foolishzero Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I did a search and found a few things on how people deck out their army lists but nothing really specific on transports. I'm basically talking about Rhinos, Razorbacks, and Landraiders. Normally for Rhinos I just throw on some extra armor and call it a day. Razorbacks I'm a little stumped on. I like to take them with my Long Fangs but don't know if it's worth it to upgrade the gun or not. Landraiders I'm in the same boat. I love the Redeemer, however, a lot of Wolf Brothers here swear by the Crusader. So again, how do you equip your transports? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaleOpener Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Razorbacks have their uses, but I don't bother with them. They're a fragile piece of paper which carries a tiny squad, and an expensive weapon system, quickly to their demise. My rhinos are 'naked', spending the points where I need them the most. Crusaders are preferred for the 15 BCs & WP tactic. Land raiders are preferred for WG termies, or a lord attached to WG. Redeemers are great when used to plow through massed troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well Landraiders depend on what you taking, I usually run a crusader with Multi melta and Extra Armor. I choose the crusader as it is more versatile in an all commers list. Rhinos I dont think its worth taking Extra Armor unless you have an IC inside that you need to keep moving. Razorbacks, same as Rhinos again, but if you spending the extra points to get the Las and you have an IC in there id take extra Armor I dont run Rhions or Razors with a dozer blade.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sazzer Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I plan to give my Razorback a Lascannon and have it supporting my Rocket Launcher Long Fangs. It may be fragile, but the enemy can either shoot the Long Fangs OR the Razorback, not both, and by giving it the Lascannon it has strength and range to sit at the back with the Long Fangs dealing out death... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I plan to give my Razorback a Lascannon and have it supporting my Rocket Launcher Long Fangs. It may be fragile, but the enemy can either shoot the Long Fangs OR the Razorback, not both, and by giving it the Lascannon it has strength and range to sit at the back with the Long Fangs dealing out death... If only that were true,Just because they are shooting the long fangs dosnt mean they cant shoot the RB as well. they could out flank your long fangs and shot your RB. DP in a dread to get the razor and the long fangs.... there is no hard and fast rule with transports..... while you can use a RB as firing support with long fangs, if your not using it as a transport you have to think if those points could be better spent else where.... say a land speeder to harry the unit that would be shooting you long fangs.... for another 10 points you could have a dakka as support instead... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I plan to give my Razorback a Lascannon and have it supporting my Rocket Launcher Long Fangs. It may be fragile, but the enemy can either shoot the Long Fangs OR the Razorback, not both, and by giving it the Lascannon it has strength and range to sit at the back with the Long Fangs dealing out death... If only that were true,Just because they are shooting the long fangs dosnt mean they cant shoot the RB as well. they could out flank your long fangs and shot your RB. DP in a dread to get the razor and the long fangs.... there is no hard and fast rule with transports..... while you can use a RB as firing support with long fangs, if your not using it as a transport you have to think if those points could be better spent else where.... say a land speeder to harry the unit that would be shooting you long fangs.... for another 10 points you could have a dakka as support instead... Yeah, but RB could tank-shock/block the enemy which deep-strikes/outflanks to threaten the Long Fangs. Of course a TLLC/ML platform dread could serve the same purpose, but he is hell lot more expensive and will take away an elite slot, while RB is just a dedicated transport. And for DoW, they could just hop in the RB and drive on the table until they feel safe to disembark instead of slogging on their feet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sazzer Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 The benefit is that the Razorback can be bought as dedicated transport for the Long Fangs, so it doesn't take an org chart slot, whereas the speeders would need to take a Fast Attack slot. And what I actually meant is that - most of the time - one unit can target Either the razorback OR the Long Fangs, but not both... Any unit that fires at the Razorback is not firing at the Long Fangs, increasing their survivability some... As an added perk - you can deploy the razorback near the long fangs, providing them with cover and the ability to embark and move if absolutely necessary (but to be avoided), or you can deploy it nowhere near the long fangs, giving a field of fire over areas that the long fangs might not be able to see... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Hey look dont get me wrong, i dont disagree with the tactic, my main point was that saying "the enemy can either shoot the Long Fangs OR the Razorback, not both" is prehaps a little short sighted, that there are other options. I think the RB supporting LF is a fine idea and can work well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Hey look dont get me wrong, i dont disagree with the tactic, my main point was that saying "the enemy can either shoot the Long Fangs OR the Razorback, not both"is prehaps a little short sighted, that there are other options. I think the RB supporting LF is a fine idea and can work well. No offense taken - the Fang tolerates all opinions provided they are expressed by SW players :tu:. It all comes down to personal preferences and game style. RB for Long Fangs can be static platforms or they can quickly react and re-adapt to changing circumstances by intercepting targets that LF have no LoS against, re-deploying LF or in any other manner You can imagine. Remember, there are no Codex Astartes rules imposed on You and You can play with Your RB in a truly SW manner - even sending it away for some beer and staff for Fangies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sazzer Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Hey look dont get me wrong, i dont disagree with the tactic, my main point was that saying "the enemy can either shoot the Long Fangs OR the Razorback, not both"is prehaps a little short sighted, that there are other options. I think the RB supporting LF is a fine idea and can work well. It was my fault for not saying what I meant clearly :tu: I meant "Each individual enemy unit can (usually) shoot the Long Fangs OR the Razorback, not both", rather than meaning the enemy as a whole. Of course there's nothing stopping then enemy having some units target one and some target the other, but it does force them to split their fire rather than concentrate on only the one... (Of course - having two long fang units does this too, with a bit more punch behind it, but it does cost more...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Hey look dont get me wrong, i dont disagree with the tactic, my main point was that saying "the enemy can either shoot the Long Fangs OR the Razorback, not both"is prehaps a little short sighted, that there are other options. I think the RB supporting LF is a fine idea and can work well. No offense taken - the Fang tolerates all opinions provided they are expressed by SW players :tu:. It all comes down to personal preferences and game style. RB for Long Fangs can be static platforms or they can quickly react and re-adapt to changing circumstances by intercepting targets that LF have no LoS against, re-deploying LF or in any other manner You can imagine. Remember, there are no Codex Astartes rules imposed on You and You can play with Your RB in a truly SW manner - even sending it away for some beer and staff for Fangies. Agreed, I can say I am well a space wolf, I am of Direct Viking decent and even have a Futhark Rune tattooed on my neck... not to mention a healthy love of dark ales and a good fight.... http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/uruz.gif Uruz: (U: Auroch, a wild ox.) Physical strength and speed, untamed potential. A time of great energy and health. Freedom, energy, action, courage, strength, tenacity, understanding, wisdom. Sudden or unexpected changes (usually for the better). Sexual desire, masculine potency. The shaping of power and pattern, formulation of the self. Uruz Reversed or Merkstave: Weakness, obsession, misdirected force, domination by others. Sickness, inconsistency, ignorance. Lust, brutality, rashness, callousness, violence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2451865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 rhino's i run bare, razors will get a stormbolter and heavy bolter 5 shots on the move =) i take redeemer's with multi melta and extra armor, the cheapest of the land raider family. if you are playing nids using machine spirit to split fire from the flame storms is wonderous! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205513-how-do-you-equip-your-transports/#findComment-2452694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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