considered as fresh meat for the grinder. :devil:

 

PS. Did I mention that the chapter dislikes all Warp powers and plasma weapons? Anyways, they chapter has no phykers (aka Librarians), or anything that has to due with plasma.

 

That stuff just blows up in you face :devil:

[Leonaides]

So they have no spacecraft either? No plasma forges to create new vehicles/armour?

[Lt. Smash]

I love the armies founding. And I think you've got some solid stuff here, but there are a few things I think you need to fix up.

 

This is a very special and unusual disease, but is the very reason why the chapter has banished themselves. Now alone in a fight to slay their own brothers and to restore honor, they do what ever is necessary to cleanse their gene-seed of this taint before it consumes them all.

 

Hmm... That seems kinda redundant. Because in killing the tainted/Nurgle brothers wouldn't some of the non-Nurgle marines die? Essentially causing the Masterless to wipe themselves out?

 

As their war cry says, “Fight today, for tomorrow you Die!!!” It is the undeniable truth. Unfortunately the truth is worse for them. When they die they become one with the ranks of the vile plague marines.

 

Bold and italic? Woah! And three exclamation marks? This really grates with me. Also thats a fairly generic warcry, and you chould probably reword your introduction to the quotes as something like- The Masterless' warcry is... etc. You get the idea. Though my example wasn't much better...

 

The chapter has a force of around 2,000 strong (neophytes included), 20 companies, and here are the numbers.

20 companies. 30 thunder hawks, 13 land raiders, 29 Tech marines, 24 apothecaries, 25 Dreadnaughts, 11 Chaplains, 40 minestronium Priests, 80 Tech priests, Emperor Class battle barge,

 

First company, Battle Master (1st capt.), Master of Sanctity, 10 other chaplains, 5 Doom Guard (term,) 50 assault terminators, 50 terminators, and 16 apothecaries.

 

Second through Sixth companies, Father(2nd-6th Capt.), Command Squad, 60 Tactical marines, 30 Devastators marines.

 

Seventh through Ninth Companies, Raptor(7th-9th Captains), 10 vanguard, 1 apothecaries, 90 assault marines.

 

tenth through twelfth companies, 100 pilots and drivers in scout armor.

 

Thirteenth through fifteenth companies, Grand Teacher (13th-15th Capt.) 5 minestronium priests, 10 tech priests, 100 neophytes in storm trooper armor.

Sixteenth through twentieth companies, Teacher (16th-20th capt.), 5 minestronium priests, 10 tech priests, 100 neophytes in carapace armor.

 

Numbers aren't always that great in what is essentially an English based piece of work. And anyway, who wants to do math. Give us vauge estimations. Also, who keeps track of all these Neophytes? You said yourself (I think) that they are expendable. But if you do decide to give us numbers, please introduce the section with, something like "As recorded by Scribe Horatius, on the Eve of the Battle for Blackhollow, the numbers of the Masterless were: ..."

 

Anyway, you got some solid work here and I hope you take my opinion and that of others on the Liber to heart, and make this chapter awesome. (But without the heretical of awesomeness...)

[Captain Juan Juarez]

Storm Trooper armour is almost always Carapace armour.

[Marshal Rohr]

The name still doesnt work. How would he identify himself?

 

I am a Blood Angel/Space Wolf/Ultramarine

 

as opposed to

 

I am a Masterless.

 

It would have to be I am one of the Masterless, which goes against the sports team naming system in place. You should consider sticking to the Adjective Noun combo to make things simpler. Especially if your going to be making waves with Chapter numbers.

[Fire Lord Captain]

The name still doesnt work. How would he identify himself?

 

I am a Blood Angel/Space Wolf/Ultramarine

 

as opposed to

 

I am a Masterless.

 

It would have to be I am one of the Masterless, which goes against the sports team naming system in place. You should consider sticking to the Adjective Noun combo to make things simpler. Especially if your going to be making waves with Chapter numbers.

 

The Masterless Children

The Masterless Stars

Hmmm its a thinker.

[Captain Juan Juarez]

The Masterless Ones.

[Espada Azul]

Guys, we have an official GW Chapter that is called the Nameless (heck, check the Star map on my sig, based on the 5th Edition Codex -- their home world is on the extreme lower left corner). I think The Masterless works well enough.

[Marshal Rohr]

We dont know if thats a chapter or a name given to a chapter who no one knows the name of.