Aqui Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 From an armor standpoint, you want those overlaps in the armor, imagine if a combat knife hit those plates, it'd skip from one plate to the next doing little if any damage to the armor. If it was like the Tau plates with hit little line insets it'd have no purpose other than decoration, and that's a Emperor's Children issue, I can't imagine these Ultramarines making armor without a utilitarian point of view taken into consideration. I personally also like the way the overlapping plates look, lets you have mobility without too much of a sacrifice in protection. As I recall from my history lessons, Roman soldiers used a similar method when they advanced on enemy positions in that their shields would overlap, thus leaving fewer weak points to penetrate (arrows, pikes etc). It certainly makes sense to me (and looks cool to boot so +1 from me :( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotgunFacelift Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Great sculpting work especially in the detailing around the collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 Thanks heaps for all the input guys, and coming from the source so to speak is a real bonus!! Have listened to all the information presented and it seems to me the way forwards is to leave the belly plates with an overlap, so that saves me a job! Thanks guys! Didn't take any piccies last night as the hand I was trying to sculpt was far to rubbish to share, so was dumped and I hit the internet in search of hints and tips. I think I have found a way forwards, so will try again this evening. Again, thanks for all the input everyone, and those Iron Man piccies are COOL! D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Hello all, update time! After a rather rubbish attempt at sculpting hands the other night, they were scrapped and I focused a little more and had a clearer idea of how I wanted to approach them. The fingers were sculpted, then cooked. Once cooled, the thumbs were then done. Makes things a whole lot easier! After cooking the thumbs, carefully removed the proxy stock from his steel like grip and I think, job’s a good ‘un. http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hands_1.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hands_2.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hand_close_up_2.jpg Oh, and don’t worry about the weird head looking thing in there, just some blutak to work out volume and scale for the helmet sculpt. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor101 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I searched for another Borat clip to share, and I found one that fit perfectly, but was offensive to women, so I chose not to post it. It's looking really good, if you ever decide to cast it and sell some, please let me know, I beg you, cause I really love these new Ultramarines. Are you gonna sculpt multiple weapon options? Or is he just gonna have one loadout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Seriously I want one of those ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 Thanks guys, been a while since I posted about this... Shoulder pads this time: http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/pads_11.jpg Here's a shot of some place holder items and the pads in place: http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/damocles-with-pads.jpg As usual, thanks for looking all! D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Seriously I want one of those :) I second this :P. Every time I look at this thread the figure is looking better and better James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotbreak Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Awesome idea/artwork/armour mk madscuzzy. GW should hire you to do the next SM codex artwork :D Getting more and more excited to see it finished and on display ;) awesome job Dragunov!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 he looks a wee bit skinny but i cant do any better. still want one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thanks guys! The skinny thing, yeah...I was seeing that a little too... I think the either the lower legs or the kneepads need a little 'beefing' up, what you think? D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodseeker36 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hey Dragunov, I am really inspired by this sculpt. I agree it just keeps getting better and better...I'm completely amazed. Very impressive work. Bloodseeker36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 OK, me again, not had a chance to work on this as much as I had wanted to, I stupidly said that I would have it built and painted by the end of July. That is not going to happen… Anyway, worked on the helmet, which took far too long to do, but there you go. http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/new_helmet_one.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/new_helmet_two.jpg Also, as a result of some feedback, I re-sculpted the knee pads. Much better now I think. D09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I think his limbs might need a bit of beefing up. I mean the upper/lower arms and the thighs and legs. But the head and test of the mini are perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogan Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I agree with Terminatorinhell (not completely, though, since there is no reason for one as pure as a terminator to go to hell). Your Mk16 armour is really sweet, but the Marine needs some more mass. He's too slender by now. Bulk 'em up, sez I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 OK, it's a fair point. Am working on adding some more bulk to the limbs and see where that leads. As I am going to miss my deadline anyway, figure I may as well get it right! Thanks for the input all and the extra work (grumble, grumble) hehehehe D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogan Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 You're welcome. And be sure, we like giving you extra work. We really do. Starting with some insignia - do it! This instant! ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SELECT * Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Wow! Reading the first page i was thinking about a hood, some joints protection and adding details to the back. And now, when you've done that... This marine looks fantastic! The only critics is about the position of the right leg's upper joint (when it connects with the body) - it looks awkward, maybe because of the angle. but it really looks unhuman to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 Wow! Reading the first page i was thinking about a hood, some joints protection and adding details to the back. And now, when you've done that... This marine looks fantastic!The only critics is about the position of the right leg's upper joint (when it connects with the body) - it looks awkward, maybe because of the angle. but it really looks unhuman to me. There has been something about that right side that has been a little skewed. It was based off a good armature, but I guess when I was laying down the body of clay it has become a little pushed out. I have not worked on that thigh as yet to bulk it out, I will try and bring the shape back into the ahem, crotch area, and see if that sorts the problem. If not, then I will have to saw off the leg and reposition... Isignia wise, not got any brass etch for the big Ultra symbol on the chest so will have to improvise on that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Hi all, after a lot of feedback and I must admit, I noticed it too, I have added more bulk to the lower portions of the armour. I also tried to fix a weird anatomy issue with his right hip, it looked a little…odd. Also did the Tau inspired plasma pistol. Needs a little filler here and there to really sharpen it up, but am pleased with how it came out. I added a quick layer of white primer to disclose any issues so I have some areas that need attention. http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/white_knight_1.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/white_knight_2.jpg Overall, not too far from the finish line from a sculpting point. I need to add some filler as some of the fimo has split in parts, I suspect that has something to do with repeated bakings, but have not got enough experience with it to say for sure. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Much better, I love it even more now! And that plasma pistol is very creative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Much better, I love it even more now! And that plasma pistol is very creative! Thanks mate! D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar mikael Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 dragunov, just wow! this is an amazing sculpt. i want an army of these dudes! i was dubious as to what the surface finish was going to be like but with that white prime it looks mint! the torso details are kick ass man, just lets see more more more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragunov Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 Thanks guys! Well after a bit of slight planning and some scratching of heads, decided to do the backpack as the hybrid I feel it’s meant to be. The backpack is not featured strongly in the artwork, so I hope I have done it justice here. Of the parts that I can see, I have tried to recreate. Make with the images I hear you say: http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/backpack_wip1.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/backpack_wip2.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/backpack_wip3.jpg http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/backpack_wip4.jpg Still needs a few bits here and there. Thanks for looking all! D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 The back pack looks fantastic, as does the rest of the model. The only thing I'm not 100% on is the plasma pistol. I love the design and look of it but I think it's a little too long. I know this isn't really an issue in terms of the marine being able to use it or anything, but I think it looks 'wrong' aestheticly speaking if you see what I mean. Just my opinion though. Thanks James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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