sword brethren Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 hey i found loads of spare parts in my bits box and built a dark apostal in termy armour (still need a head though...) so i was wondering whether its fluffy to just paint him up iron warriors or whether i should really paint him up as an allied legion like word bearers. what is everyones opinion, do evil chaplains remain in in the legions other than word bearers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miteyheroes Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 hat is everyones opinion, do evil chaplains remain in in the legions other than word bearers? They've said before that the Word Bearers are the only CSM Legion to still use chaplains. So personally I'd go for him as an allied Word Bearer. Still, there's always room for one or two exceptions if you really want to have an Iron Warrior Apostle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Actually I get the sense that Iron Warriors never had chaplains to begin with. Remember that chaplains were an invention of Lorgar's that was spread among the other legions to enforce the decision of the Council of Nikea as well as general faith in the Emperor and the Iron Warriors are specifically stated as lacking in faith, and so probably never had chaplains as such, instead having the Warsmiths fulfill that role kind of how Iron Fathers fulfill it in the Iron Hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Look at Eliphas from DoW games, in Dark Crusade he was a Word Bearers' Dark Apostle, in Chaos Rising he's working for the Black Legion.... Feel free to use them. :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Promises of power and grandeur can buy many a fallen warrior to your side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 awesome, because i really like the pose he has now i finished him, it would be a shame to waste him. ill probably run him as a termy champion with 4 other termies in one land raider while my warsmith has another 4 termys. give the second in command impression :) thanks guys :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I think there is a difference between an active chaos chaplain like a dark apostle and a former chaplain turned to chaos. The second version is much easier to justify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Look at Eliphas from DoW games, in Dark Crusade he was a Word Bearers' Dark Apostle, in Chaos Rising he's working for the Black Legion....Feel free to use them. :) True, but then the Black Legion is unique in the fact that they will take in just about anybody willing to work with them. Most of the other Chaos legions are not nearly so flexible about taking in strays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Look at Eliphas from DoW games, in Dark Crusade he was a Word Bearers' Dark Apostle, in Chaos Rising he's working for the Black Legion....Feel free to use them. :D True, but then the Black Legion is unique in the fact that they will take in just about anybody willing to work with them. Most of the other Chaos legions are not nearly so flexible about taking in strays. Additionally, the DoW games are not exactly canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumai Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Paint job in progress: http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/members/jumai-albums-jumai-s-figures-picture9735-bearer-chaplain-3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Canoness Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Lets not forget 10,000 years have passed - pleeeeeeeenty of time for a Chaos Marine in the Iron Warriors to think of a new calling in his legion :) I never thought the Iron Warriors would be all that big into sorcery, but Storm of Iron sure showed me now didn't it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 It's not sorcery they aren't into, it's faith. A sorcerer is not the same thing as a dark apostle. In fact, when Lorgar created the chaplain class in the original legions it was precisely to prevent the practice of sorcery which became outlawed after Nikea. The Iron Warriors are specifically stated to be cynical and lacking in faith, and so chaplains among them would be highly improbable, especially given that it has been stated that the WB are the only legion that keeps chaplains. That said, a chaplain from some chapter could in theory fall and join an Iron Warriors grand company, though him gaining any kind of authority seems a stretch and is really out of theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 to clarify this and avoid fluff issues he is just a terminator champion with a kick ass mace like weapon. because lets face it, iron warriors dislike faith and anybody with some sort of faith would not get to the number 2 spot in the army. thanks for all the advise and chatter guys :cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffy.Gee Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 As a reward for everyone's advice, I think we should get some pictures of the WIP and final product. ;) JG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 to clarify this and avoid fluff issues he is just a terminator champion with a kick ass mace like weapon. because lets face it, iron warriors dislike faith and anybody with some sort of faith would not get to the number 2 spot in the army. thanks for all the advise and chatter guys ;) That nicely bypasses any fluff concerns. If you wanted to, you could have said mace-like weapon be a trophy the Champion took from a Chaplain he killed in battle (Loyal or Word Bearer). It is common enough to take trophy weapons after all, and it adds a bit more flavor to the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 to clarify this and avoid fluff issues he is just a terminator champion with a kick ass mace like weapon. because lets face it, iron warriors dislike faith and anybody with some sort of faith would not get to the number 2 spot in the army. thanks for all the advise and chatter guys B) That nicely bypasses any fluff concerns. If you wanted to, you could have said mace-like weapon be a trophy the Champion took from a Chaplain he killed in battle (Loyal or Word Bearer). It is common enough to take trophy weapons after all, and it adds a bit more flavor to the character. sounds good to me ;) " oi! *punches* i'll be having that fancy mace if you don't mind" As a reward for everyone's advice, I think we should get some pictures of the WIP and final product. :lol: JG no WIP pic as i just got my camera back but... does the gold look ok i tried a new technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlâdvar The Destroyer Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 That dude does look awesome, I was also playing around with the idea of having a 'former' Chaplin too, as in my IW I already have a 'former' Apothecary, Techmarine, Company Champion & librarian. However, after reading this thread & fluff, I think i'll prolly go for an allied Dark Apostle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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