Brooding Dark Angels?

[HsojVvad]

In a previous post I made, someone mentioned about brooding DA. Here is my question, wich I can't understand. Why do people say DA are brooding? I know they are dark and mysterious and could even be mean and vicious. But brooding? I don't see them like todays depressed wannabe goth kids. I don't even see them as a true Goth either. So what am I missing? I havn't read any fluff that is not in the 4th edtion codex. So I might be missing alot of things.

 

So can anyone say why DA are brooding super soldiers.

[TyrionTheImp]

Well, I think you're missing the definition of the word "Brooding". Brooding does not mean they're depressed emos or goths okay, but generally speaking the 40k Universe is VERY Gothic.

 

Anyways, here is the true definition of brooding from dictionary.com:

 

–adjective

1.

preoccupied with depressing, morbid, or painful memories or thoughts

2.

cast in subdued light so as to convey a somewhat threatening atmosphere

 

 

Both of those definitions can hold true to the Dark Angels. For those who know about the secret of the Unforgiven, the first one can apply. Having half of your legion become traitors in the blink of an eye can be quite painful and even depressing, but they're certainly not being emo about it. They're going out and beating the crap out of and capturing their former brethren not sitting around going, "Oh dear, half of our legion is a bunch of traitors, lets just sit around all day and talk about our emotions."

 

The second one can apply to the chapter as a whole, because they sort of keep to themselves more so than other chapters, leaving an air of mystery that many people may feel threatened by. Of the few imperial citizens that know anything in particular about Space Marines, I bet they know even less about Dark Angels than any other chapter, and people tend to fear what they don't know about or understand.

[FerociousBeast]

The common emo accusation is unfounded. Dark Angels are more like stubborn, angry, vengeful dwarfs than mopey, weeping emo kids (I call them emoaners).

[HsojVvad]

The thing is, most DA don't even know about Fallen. Maybe less than 10% know the secret about the Fallen so why would they be so upset about it? To be a DA I thought there was pride in it. Pride, respect and honour. Nothing moody about that.

 

When I first started DA, I thought all DA knew about the Fallen so I thought ok, that is why they are moody, but now knowing only the Deathwing know about the Fallen and maybe the Ravenwing, (I don't think they know, but they play a big picture in the caputre of it I belive) that means the chapters from 3rd to 10th don't know nothing of the Fallen at all. So why would the other 900 members of the DA chapter sulk not knowing of the fact half their brothers 10 000 years ago turned on the Emperor?

 

The other 900 DA, are proud, full of pride and respect to be a DA.

[Chaplain Lucifer]

So why would the other 900 members of the DA chapter sulk not knowing of the fact half their brothers 10 000 years ago turned on the Emperor?

 

because of how the other behave. It's in their nature... Ten thousand years ago after Lion was dead and Imperium was in shambles...., everyone was brooding.. they had thirst for vengeance, they were angry, revolted at their brothers, they were loathing what happened.. So Imagine ten millennia ago a recruit would be just like the ones around him.. so basically it's ingrained in their nature.. they become brooding reclusive and aloof because everyone is like that... and each and every recruit meets this situation and will become like the others around.

[Alys Dwr]

because of how the other behave. It's in their nature... Ten thousand years ago after Lion was dead and Imperium was in shambles...., everyone was brooding.. they had thirst for vengeance, they were angry, revolted at their brothers, they were loathing what happened.. So Imagine ten millennia ago a recruit would be just like the ones around him.. so basically it's ingrained in their nature.. they become brooding reclusive and aloof because everyone is like that... and each and every recruit meets this situation and will become like the others around.

I agree with this, and also that it's not just nature it's nurture. It's the way they're raised; a doctrine of training spawned from a chaos infested death world doesn't give the happy* temprement of a pleasant capital world such as Macragge.

 

*happy in a relative way.

 

Having half of your legion become traitors in the blink of an eye can be quite painful and even depressing

Slightly off topic, but it was hardly in the blink of an eye. I'd say more along the lines of "having half your legion turn traitor right under your nose wthout you noticing". This is far more depressing, it undermines the belief in ones self and ability.

 

Al

[I am the Stig]

The thing is, most DA don't even know about Fallen. Maybe less than 10% know the secret about the Fallen so why would they be so upset about it? To be a DA I thought there was pride in it. Pride, respect and honour. Nothing moody about that.

 

This. The reason the Dark Angels get so much emo schtik is because thats the demeanour of the more famous of the chapter-guys like Azrael, Belial, Sammael, guys who know about the Fallen. The average Dark Angel is probably a perfectly nice guy (well, as "nice" as an eight-foot tall genetically enhanced superhuman killing machine can be), but GW doesn't care about those guys do they?

[mysideofthemirror]

You also have to remember that all the Dark Angels have the gene seed of the Lion, who by all accounts was the best tactician of all the primarchs, but wasn't really a people person, and could definitely be accused of being brooding(1)

 

1.

preoccupied with depressing, morbid, or painful memories or thoughts

[Alys Dwr]

You also have to remember that all the Dark Angels have the gene seed of the Lion, who by all accounts was the best tactician of all the primarchs, but wasn't really a people person, and could definitely be accused of being brooding(1)

 

1.

preoccupied with depressing, morbid, or painful memories or thoughts

not to throw a spanner in the works, but there is no direct link between the Lions persona and the rest of the legion through his gene seed. He developed these personality traits after being fired across the universe and going through his own life experiences. The gene seed of the DA was vat grown from his pre-Caliban template and has been passed on from marine to marine.

 

Al

[Octavulg]

Another thing is - as a Dark Angel rises through the ranks, he will find out more and more about the Fallen. Meaning he will soon discover that his own brethren routinely lie to him and keep the truth from him because he cannot be trusted.

 

I'd become a little brooding, too.

[Arioch]

You also have to remember that all the Dark Angels have the gene seed of the Lion, who by all accounts was the best tactician of all the primarchs, but wasn't really a people person, and could definitely be accused of being brooding(1)

 

1.

preoccupied with depressing, morbid, or painful memories or thoughts

not to throw a spanner in the works, but there is no direct link between the Lions persona and the rest of the legion through his gene seed. He developed these personality traits after being fired across the universe and going through his own life experiences. The gene seed of the DA was vat grown from his pre-Caliban template and has been passed on from marine to marine.

 

Al

 

Well I dont think its impossible that Jonson was a little brooding to begin with. At least I think that the Dark Angels was originally designed to reflect the character of their primarch.

If I lived in the 41. millenium, was a supersoldier and was fighting day and nigth and knew we were all doomed anyway...I would be a little brooding to. Quite natural I think. Perhabs other chapters use drugs? Or ale like the spacewolfs.