Brother_Cowboy Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Alright, so this question was posed to be over an Ad-hoc dinner we where having after a few games, and on further investigation I couldn't find a clear enough answer. Can Wolf guard lead a Skyclaw assault pack? Perhaps this has been asked a few times, or not, I couldn't seem to find another topic relating to it. If the answer is no, which I'm suspecting it might be, why? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 No, a Wolf Guard may not lead Skyclaws. Why? It is in the rules. There is a list of specific units that they can join and Skyclaws are not on it. This was not addressed in the FAQ and therefore seems like conscious decision. As to Why Why? It is probably based on fluff seeing as SkyClaws are supposed to be the trouble makers of the packs and getting a Jump Pack is seen as letting them learn their lesson faster. Also Jump Packs are seen by many old wolves as going against "how Russ intended it", fighting with both feet on the ground. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2445434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Cowboy Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share Posted June 25, 2010 ...hrrm. The argument towards "Oh, they are the new guys" doesn't make any sense as you can easily lead blood claws and their biker equivalents. It just seems weird that you can give them everything required to lead the packs, and you can lead every other pack, but you can't go near the skyclaws. Like an oversight or something... meh, either way. -1 LD. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2445438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 ...hrrm. The argument towards "Oh, they are the new guys" doesn't make any sense as you can easily lead blood claws and their biker equivalents. It just seems weird that you can give them everything required to lead the packs, and you can lead every other pack, but you can't go near the skyclaws. Like an oversight or something... meh, either way. -1 LD. It has nothing to do with them being the "new guys", they are the "bad eggs of the new guys".. those who perhaps endanger the safety of the whole pack with their antics.. this is all stated in the fluff of the Skyclaws entry in the Codex. As I said if it was an oversight it should have been in the errata but it was not. And that WGs and HQs can have Jump Packs is perhaps a way of showing that some of those bad eggs who used to be Skyclaws actually made it to be a pretty decent Wolf in the end but figured they wanted to have their jump packs back after being on the ground as Grey Hunters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2445447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaleOpener Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Alright, so this question was posed to be over an Ad-hoc dinner we where having after a few games, and on further investigation I couldn't find a clear enough answer. Can Wolf guard lead a Skyclaw assault pack? Perhaps this has been asked a few times, or not, I couldn't seem to find another topic relating to it. If the answer is no, which I'm suspecting it might be, why? A box labeled, " Pack Leaders ", is found in the Wolf Guard entry on page 86. It clearly states which packs a WG can lead. As to "why", and not to break the forum rules, page 32 of the SW codex gives the reason "why". ( Must read the full page to get the idea. ) They can still be led by a wolf priest ( to great affect ), just have them in packs of 10 with 1 meltagun/1 power weapon. Some take packs of 5 then DS them, though effective I rather use that same amount of points towards a LF pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2445487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen. Confusion Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Yeah, that would be great if they could. I would use sky claws a lot more in that case. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2445534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphius Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Why? Because someone was stupid and wouldn't allow it when they wrote the codex. Can you run a whole WG army with JPs? Check. Can you give Wolf Lords, Wolf Priests, WGBLs, and Rune Priests JPs to lead them? Check. So, It's not beyond IC's - The leaders of the company - to use JP's. AND it's not above WG to use them. - You can run an entire army with them. AND ICs don't mind jumping in with the Skyclaws. It's stupid. They should be allowed to lead Skyclaws. It infuriates me even more than not having the 13th in the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2445839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 i think it has to do with the part were skyclaws are the most trouble-some lot there is, so the wolf guard would kind of be dishonoring them selves by leading them. i think it is in their fluff or something like that. but other wise i don't think it to be much of a big deal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2445853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I wholely agree with Saphius. They just messed up again. Which they do quiet often. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2446201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the Green Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I agree that it seems like an oversight that the guard can't lead skyclaws. But i figure the wolf guard of my great company are just fed up with the obnoxious bloodclaws. With the wolfguard unwilling to lead them it falls on our wolf priest Sven Deathgaze to strap on a jump pack and deal with the noobs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2447259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarmb Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 It's a shame they can't. They're the one "Claw" unit, that I actually almost like. If there was a cheap leader option for them, I'd probably field them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2447311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the Green Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I field them regularly. Love them. They don't generally make up their points, but they frighten opponents and draw fire. As far as a leader, well a wolf priest with jump pack isn't cheap, but it is highly effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205027-wolf-guard-and-skyclaws/#findComment-2448614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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