Dragunov Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Hi all, I think this is my first post here so just wanted to say hi and that I love all the work on here! I especially liked the brilliant Dornian Heresy work, hence this post. I wanted to get a little practise sculpting, so decided on the amazing artwork for the Damocles Pattern Armour. Here's where I am up to after about 5-6hours work: http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/mark16_damocles_armour_scale.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/mark16_damocles_armour_2.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/mark16_damocles_armour_1.jpg Would love to have your feedback guys on the sculpt. Be as harsh as you feel you need to be, I would like the input! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I like the looks of it so far. It has good definition and detail. Look forward to seeing more. Good job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2444503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor101 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 But on a more serious note, that is very cool, and it's GW part free, so theoretically you could cast it and sell them.... *cough* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2444969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 But on a more serious note, that is very cool, and it's GW part free, so theoretically you could cast it and sell them.... *cough* I second that! I love this style of armor! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2445025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotbreak Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Very nice job, keep goin :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2445066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share Posted June 25, 2010 Thanks for the input guys and I loved that Borat thing...hahahaha...played over the speakers in the office now they all want it as a ring tone! On the casting thing, yeah I did think about getting a mold done of it if it turned out ok on the sculpt, so watch this space (marine...oh dear...) D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2445284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 I'll be watching this with interest. I'm trying to think where I've seen that style of armour before...............probably in some game or something. Wherever you drew the inspiration from, it's still recognisable as a Marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2445877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 reminds me very much of halo armour great stuff so far :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2445921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 The armor is from the Dornian Heresy right? The Ultramarines had it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share Posted June 26, 2010 The armor is from the Dornian Heresy right? The Ultramarines had it. Got it in one! Drawn straight from page 41-42 of the Dornian Heresy. Ultramarines have decided to open up the use of technology, in particular, that of the Tau. So stable plasma weapons, rail bolters, that sort of thing. D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor101 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 The armor is from the Dornian Heresy right? The Ultramarines had it. Got it in one! Drawn straight from page 41-42 of the Dornian Heresy. Ultramarines have decided to open up the use of technology, in particular, that of the Tau. So stable plasma weapons, rail bolters, that sort of thing. D Rail Bolters? I musta missed that part, DO WANT. You need to make a Rail Rifle-Boltgun hybrid for this marine now, even if it's slung or held in one hand. :P Rereading the Ultramarines section in the PDF is making me want to do an army, they seem to be the good guys, taking that award from the Tau in the normal timeline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Rex Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Outstanding work! I can't wait to see how this takes shape. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNONE Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 The picture in the .pdf looks like pulse-bolters to me, but the sniper scouts would surely have some cool, tricked out hybrid rail rifle. Can't wait to see this thing finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share Posted June 26, 2010 Maybe I imagined the rail bolters...wouldn't be such a bad thing!! D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggassmonkey Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I love this style of armour, and your sculpt so far is great. It does kinda remind me of the Cybermen though XD http://www.coolscifi.com/gallery/files/1/cybermen2.jpg P.S. I'll turn the img into a link if you want me to :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Didn't think it would inspire this much when I drew it... cool to see it coming to life...<_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Padawan Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 That is an outstounding piece of work there mate! What type of puttyare you using? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2446979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 Oh wow, total fanboy moment! Are you really the artist that drew this madscuzzy!? Brilliant, brilliant work, love it and need to see more!! In answer to the other question, a using fimo soft and fimo black mixed. D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2447389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Little bit of progress, just fleshed out the vambraces and upper arms, fixed a few little wrong bits and added the collar using some brass tube and putty. Still needs a few bits fixing up at this stage too, such as the top of the left shin plate. http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/IMG_7331.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/IMG_7337.jpg That's all for now guys, aiming to get the vambraces and hands fleshed out this evening. It may involve me making at least a stand-in for his plasma pistol to sculpt around and the banner pole. Anyone got any suggestions about how to sculpt the shoulder pads? D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2448714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund Himself Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Wow, looking great! Looking forward to seeing this finished :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2448748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Thanks Sigismund, much appreciated! Am having a little crisis... looking back at the artwork, the stomach plates seem a lot flatter and a little less overlap. I think I may have to trim and redo these plates...what do you guys think? D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2448751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I think it's your call. There is always room for artistic impressions. When I designed it, I based it off the tau plate design, which is basically just lines. Yours works too, as it helps deal with overlaps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2448879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 No, the torso is just fine, the overlap actually looks pretty good, its all about how you see it as an artist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2448913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor101 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 From an armor standpoint, you want those overlaps in the armor, imagine if a combat knife hit those plates, it'd skip from one plate to the next doing little if any damage to the armor. If it was like the Tau plates with hit little line insets it'd have no purpose other than decoration, and that's a Emperor's Children issue, I can't imagine these Ultramarines making armor without a utilitarian point of view taken into consideration. I personally also like the way the overlapping plates look, lets you have mobility without too much of a sacrifice in protection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2449153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Actually, while part of the design I had in mind was based off tau, I never stray to far away from Robocop's design. It is a big source of inspiration for me. The design for the mk16 is a combination of the current, tau and robo belly armour, as it still needs to move. Having armoured joints, but with gaps can possibly work, but is a weak point. Regardless it can be made to look cool too, and the added lines give detail, especially to some sculpt this large. The angled plates that you have are very practical and helps in realism. Even Hot Toys' Ironman Mk4 and Warmachine are using this design. So your call. robo 1 robo 2 robo 3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204961-mark-16-damocles-armour-sculpt/#findComment-2449345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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