JAW

[Torin]

Good day brother,

 

I need answers for the following question. Because its becoming a debate at the moment at my current store.

 

Jaws of the World Wolf says: Draw a 24" straight line 'along the board' and may through terrain. Any models touched take Init test.

 

1. does along the board means the line must be on the table and i can't touch models on 1st floors of a ruin?

2. how bout models in a bunker?

3. most importantly can i draw the line in such a way that it touches my units as well? not purposely of course.

[hmk17]

This is covered in multiple topics, that your friend Searchy the servo skull is more than willing to help with. And he WANTS to help you...

 

Jaws of the World Wolf...

 

1. For this, refer to standard geometry. Lines that gain height or width become rectangles and cease to be lines. Along the board means flat on the table, you can't aim it into a building's upper levels. Those on the ground floor can be hosed though.

 

2. It passes through terrain, which bunkers are. If some guys are hiding in there, and the line would cross them, they too take the test.

 

3. Whatever the line touches takes the test, regardless of whose side they are on. Accidents happen when the wolf is hungry.

Remember, the fluff of JotWW is that the ground (table) splits open briefly to swallow the slow and unexpectant before swiftly closing to entomb all that fell.

[Simo429]

Does it work on units in combat

[Torin]

well some people dont agree with your second answer. they mention that bunker are treated as vehicle, so is not capable of harming unit in a bunker.

[Hymirl]

well some people dont agree with your second answer. they mention that bunker are treated as vehicle, so is not capable of harming unit in a bunker.

 

 

These people are correct. Units inside vehicles (and by extension intact buildings like bunkers) are safe.

[Aeddon]

Does it work on units in combat

Yes it can, the first model targetted cannot be in close combat but any models touched afterwords are affected.

[Lumdin]

It can go through combat but the first target model can't be in combat.

 

Space Wolf Errata -

 

Q. Does Jaws of the World Wolf allow the Rune

Priest to target specific models within squads?

A. Yes.

Q. How wide is the line for the Jaws of the World

Wolf power?

A. It’s a hairline, it does not really have a specific

designated thickness. We like to turn our tape

measures on one side and use their edge,

keeping it as straight as possible of course.

Q. Does Jaws of the World Wolf require line of

sight? Does it ignore terrain that blocks line of

sight (i.e., impassible terrain)?

A. As a psychic shooting attack, Jaws of the World

Wolf requires line of sight. The Rune Priest must

have line of sight to the first model that the

power affects – in effect he is treated as the target

model; the power just happens to hit everybody

else on its way through!

 

 

This means that the first target model can't be in combat as per shooting attacks but anything else along that 24" line can be.

 

At least that was my understanding.

[Skirax]

Couple of things:

Didn't think that Jaws made our own models die?

Can Invulnerable saves be taken? The entry just says, 'Removed from play'?

[The_Betrayed_Spacewolf]

no save except for maybe wolf tail talisman or some sort of psyker defense. armour and invulnerable saves will not save you from a a giant hole in the ground. only jet packs, skimmers, and a special anti psyker ability that keeps the ground from opening up under you.

 

at least thats what i think.

[stinkenheim]

Good day brother,

 

I need answers for the following question. Because its becoming a debate at the moment at my current store.

 

Jaws of the World Wolf says: Draw a 24" straight line 'along the board' and may through terrain. Any models touched take Init test.

 

1. does along the board means the line must be on the table and i can't touch models on 1st floors of a ruin?

 

No, the line is only along 'ground level'. It cannot go up the sides of buildings. The only terrain the line should be able to go 'up' are hills which are, in my group at least, treated as being the table top.

 

2. how bout models in a bunker?

 

No, models in bunkers are not actually placed in most situations in a similar way to embarked models. The rules for bunkers also state that models inside cannot be targetted so would beunaffected by the power.

3. most importantly can i draw the line in such a way that it touches my units as well? not purposely of course.

 

Yes, as has been said the first model affected has to be within LOS, range, out of combat and an enemy model. After that the line continues for the duration of its length affecting any models under the line friend or foe.

 

 

Also as has been mentioned no saves of any kind are allowed as the power doesn't cause wouns, it simply removes a model from play. Some psychic defences would work, but there aren't many that do much outside making the power harder to cast. WTT are the only thing i can think of that would prevent casualties.

[Skirax]

Jaws took out An'grath in one shot :P My favourite moment.

[hmk17]

well some people dont agree with your second answer. they mention that bunker are treated as vehicle, so is not capable of harming unit in a bunker.

 

 

These people are correct. Units inside vehicles (and by extension intact buildings like bunkers) are safe.

 

Going back over, yup. Forgot guys in bunkers and such buildings get removed from table as per vehicles. (p.79 BRB) 2/3 ain't bad for late night with no book. :)

[Torin]

well some people dont agree with your second answer. they mention that bunker are treated as vehicle, so is not capable of harming unit in a bunker.

 

 

These people are correct. Units inside vehicles (and by extension intact buildings like bunkers) are safe.

 

Going back over, yup. Forgot guys in bunkers and such buildings get removed from table as per vehicles. (p.79 BRB) 2/3 ain't bad for late night with no book. :sweat:

 

sorry hmk17, i dont get what you mean. "Forgot guys in bunkers and such buildings get removed from table as per vehicles". so you telling me that it JAW effect the unit or not.

 

cheer.

[stinkenheim]

he means units in bunkers are not on the table (in the same way that units inside vehicles are not physically put in the tank).

[Heimdall Skullcrusher]

well some people dont agree with your second answer. they mention that bunker are treated as vehicle, so is not capable of harming unit in a bunker.

 

 

These people are correct. Units inside vehicles (and by extension intact buildings like bunkers) are safe.

 

Going back over, yup. Forgot guys in bunkers and such buildings get removed from table as per vehicles. (p.79 BRB) 2/3 ain't bad for late night with no book. :(

 

sorry hmk17, i dont get what you mean. "Forgot guys in bunkers and such buildings get removed from table as per vehicles". so you telling me that it JAW effect the unit or not.

 

cheer.

 

not affected as they aren't on the table (as a unit in a vehicle is not affected)

[Wolfsrage]

Since this thread is up anyway, when casting JotWW from a vehicle, do I measure from the hull, as with other shooting?

[Heimdall Skullcrusher]

I would think so...

[stinkenheim]

Since this thread is up anyway, when casting JotWW from a vehicle, do I measure from the hull, as with other shooting?

 

It would be measured from the fire point not the hull as per the normal rules for models shooting from a transport.

Only powers/abilities which are area of effect such as BAs Blood Chalice, or Stormcaller/Tempests Wrath etc are measured from the hull.