Considering trying my hand at this game!

[Wysten]

I brought the codex to have a good digesting to start with. Just wondering, what are the bare essencals I need to start off?

 

I imagine the space wolves battle force would be a good starting point with 1 Grey Wolve 10 man group, 1 10 Man blood claw, 5 scouts with a meta + Pod if I ever feel like weilding one. For £50 seems a bit intense, Probably obtain a rune priest and wolf guards soon after, what would the best way for obtaining these be? And have I got a solid plan?

 

I imagine E-bay shopping would be the most efficent way to do it.

[Guganation]

I brought the codex to have a good digesting to start with. Just wondering, what are the bare essencals I need to start off?

 

I imagine the space wolves battle force would be a good starting point with 1 Grey Wolve 10 man group, 1 10 Man blood claw, 5 scouts with a meta + Pod if I ever feel like weilding one. For £50 seems a bit intense, Probably obtain a rune priest and wolf guards soon after, what would the best way for obtaining these be? And have I got a solid plan?

 

I imagine E-bay shopping would be the most efficent way to do it.

 

Looks to me like you've got the right idea for starting out. A rhino or two will be needed. Luckily the BC squad in the battleforce can easily be used as another GH squad as they all have boltPistol and Chainsword.

A squad of LongFangs will be needed too. You'll want some sort of heavy support, and they are the best.

[Wysten]

Aye, the Rhino I will picked up when I need it. At the moment, I will be coming into this game with one friend, so chances are I may be trying out/observing others armies, and playing largely causal games with my own until I get the hang of it. Do I get a Razorback pack so it can be both a Rhino and Razor?

[Requiem of the Wolf]

The best starting point for a space wolf army involves the following models.

 

2 10 man squads of Grey Hunters. Preferably with 2 plasma guns and 2 melta guns,or 4 plasma guns.

the Space Wolf Pack box is a good place for this. The Battle force box might work also,but I don't know what special weapons it offers. For these,I would recommend either outfitting the plasma gun equipped squads with powerfists,and the meltagun squad if you get that with a power weapon. For each squad I would also recommend modelling on something to represent a Wolf Standard,as It is a very very useful peice of wargear.

 

a 6 man squad of Long Fangs. The best set up for those in my opinion is 2 lascannons and 3 missile launchers. For this,if you can't find someone to trade bits from the devastator box for,I would recommend just buying the individual peices on Ebay. The 6th guy just use a normal marine to represent him,as generally you dont want to spend points on him,as he will often be the first casualty from that squad.

 

2 Rhinos for your Grey Hunters. Now..When buying these,I would actually recommend you buy one Razorback box and one Whirlwind box,as both of those are Rhino's with an optional turret. IT will save money for you down the road. If you have the money to spare,getting a third,either Rhino or Razorback would also be a good choice. Basically,for your first three vehicles you want to get a Whirlwind,and at least one Razorback. The Long Fangs can be put in a Razorback which works nicely to transport them in Dawn of War games or you can field it as a Whirlwind to give yourself some extra fire power.

 

The final starter peice required is for a HQ unit. Now for starting out,I would recommend getting either a Rune Priest model to stand with your long fangs and give extra fire support to them,or remove the second special weapon from one of the squads of Grey Hunters and put in a Wolf priest.

 

This will give you enough to field from 700 to 850 points,which will cover all the smaller point games and give you a rock solid basis to build your army up.

Other purchases to consider for the future include a pack of Wolf Scouts...they are very very nice to use. Another squad of Long Fangs with 3 Heavy Bolters and 2 Missile Launchers.

 

Good luck to you and welcome to the best damn army in the whole game.

[Wysten]

I'm not sure what weapons the Battle Company has in it, but I do know it contains 5 Scouts. As said, I need another persons opinon on it. I must really thank you for the help, to be honest, for the Long Fangs I may well buy some of the incredable paints ones, as a the veterans my Space Wolves (or, indeed my lack of painting skills) to live up to. XD Then eventrally, once I've devoped my conferdence, start painting up some of my own after starting off on the upstarts. After all, thus far, after a painting sesson, I need lots of work doing to tidy up my technique.

 

Again, many thanks for the advice. ^^ That was roughly the set up I had in mind, what about Lone Wolves? What are they generally made off? And I assume wolf lords can be made from anything, provided it's noble and enpowering to look at.

[Coverfire]

Before you start building your army I suggest you check out this thread.

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=205042

[WG Vrox]

1 Battle Force box.

1 additional Space Marine tactical box.

1 Dreadnaught

1 Wolf Guard box set.

2 Razor backs. can be used as a Rhino

1 Predator / Setup with magnets to allow for weapon changes but most likely would run as a single Twin Link Laser.

1 Whirl Wind can be used as a Rhino

5 Long Fangs 1 squad leader from the box best setup would be 1 HB 3 ML and 1 LasCannon, use the ML from the tactical marine space marine box above.

 

Research a HQ that appeals to you and either get the blister or build him from your parts above. I would go with Logan and put him in the Drop Pod with your Wolf Guard.

 

This would give you the best chance to learn most of the options a space wolf army list can offer and decide what you like best about the wolves as well as the flexibility to use all your pieces as a core for any additions.

[Branek Icefang]

1 Battle Force box.

1 additional Space Marine tactical box.

1 Dreadnaught

1 Wolf Guard box set.

2 Razor backs. can be used as a Rhino

1 Predator / Setup with magnets to allow for weapon changes but most likely would run as a single Twin Link Laser.

1 Whirl Wind can be used as a Rhino

5 Long Fangs 1 squad leader from the box best setup would be 1 HB 3 ML and 1 LasCannon, use the ML from the tactical marine space marine box above.

 

Research a HQ that appeals to you and either get the blister or build him from your parts above. I would go with Logan and put him in the Drop Pod with your Wolf Guard.

 

This would give you the best chance to learn most of the options a space wolf army list can offer and decide what you like best about the wolves as well as the flexibility to use all your pieces as a core for any additions.

 

Vrox is spot on, the beauty of our battleforce is, unlike other armies who have specially made sprues, we literally just have 2 Wolf Pack boxes, a scout box and a drop pod whacked in there. All the fancy weapons are there, from wolf claws to plasma guns.

[Grimtooth]

1 Battle Force box.

1 additional Space Marine tactical box.

1 Dreadnaught

1 Wolf Guard box set.

2 Razor backs. can be used as a Rhino

1 Predator / Setup with magnets to allow for weapon changes but most likely would run as a single Twin Link Laser.

1 Whirl Wind can be used as a Rhino

5 Long Fangs 1 squad leader from the box best setup would be 1 HB 3 ML and 1 LasCannon, use the ML from the tactical marine space marine box above.

 

Research a HQ that appeals to you and either get the blister or build him from your parts above. I would go with Logan and put him in the Drop Pod with your Wolf Guard.

 

This would give you the best chance to learn most of the options a space wolf army list can offer and decide what you like best about the wolves as well as the flexibility to use all your pieces as a core for any additions.

 

Vrox is spot on, the beauty of our battleforce is, unlike other armies who have specially made sprues, we literally just have 2 Wolf Pack boxes, a scout box and a drop pod whacked in there. All the fancy weapons are there, from wolf claws to plasma guns.

 

No meltas.

[Wysten]

Ahhh, many thanks. ^^ As said, I am going to get into this rather slowly, probably starting by buying the Battle Force for the Grey Wolves and scouts, and then probably add stuff from there. I would assume it has much of the stuff of a smaller tactical box anyways, and at £40/£50 compared to £22 for 2 space wolf tacticals, seems to make sense to just get that.

 

Which sets have metas again? I assume the battle force/tactical set? Same with the Plasma weapons, I have yet to devopt the common sense not to use a exploding weapon that shoots mini suns at people. XD

[CainTheHunter]

Meltas are on the tactical marines upgrade sprue. GW also sells metal meltas in the packs of 5. Actually, meltas and missile launchers are the hardest bits to come across since SW need them en mass. I'd also suggest not to buy dreadnought and heavy support tanks initially - You should try to play some games and see what fits You most. If You buy WG terminators and SW battleforce, this actually gives You all three options for Elite FOC slots - scouts, wolf guards and Lone wolf (which can be made in terminator or power armor). See if You like any of these choices and then get some dreads.

[Grimtooth]

I like his shopping list but here is what I would suggest. Do not buy the Predator, Whirlwind, or Dreadnought. Do buy another tactical squad box in addition to the one he suggested. With my suggestions and his you could easily build the following:

 

HQ:

 

Wolf Lord/WGBL in Terminator Armor (made from wolf guard terminator box set)

 

Elite:

 

Wolf Scouts (made from battleforce and SW box bits)

Wolf Guard in Terminator Armor x4 in drop pod (made from wolf guard terminator box set and battleforce box)

 

Troops:

 

Grey Hunter x10 w/plasmaguns x2 in Rhino (combined tactical/sw boxes and razorback box)

Grey Hunter x10 w/plasmaguns x2 in Rhino (combined tactical/sw boxes and razorback box)

Grey Hunter x10 w/meltaguns x2 in Rhino (combined tactical/sw boxes and razorback box)

Grey Hunter x10 w/flamers x2 in Rhino (combined tactical/sw boxes and razorback box)

 

Heavy:

 

Long Fangs x5 & Pack Leader w/missile launchers x4 and lascannon (made from devastors box, sw box wolf bits, and tactical boxes missile launchers.

 

I say not to buy the tanks or dread just yet, because you have to yet to establish a core army yet before you head off into tanks and dread territory.

[CainTheHunter]

I say not to buy the tanks or dread just yet, because you have to yet to establish a core army yet before you head off into tanks and dread territory.

 

Seconded! I bought Predator very recently and after considering whether I want to build it or go into Vindicator area. Actually Predator Destructor and Whirlwind compete for the same slot in Heavy support FOC. Also, the issue I see is that two tactical boxes and devastators are not going to give You 4 rocket launchers but only 3.

[Grimtooth]

I say not to buy the tanks or dread just yet, because you have to yet to establish a core army yet before you head off into tanks and dread territory.

 

Seconded! I bought Predator very recently and after considering whether I want to build it or go into Vindicator area. Actually Predator Destructor and Whirlwind compete for the same slot in Heavy support FOC. Also, the issue I see is that two tactical boxes and devastators are not going to give You 4 rocket launchers but only 3.

Yea, I was thinking in my head 3 ML and 2 LC but didn't type it out. Dev box only has one ML.

[Quillen]

I always go through a company that does like 20% off. That way you get 20% more toys.

 

Do not glue melta and plasmas on the model. Use a pin and make it where you can switch. As you will, and it's silly to have flamers, meltas, and plasmas for each squad. Better for one model that can hold anything.

 

Yes buy razor backs, or better yet preds and then you can use them for anything. And you can use magnets on them to make them what ever is needed.

 

I would by one pack of Space Wolves and a box of tactical marines and then use the parts to make 2 packs.

[Wysten]

Aye, I was not going to get quite into the dreadnorts yet. They are an optional extra I may get later (though what a extra it is! XD) Though are they good on the table top? Just need to know as the friend I am causal with does have one from the Black Reach pack.

 

That being said, the army list does look pretty good and is probably fairly simlar to what I was thinking. I need to get a pretty good base of Grey Hunters to provide the raw muscle, much as I like the idea of shipping a land raider full of newly initated blood claws up to their mass. Only thing I was not thinking about immediately using was the drop pod, but that does sound a remarkly good idea with a mass of shooting termies.

[CainTheHunter]

Aye, I was not going to get quite into the dreadnorts yet. They are an optional extra I may get later (though what a extra it is! XD) Though are they good on the table top? Just need to know as the friend I am causal with does have one from the Black Reach pack.

 

That being said, the army list does look pretty good and is probably fairly simlar to what I was thinking. I need to get a pretty good base of Grey Hunters to provide the raw muscle, much as I like the idea of shipping a land raider full of newly initated blood claws up to their mass. Only thing I was not thinking about immediately using was the drop pod, but that does sound a remarkly good idea with a mass of shooting termies.

 

 

Actually dreads, You've been asking, are quite good in drop pods - but they need to be supported ASAP, otherwise they will be taken apart while Your main force drives accross the table. Dreads are good, but I've temporarily excluded them from my list, because I want to playtest lone wolves. Scouts and WG are my now solid choices for other elite slots. One of the beauties of dreads is that You can kit them out as You wish - You can create a walking weapon heavy platform with twinlinked lascannons and missile launchers on both hands, or create some close range monsters with heavy flamers and multi-meltas (this variant is usually dropped down on top of enemy). You can go for venerable dreads with increased stats and armor as well. The choice is up to You, but just like with WG, dreads tend to suck in the points, if You get too excited.

[Grimtooth]

Aye, I was not going to get quite into the dreadnorts yet. They are an optional extra I may get later (though what a extra it is! XD) Though are they good on the table top? Just need to know as the friend I am causal with does have one from the Black Reach pack.

 

That being said, the army list does look pretty good and is probably fairly simlar to what I was thinking. I need to get a pretty good base of Grey Hunters to provide the raw muscle, much as I like the idea of shipping a land raider full of newly initated blood claws up to their mass. Only thing I was not thinking about immediately using was the drop pod, but that does sound a remarkly good idea with a mass of shooting termies.

Good thinking. GH really are the muscle of the SW. Mine personally have rained down all types of hell and taken it as well. At the end of it all the enemy is vanquished and a few heads pop up from the rubble fang filled grins.

[spjaco]

I avoid ebay and go with Amazon. Unless I want to pick up an entire army in one go....

 

Wolf Guard Box Set..... huh, where did you find this gem? Would love to find one o those.

[spjaco]

I avoid ebay and go with Amazon. Unless I want to pick up an entire army in one go....

 

WG Vrox said - 1 Wolf Guard box set.

 

Wolf Guard Box Set..... huh, where did you find this gem? Would love to find one o those. Sounds like an old variant.

[WG Vrox]

I avoid ebay and go with Amazon. Unless I want to pick up an entire army in one go....

 

WG Vrox said - 1 Wolf Guard box set.

 

Wolf Guard Box Set..... huh, where did you find this gem? Would love to find one o those. Sounds like an old variant.

 

I meant the current Wolf Guard terminitor squad box. Very Nice models in that.

 

Highly suggest you support your local game store so you can always have a place to play and gather.

[spjaco]

Oh, okay, havent gotten my paws on that one yet, no pun intended.

 

Sorry bout the double post, net at office is stupid sometimes.

[Wysten]

Aye, I plan on doing a bit of both. I will probably get the battle force Box from there. As that will give me plenty to do in the meantime, then do Wolf Guard before fangs due to increased flexability so I can make a HQ too.

 

Where are the rune priests gotten from by the way? Just as a notice for later.

[Wysten]

As I have a couple more quirys, felt there was not much need to create a second topic. Forgive me for the double post.

 

 

Would it be considered fine to make a Wolf Lord HQ, but make him a champion in fluff terms? Just considering the method the Hammer of Anvil came to be, I would imagine most great companys would have their own champion. A next inline to the Wolf Lord incase he dies. As I simply plan to start off with a guy in Termi Armour with a pair of wolf claws and Saga of the warrior, or just mark of the wolven to repersent one such guy. Least until I could figure out which great company to dedicate myself to.

 

Got a bit of fluff mind you, but nothing that exceptional. Basically a blood claw being a sole survior of a botched landraider attack and ending up as a lone wolf of X amount of time, fighting to redeem himself by killing a self imposed oath of 140 of X race (for each one of his pack that day) and succeeds, though the grueling process turns him into a frenzed monster in close combat.

 

 

Plus, is it required to have a hard copy of the rule book? Just I find it extremely harsh that I paid £17.50 on codex, and have to splash out on another £25 just to get all the rules. >_>;

[Matt D]

Thats perfectly acceptable. If I were you I would use the wolf guard battle leader as a model for it and not the wolf lord. fluffwise it makes more since to me. I think that is a big reason that HQ unit is in the book... to me anyways. :D