Gentlemanloser Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Daemonhunters Codex DL is under: WH 40K Armies - DH - DH Articles - DH: Codex Download. http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Custom...__Daemonhunters (You need to be signed into the site to get this) No Unit or Wargear Changes. Allies are out, as are inducted units. The page with the descriptions of 'Grey Knights' and 'Daemons' has gone as well. Opens up discussions about exactly 'what' Daemons are now. Witchhunters Codex DL is under: WH 40K Armies - WH - WH Articles - WH: Codex Download http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Custom...__Witch_Hunters (You need to be signed into the site to get this) Allies are out, but inducted units remain (Page 16 of the PDF). Page numbers at the bottom of each page have been updated, but no text entries for page numbers have (If you guys wanna list up any other discrepancies, I'll try to keep this OP updated. :P ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Don't suppose we could get a link to the PDFs? I did not find them on the GW website, and doing an internet search for Daemonhunter Codex PDF tends to produce the wrong kinds of results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 You can still ally Inducted-IG and Allied-SM to your WH army/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 already noted in the inquisition 2010 thread....and personaly I'm furious at the way this has been handled. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 Edited link in to OP. You can still ally Inducted-IG and Allied-SM to your WH army Had a look at the WH PDF. Couldn't see any ally rules in there either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 its just before the HQ section, after wargear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltnot Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Allies are out but inducted units are still available, page 16 of the pdf in the left hand margin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 Thanks! Updated. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretic??ME?? Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Oh dear. This was the perfect opotunity to fix some of the problems. GW=LAZY They are probably throwing the codex PDFs for free to shift old stock. This is not a good sign. How many players use DH/WH as allies? They just shot down two codexes in one go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 yup heretic that is what happened to me, I'll gladly start a SOB force and keep my GK's for apoc, I just have to wait for plastic sisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 This is not a good sign. How many players use DH/WH as allies? How many people use the Inqusitor with Mystic setup as allies?-Felt that was more appropriate. It's a bummer that allies are out, I was looking into a Vindicare to upset people but I'll have to use apocalypse now. Not too bad for me as that was the intention (Sisters of Silence and Adeptus Custodes) I think this is actually a good thing, it gives me hope that gears are in fact moving. Updating the codex is a no-no, they don't want to balance it if they're working on a new one, they make a change they'd pretty much have to alter the entire codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 But they're happy with gutting the DH by removing Inducted units along with Allies? How many current DH/GK players use inducted guard to actually compete? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souba Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 in the german version of the PDF the inducted rule is still in there, on page 20. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Oh dear. This was the perfect opotunity to fix some of the problems. GW=IDIOTS They are probably throwing the codex PDFs for free to shift old stock. This is not a good sign. How many players use DH/WH as allies? They just shot down two codexes in one go. Fixed that... :ermm: Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltnot Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Have noted that they updated the page numbers at the bottom but none of the referenced page numbers in the text for the WH codex. Haven't noticed anything else different from my codex (latest printing). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Could they have at least brought the rhino in the WH in line with everyone elses that is a bunch of ;) :cuss if you ask me.....very little I would have cared about but 50 pts still for a rhino. :cuss I am glad I still have my dex instead of going out and buying new cartridges and paper to print this I will not need to and can save my money cause GW likes :cuss over the Sisters of Battle players. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 With the option for inducted IG now gone, the DH is officially a dead codex. :( They're at Necron quality now. There is NO competitive build available to the DH. Enjoy your friendly games with your Grey Knights and ISTs -- 'cause that's all that is left to you -- but don't expect to win too often. I wouldn't recommend taking this army to any tournaments. Mech Sisters still live on. And they can still induct, too. They've got at least two good builds available. :D If you can both find and afford the models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 LOL for chaos daemons players :D Since there's no list on the DH'dex saying what are daemons or not, and now it is the latest codex, any unit in the chaos daemons dex is a daemon, so they the DH rules apply on them :( I believe that removing allies is in unexpected mistake. Seems like those rules were just cut out because the focused on getting only the list pages, without examining the codex. I really doubt that GW plans do disallow using DH Inqs with IG, that is a gold mine right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 Unless your were really trying to rule lawer a Chaos Dameon Prince not being a Dameon, it already did. :D But now, there's no explaination. Nor is there one for who's a Psyker in the DH, or how GKT with Holocaust work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Unless your were really trying to rule lawer a Chaos Dameon Prince not being a Dameon, it already did. :D But now, there's no explaination. Nor is there one for who's a Psyker in the DH, or how GKT with Holocaust work. I agree with you, I'm talking about some crybabies CD players, that really tried to rule lawyer the GK benefits out (like the GK were a top tier) in some recent discussions :( With no explanation, common sense applies. What bothers me a bit is that Avatars will no be considered daemons anymore??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Yes, Eldar Avatars will still be considered Daemons because the Eldar codex says so. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Yes, Eldar Avatars will still be considered Daemons because the Eldar codex says so. :D Great, didn't know that, thanks! :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandal Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 As there is no page describing what a Grey Knight is anymore, does this mean that our special rules now apply to Grey Knights Land Raiders / Crusaders and Grey Knights Dreadnoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I would imagine since the entries themselves specify "Grey Knights: Grey Knights are subject to the special rules on page X" on a unit by unit basis we can only call things "Grey Knights" if the entry says they are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brovius Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Shrouded Land Raiders! Not that i used allies anyway, but i feel sorry for those DH players that use inducted units. At least we can claim something out of it though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204873-pdfs-are-up/#findComment-2443627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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