Jarl Bloodwolf Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I here by set myself the task of creating a epic model from each of the 20 legions. Below is a list of models I will make and those I need help with FOR UPDATEED LIST SEE BELOW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosRaptor Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Sounds like a great idea! If I could suggest a few... Salamanders: Master of the Forge/ Forgefather/ something along those lines. Iron Hands: I think they're called Iron Priests, extensive bionics, similar role to a chaplain if I recall. Luna Wolves/ Sons of Horus: If I remember right, they had an elite squad of Terminators lead by Abaddon called the Justaerin. You could try one of those. Dark Angels: I imagine some sort of Chapter Master. Blood Angels: One "epic'd" Sanguinary Guard. Death Guard: Mortarion was always followed by two marines wielding Manreapers, known only as the "Deathshroud". Possible option there. Thats all I can think of right now, hope that helps. :lol: Good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 Sounds like a great idea!If I could suggest a few... Salamanders: Master of the Forge/ Forgefather/ something along those lines. Iron Hands: I think they're called Iron Priests, extensive bionics, similar role to a chaplain if I recall. Luna Wolves/ Sons of Horus: If I remember right, they had an elite squad of Terminators lead by Abaddon called the Justaerin. You could try one of those. Dark Angels: I imagine some sort of Chapter Master. Blood Angels: One "epic'd" Sanguinary Guard. Death Guard: Mortarion was always followed by two marines wielding Manreapers, known only as the "Deathshroud". Possible option there. Thats all I can think of right now, hope that helps. :lol: Good luck! I like the suggestions for the Luna Wolves and Death guard. I think I might do a BA captain fighting a Bloodletter instead of the Sanguinary Guard. The Master of the forge seems a little generic to me but I'll toss it around. Iron priests are techmarines for the Space Wolves, if memory serves Forgefathers are the Iron Hands. But thanks for the ideas I'll deffinitly use the Luna Wolves and Death Guard ideas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnil Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Night Lords: Zso Sahaal...talonmaster Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 Night Lords: Zso Sahaal...talonmaster Who is that? I would actually like to stay away from named characters but if the Talonmaster is a position held by multiple multiple members then I'd be fine doing that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
humør Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 You could also make a member of the Mournival for the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosRaptor Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I like the suggestions for the Luna Wolves and Death guard. I think I might do a BA captain fighting a Bloodletter instead of the Sanguinary Guard. The Master of the forge seems a little generic to me but I'll toss it around. Iron priests are techmarines for the Space Wolves, if memory serves Forgefathers are the Iron Hands. But thanks for the ideas I'll deffinitly use the Luna Wolves and Death Guard ideas No problem, but you were right about the Iron Hands; They are actually called Iron Fathers. :D To quote Lexicanum: "Iron Fathers are a rank within the Chapter of the Iron Hands combining that of Chaplain and Techmarine." For the salamanders, the only reason I suggested Master of the Forge was because of the Vulkan He'stan mini...he holds the rank of Forgefather. and with that Talonmaster, I'm reasonably sure that was the rank name of the Night Lords First Company Captain, maybe prior to the Heresy. Still looking forward to your progress. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 You could also make a member of the Mournival for the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus. I would but again I'm wanting to stay away from named characters as most of them have established appearances and I want the freedom to make these heros look how I want them to without having to stick within the confines of a characters looks. Thank you for the suggestion though I like the suggestions for the Luna Wolves and Death guard. I think I might do a BA captain fighting a Bloodletter instead of the Sanguinary Guard. The Master of the forge seems a little generic to me but I'll toss it around. Iron priests are techmarines for the Space Wolves, if memory serves Forgefathers are the Iron Hands. But thanks for the ideas I'll deffinitly use the Luna Wolves and Death Guard ideas No problem, but you were right about the Iron Hands; They are actually called Iron Fathers. :rolleyes: To quote Lexicanum: "Iron Fathers are a rank within the Chapter of the Iron Hands combining that of Chaplain and Techmarine." For the salamanders, the only reason I suggested Master of the Forge was because of the Vulkan He'stan mini...he holds the rank of Forgefather. and with that Talonmaster, I'm reasonably sure that was the rank name of the Night Lords First Company Captain, maybe prior to the Heresy. Still looking forward to your progress. Hm I'll toss around the Iron Father idea. Its to bad that there hasen't been a special unit or position released for pre heresy. As for a Forge Father I'd rather do something differant. I'm wanting to do something iconic for the legions that for the most part hasen't been done before. And for the Night Lords I've decided to do a pre heresy raptors seargent. On another note suggestions don't have to be from the command of a legion as sometimes the Legions are better represented by the rank and file troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 But isnt the Forge father the guy who goes insearch of the primarchs lost relics? The point being pre-heresy, there are no lost relics as they still have the Primarch... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 But isnt the Forge father the guy who goes insearch of the primarchs lost relics? The point being pre-heresy, there are no lost relics as they still have the Primarch... True he is responsible for searching for the 9 gifts of Vulkan BUT that dosen't mean that the position didn't exist prior to the HH, it's just if it did those who held the position didn't have the same responsibilities they do in the current 40k universe. In all I probably still won't do it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaeken Templaris Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Just to note Iron Fathers have been around since the heresy "During the Great Crusade, the Iron Hands were engaging a war of extermination against the Diasporex. One Iron Hand captain known as Balhaan failed in his duty in destroying a small fleet of theirs due to treachery on their path. Though Ferrus Manus was tempted to take Balhaan's head off for his failure, his Equerry advised him to instead place an Iron Father in joint command of the Ferrum as punishment. " Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 Just to note Iron Fathers have been around since the heresy "During the Great Crusade, the Iron Hands were engaging a war of extermination against the Diasporex. One Iron Hand captain known as Balhaan failed in his duty in destroying a small fleet of theirs due to treachery on their path. Though Ferrus Manus was tempted to take Balhaan's head off for his failure, his Equerry advised him to instead place an Iron Father in joint command of the Ferrum as punishment. " Well thats good to know but with all due respect no one said anything about Iron Fathers not being around since the heresy lol I don't want to sound rude or anything it's just thats kind of out of left field lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2444982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnil Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Zso Sahaal invented the Raptor Squad and was dubbed "Talonmaster" by The Night Haunter as he was the first raptor. He is the reason we all have assault marines today. The book "The Lord Of The Night" is about him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2446079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share Posted June 26, 2010 Zso Sahaal invented the Raptor Squad and was dubbed "Talonmaster" by The Night Haunter as he was the first raptor. He is the reason we all have assault marines today. The book "The Lord Of The Night" is about him. Oh ok cool. Well he sounds like a great character abd I'll have to read the book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2446100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnil Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 It was the second 40k book I ever read after the blood ravens books which I read after the Dawn of War games which is actually how I got into 40k and I swear by it! It is still my favorite! I am also rather sure that Talonmaster is a title if you want to move away from named characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2446106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Ok it is time for an update (sorry no pictures yet). I have changed the name for the thread as I have slightly tweaked my original project. Instead of doing all pre-heresy models I am going to do the traitor models pre-heresy and the loyalist models post heresy so everyone will be loyal. I am also going to be doing 2 models that aren't apart of the original 20 legions a Black Templars Marshal and a Grey Knight hero and I'm debatng a seargent of the Adeptus Custodes. Each of these models will be heroicly posed and I will try to convert them to be unique but I still am having a few problems that I need help with. First there are still a few of the 20 legions that I am having trouble deciding what to make to best represent them, thanks to a few suggestions and my own research a few blanks have been filled in but not all and I would like to re-state that I will not be doing named characters even if there isn't an established look for them. Second I want to have an enemy on their base in one way or another. I have chosen a few and they are set and I would appreciate suggestions on those I wont have listed. And last of all their are a few models that I am having trouble coming up with poses for. If you could help out in any of these 3 areas it would be appreciated. So that you know which Legions I need help on here is the updated list of what I have. Pre-Heresy Emperors Children Figure: Lord Commander Pose: Will have 2 weapons one blocking weapon the other impaling enemy Enemy: Laer Iron Warriors Figure: Warsmith Pose: Unknown Enemy: Unknown Night Lords Figure: Raptors Seargent Pose: Surprise impalement of enemy from the air Enemy: Unknown (gang member from crime lord?) World Eaters Figure: Legion Champion Pose: Gladiator esque Enemy: Ork Death Guard: Figure: Death Shroud Pose: Standing scythe in hand over dead enemy Enemy: Unknown Thousand Sons Figure: Sorcerer Pose: using power Enemy: Unknown Luna Wolves Figure: Justaerin Terminator at culmination of Ullanor Crusade Pose: Fighting ork nob Enemy: Ork Word Bearers Figure: Chaplain Pose: Reading from Book of Lorgar over fallen enemy Enemy: Unknown Alpha Legion Figure: Effrit Stealth Marine Pose: Ghosting enemy soldier with hand over mouth and knife in other Enemy: Eldar ranger Post Heresy Dark Angels Figure: Terminator Librarian prior to the 1st company changing their colors Pose: Crossing staff with fallen blade Enemy: Fallen White Scars Figure: Khan Pose: Riding bike against leaping Eldar warrior Enemy: Eldar Space Wolves Figure: Wolf Lord Pose: raising axe/ roaring over defeated enemy Enemy: Thousand Sons Rubric Marine Imperial Fists figure: Captain Pose: Combat knife struggle with an Iron warrior during Iron Cage Enemy: Iron Warrior Blood Angels Figure: Sanguinary Guard champion Pose: wings spread impaling enemy 2 handed with spear Enemy: Bloodletter Iron Hands Figure: Iron father (or Molock terminator if they still exist post heresy) Pose: Unknown Enemy: Unknown Ultramarines Figure: 1st Company terminator seargent during the battle for Maccrage pose: Holding guant in powerfist while preparing to stab with powersword, 2nd gaunt on back Enemy: Tyranids Salamanders Figure: Veteran Pose: Killing Dark Eldar with flamer or melta gun Enemy: Dark Eldar Raven Guard Figure: Vanguard Veteran Pose: Destroying battlesuit Enemy: Tau Black Templars Figure: Marshal Pose: Charging forward swinging sword Enemy: Necron Grey Knights Figure: Justicar Pose: Impaling one enemy, shooting another Enemy: Daemonettes Well thats it so far. If anyone has any suggestions to fill in gaps I'd appreciate them. As far as model progression I am putting the finishing touchs on the Wolf Lord and will be posting them soon. Thanks in advance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnil Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 The night lord model could be ripPing apart an imperial assassin as one of those killed their Primarch. Salamanders should be the Forgefather perhaps shooting off necrons as he tries to get into an old ruin? The White Scars enemy should be the Dark Eldar as I'm pretty sure they lost their primarch in the warp as he went off looking for dark eldar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 The night lord model could be ripPing apart an imperial assassin as one of those killed their Primarch. Salamanders should be the Forgefather perhaps shooting off necrons as he tries to get into an old ruin? The White Scars enemy should be the Dark Eldar as I'm pretty sure they lost their primarch in the warp as he went off looking for dark eldar Night Lord can't be killing an assassin because all the models I'm making are loyal. It's before Night Haunter was killed The Forge Father as in the current one or a previous one? True but the WS also have been known to fight against the Eldar of Siam-Hann. If new DE models come out then maybe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Are you going to do an Imperial Fist? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Are you going to do an Imperial Fist? As my list states yes I will do a Imperial Fist but I don't know what the model will be or how he will be posed only that he will be fighting a Iron Warrior. Suggestions are welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Oh in that case make him doing a huge side swing with a 2 handed hammer! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Oh in that case make him doing a huge side swing with a 2 handed hammer! That could work. Would I have him just be a captain? also I was throwing around the idea of him and the Iron warrior kind of throwing it down in hand to hand like they lost their weapons and so are going at eachother with just there bad assedness Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnil Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Well any forge father I guess. For the night lords perhaps an alien or rebellious elements from the great crusade lashed to a rock behind him with flayed skin and runic designs carved into it's skin. As the night lord jumps towards a running and terrified enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Well any forge father I guess. For the night lords perhaps an alien or rebellious elements from the great crusade lashed to a rock behind him with flayed skin and runic designs carved into it's skin. As the night lord jumps towards a running and terrified enemy. Thank you for the suggestions but as I said above the Night Lords pose is already set and I won't be changing it. Any of the categories I have filled i are what I've decided on and they wont be changine, but I could still use help on those areas that aren't filled in Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2452708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 For the Salamanders might I suggest instead a Veteran laying a smack down on a Dark Eldar, possibly with a thunderhammer, on an ashy volcanic base. The resoning for this is that Vulkan, the Primarch, united his people to fight off the Darkj Eldar that were enslaving his people. I just figured a homage to that with a later marine might work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204913-heros-of-man/#findComment-2453072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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