Brother-Captain Lucius Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 In the BA Honour guard entry it states "One Honour Guard can be upgraded to a Blood Champion with power weapon and combat shield for + X points. My question is can he still take equipment after buying this upgrade? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 In the BA Honour guard entry it states "One Honour Guard can be upgraded to a Blood Champion with power weapon and combat shield for + X points. My question is can he still take equipment after buying this upgrade? only if the other equipment says it can be taken by a blood champoin, or by "any model", or the "entire squad". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2449198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 It says any Honour Guard can take X weapons for X points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2449217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
njm3 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 The blood champion gets a power weapon and combat shield. None of the other Honor guard upgrades replace a power weapon or combat shield. The entry for upgrading to a blood champion does not explicitly say it replaces all of his equipment, so as written, he would have a power weapon, combat shield, boltgun or bolt pistol, chainsword, frag grenades. page 81 doesn't help. So yes, in theory, you can upgrade the blood champion, but just about every other army list entry is "replace", except for the librarian HQ and the Furioso dreadnaught, the dred being explicit with upgrade/replace, and the librarian just being an enhanced stat line. Probably an editing mistake by GW, but hey, RAW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2449247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 You can not buy upgrades for the Blood Champion. He has his own statline. He is not an Honor Guard, he is a Blood Champion. The upgrades say "Any Honor Guard", so only someone with the stateline Honor Guard can buy them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2449335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 So by that then can you buy weapons for an honour guard and then upgrade him as you are not Replacing his weapons? *edit: Also 100th post woo! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2449343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
njm3 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 JamesI is correct, ignore what I said earlier. I looked through all the squad choices, and they word who can upgrade and how very specifically so you can't put heavy weapons on sergeants and other wonkiness, e.g. a "space marine sergeant" is not a "space marine" for upgrade porpoises. You can't pick to upgrade and then rearm or rearm and then upgrade to get around such a restriction, afaict. It also looks like the sanguinary novitate gets no upgrades or weapon choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2449381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 No way around it. JamesI is correct. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2449921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 No way around it. JamesI is correct. To be fair, I wish I wasn't. Would be great to get upgrades on a Blood Champion or Sanguinary Novitiate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2449924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Ah thats no bother I wasnt planning on taking him anyway just wanted to know! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205343-ba-blood-champion/#findComment-2450874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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