PA Librarian

[stinkoman]

I've been using a simple PA Librarian in the last couple of games, since i modeled up my own (pics to come later). I wanted cheap, but effective HQ unit, and since my reclusiarch has done me proud, i thought i'd give the libby a chance. And he has shown up that Reclusiarch to the point where i have a serious tough choice on which one to take.

 

Typically i've been loading him out with Shield of Sanguinius and Fear of Darkness and sometime with a JP. And since you can cast one power per player turn, i dont need to upgrade to cast both. That keeps my HQ to a minimum and allows me to run a boat load of FnP Jump/Trans troops.

 

Shield of Sanguinius has saved my but more often than not and Fear of Darkness has worked out to the point that it almost feels unfair. In the last two games i made a pack of long fangs, broadsides, crisis suits run off the table on turn one or two. i've also made some units fall back off of points and/or out of cover. im seriously thinking about modeling another libby up that looks like hes pushing units back with his psychic palm. it seems counter intuitive when you think about it, why would you want the enemy to fall back when you are trying to get to them as quick as possible.

 

What load powers/equipment/upgrades do you all use on your PA libby, if you use a PA libby?

[Leonaides]

why would you want the enemy to fall back when you are trying to get to them as quick as possible

So you can kill their buddies with your sudden advantage, while they're still wondering where their fire support has gone, and then you and all your mates can go racing off after those fleeing supprot units who've probably stopped to check if any of their firends have managed to get away from you yet... No-one wants to be hunted by an army of Marines without lots of friends nearby...

[Brother Nathan]

after my reclusiarch doing practically nothing in a doubles tourney over the weekend whilst the rest of the squad got plasmad to pieces im thinking a jumpy libarian with sheild of sanguinius and unlease rage. he will be accompanyied by a 10 man assault squad with 2 flamers power weapon and handflamer(it actually did well!) and a jumpy priest with powerweapon. in my turn he would be using unlease rage, in theirs i have the choice of sheild or rage, depending if im locked or whats about o assault me....

[stinkoman]

after my reclusiarch doing practically nothing in a doubles tourney over the weekend whilst the rest of the squad got plasmad to pieces im thinking a jumpy libarian with sheild of sanguinius and unlease rage. he will be accompanied by a 10 man assault squad with 2 flamers power weapon and handflamer(it actually did well!) and a jumpy priest with power weapon. in my turn he would be using unlease rage, in theirs i have the choice of sheild or rage, depending if im locked or whats about o assault me....

 

See, I cant imagine using my libby in CC. With only 2 wounds and no Invul, makes it kind of hard for me since he cost so much. i like the support/shooting attack role. but that's just me. i give him a jump pack or put him in a rhino with tacs just to make him more survivable and maneuverable.

 

Here is my custom BA Libby. in the stance aptly nicknamed, by a buddy of mine, "not in the face!".

 

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01309.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01308.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01307.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01306.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01305.jpg

[SamaNagol]

Fear Of The Darkness is the 2nd best power in the game after Lash.

 

IT'S FANTABULOUS!

[mlund]

I keep my Librarian simple. He's a 2W T4 model without an Invulnerable Save or Eternal Warrior who can get singled out in close combat. I give him a Jump Pack and that's it. His Psychic Powers are Shield of Sanginius and Sanguine Sword. He'll get your Assault Marines into close combat. He'll deal some serious death ignoring armor saves. He can break off and dismantle a Land Raider in close combat if that's what the situation calls for. Keep it cheap and keep it deadly.

 

- Marty Lund

[Redo]

I keep my Librarian simple. He's a 2W T4 model without an Invulnerable Save or Eternal Warrior who can get singled out in close combat. I give him a Jump Pack and that's it. His Psychic Powers are Shield of Sanginius and Sanguine Sword. He'll get your Assault Marines into close combat. He'll deal some serious death ignoring armor saves. He can break off and dismantle a Land Raider in close combat if that's what the situation calls for. Keep it cheap and keep it deadly.

 

- Marty Lund

 

I tend to agree with you here. I do not have a Termie Librarian or 5 Assault Terminators to back him up so I use a regular PA Librarian. As you said...he is T4 with 2 wounds and no invul. Save. I am certainly not going to give him the 50 point upgrade to Epistolary.

 

I always run my Libbie with Shield and usually with Unleash Rage, though I try to keep him away from dedicated assault units and hidden powerfists and the like...if you don't he will end up swatted like a fly. Unlike Mr. Lund here I do not recommend that he breaks off from his squad. I have never done it but I can imagine that if he is in line of sight to most units he will die. It does not take many shots to force to 2 wounds on power armour and one stray missile, lascannon shot or melta blast will crush him outright. Heck a combat squad of marines with a powerweapon or a cheap horde squad will swamp him in CC.

 

PA Librarians are there for support and to stay alive they need to stay with their support. They are not are solo combat unit. Just my take though.

[Zeller]

Bolt pistol and force weapon.

 

Fear of Darkness and Unleash Rage typically. I'll occasionally throw smite in there.

[Irabrai]

Bog standard equipment, Blood lance and Smite as the powers.

 

Think i've only played one battle where hes used a power - use a Reclusiarch more than my Librarian

[Firedrake28]

Power armor, Shield and Unleash Rage plus a hand flamer. The hand flamer is a little bit unorthodox but since it's cheap and the Librarian doesn't have BS5 like some of the other HQ choices in the book, I figured I might as well remove the roll to hit from the equation entirely. :P

 

This guy typically hangs out in a Rhino with a squad of Honor Guard or a Razorback with a small Assault Squad. I try to keep him near a Priest as often as possible as he can do an unholy amount of damage on the charge (it's not uncommon to land 3 or 4 wounds against WS4 T4 foes).

[Ultramarcos]

I always use one JP libby with Shield and unleash and one just PA with Shiled and sword inside the rhino

I believe the Fear of the Darkness works well if you know that you will play against lots of Leadership 8 or less...but in a tournament, chances are that you go agina either fearless or high leadership more often then not....I prefer to tool my libby to multiply the destruction capacity of my unities rather then use it as a weapon himself. but that's me.

[stinkoman]

yeah i tend to find some instances where Fear doesn't work out quite so well. im not counting on it, its like a bonus (but man when it hits). i mainly rely on the shield because where i play the terrain always seams pretty scarce. Though i do like the look on a SW player when his TW cav have to take that test at -2, even with a character. Now if i can only get them to break on turn one, with a 3d6 fall back, see ya!

 

for one of the more dominant armies being SWs, they do have relatively low leadership on their troops. most SW players try to get the two Meltagun squad in a rhino, so their base LD is going to be 8, with a neg 2, i would bet they run (and continue to run, if my fast rhino is still on the table).

 

Seems a lot of people use unleash rage. i might have to try it. though a chaplain does the same thing on the charge automatically, there are rare occasions where my enemy survives the charge. its sucks that the libby has to be in the unit, because he might not survive.

[Burningblood]

after my reclusiarch doing practically nothing in a doubles tourney over the weekend whilst the rest of the squad got plasmad to pieces im thinking a jumpy libarian with sheild of sanguinius and unlease rage. he will be accompanied by a 10 man assault squad with 2 flamers power weapon and handflamer(it actually did well!) and a jumpy priest with power weapon. in my turn he would be using unlease rage, in theirs i have the choice of sheild or rage, depending if im locked or whats about o assault me....

 

See, I cant imagine using my libby in CC. With only 2 wounds and no Invul, makes it kind of hard for me since he cost so much. i like the support/shooting attack role. but that's just me. i give him a jump pack or put him in a rhino with tacs just to make him more survivable and maneuverable.

 

Here is my custom BA Libby. in the stance aptly nicknamed, by a buddy of mine, "not in the face!".

 

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01309.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01308.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01307.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01306.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jdinze/40K/40k%20Blood%20Angels/DSC01305.jpg

 

You paint that sucka and you paint him now!

excellent work!

[Arturas]

Seems a lot of people use unleash rage. i might have to try it. though a chaplain does the same thing on the charge automatically, there are rare occasions where my enemy survives the charge. its sucks that the libby has to be in the unit, because he might not survive.

 

the great thing about unleash rage is that you can get re-rolls every turn instead of just when you charge. and yes the libby is frail but your opponent has to choose between the assault squad, the priest or the libby and it surprises me just how often they choose the squad. I usually use unleash rage and sanguine sword and make him an epistolary. a little spendy but very hard hitting. 4 WS 5 S10 hits w/ preferred enemy at I5. give him a jump pack and put him with an assault squad and he'll make you proud.

[Zid]

Fear of the Darkness and Rage normally.

 

I use fear to control/shoot away squads that are typically very hard to deal with (nobz, thunderwolf calv, running off infantry blobs of IG when theres no commissar). Rage gives your AM squad rerolls to hit.... something about 24 Str 5/I5 rerolls to hit, + 3 Str 5/I5/WS5 claws with reroll to hit, and finally 3 PF rerolls + my libby strikes fear in my foes... and usually results in me winning combat by a crapload.

 

If I'm feeling froggy (aka at larger point games) I run em as an epi with Sang sword and rage. Just for fun.

 

And I ALWAYS use a jump pack.