DiY chapter idea

[CasualT]

So I want to make a DiY chapter and I was thinking about why they might have been founded. I want to make a chapter that was special ordered by the High Lords to accompany a Rogue Trader's fleet. Like maybe they owed his family a HUGE favor or something. This particular fleet also has large numbers of Mechanicus and Inquisition ships and operatives, as well as Imperial Guard. I was thinking the reason for this could be because they were looking for a STC design for more stable plasma technology, somewhere in the eastern fringe, as well as combating the tyranids. Therefore attracting the attention of the Inquisition, Mechanicus, and the Rogue Trader who is along for the ride either because he heard the rumor, wants the tech for himself, or just wants to explore the fringe, or all of the above. What do you guys think about this idea?

 

Also, does anyone know the names of any famous and powerful Rogue Trader families?

[Ferrata]

First of all, the Tyranids appeared after the last founding, so a chapter cannot be founded to fight the Tyranids.

 

Secondly, there is no-way in the Eye of Terror that the High Lords would entrust an entire Space Marine chapter to a Rogue Trader - even to accompany him. Maybe the chapter could send a company on the venture with him, but they would not be founded for this purpose.

[Grand Master Belial]

My thought would to flip the lead to an Explorator team with Mechanicus support. This could then be entrusted to a Mechanicus Friendly chapter like the Iron Hands to ensure it's safety (especially with the tyranid splinter fleets floating around the void). The Trader is there to try an establish trade between the worlds claimed by the Explorator team and the rest of the Imperium.

 

I believe Kal Jericho was a trader with Inquisitorial ties from mom.

[Donkeybomber]

Interesting idea, but perhaps figuring out what you really want may help you, and others determine the best background for the chapter. What I am hearing you say about the chapter is this:

1) They are fleet based, or spend a lot of time away from home in a fleet based manner.

2) They fight the Nid

3 They have deep ties to the mechanicus

4) They are really into exploration and conquest of new/fringe worlds

5) They have some involvement with a rogue trader

 

Decide which of these you want, and which you mentioned to try to add or assist in your background idea. If they don't all apply, or if one is vastly more important than the rest, then we can move forward with a better understanding of what you want. You don't need a rogue trader involved if you want them to explore new worlds. If the rogue trader is a must, then ask yourself if you want to write up a chapter, or a rogue trader and his band of explorers? And remember, these aspects of the chapter could represent portions of the chapter history. For a period, a rogue trader followed the chapter around and tried to make a profit on their conquests...

 

Keep at it, and solidify what your vision of the chapter is, then fill in fluff to support that.

 

Donkeybomber

[CasualT]

What I was really thinking is that I want a chapter that isn't controlled by the rogue trader, but maybe he was the one who brought their need to the High Lords attention. Then they were like, "No, we aren't giving you a marine chapter." So he pulled a favor, still no. Then the Mechanicus came to the High Lords and said "Hey, we're goin' with this rogue trader dude and there's gonna be some really dangerous :cuss out there." But the High Lords were still like no. (except maybe the Fab. General) THEN, an Inquisitor came to the High Lords and was like "Hey, we're goin' with this rogue trader dude and there's gonna be some really dangerous :cuss out there." Finally the High Lords were like "Oh just shut the :cuss up already, have these guys we just founded go with you."

 

How about they were founded in the new founding, but the fleet left about the same time, so they just tagged along? Or their homeworld is on the eastern fringe and was destroyed by the nids and so they packed up and left with this fleet? I want them to recruit from the other ships in the fleet and not to have a homeworld. Maybe the one of the factions they are ridin' with gave them something cool when they heard these guys were gonna' be their homies for a while.

 

Basically-A chapter would not be given to any of these factions, but with the combined influence of a VERY wealthy and established rogue trader family, a Mechanicus fleet searching for powerful archeotech usable by almost everyone in the Imperium, and an Inquisitor who wants to study the 'Nids, they were able to convince them to send a chapter to aid them. After all, the Imperium has a lot invested in this mission, why not keep it safe.

 

Also, could I maybe have this chapter founded specifically, not necessarily in secret, but at these faction's requests, individually? Like apart from the other foundings. Or is this completely out of the question?

 

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[Ferrata]

Also, could I maybe have this chapter founded specifically, not necessarily in secret, but at these faction's requests, individually? Like apart from the other foundings. Or is this completely out of the question?

That is generally considered a poor idea to go with. Personally, I find it adds very little to a chapter and starts to up the uberness (which is a bad thing). In a real world sense, it would be like raising a regiment in the army because of the whims of one politician - hardly likely. The question is; "What are you expecting this to add to the chapter? What you wanting to add to the chapter with this?", then we can suggest better ways around to the same destination.

 

My suggestion would be have a normal chapter, founded in the normal way, that has decided whole heartidly to join/start a crusade that has been joined by the other factions. Maybe their homeworld was destroyed and now it is a quest for revenge (hardly the most original of storylines, but it does work)

[CasualT]

@Ferrata - Okay thanks, I was just wondering if this was taboo or no? If it is, then I won't add it.

 

So I'm leaning more towards a chapter in the newest founding, who was assigned to go along with this exploration. Reasons being:

1) How about the Rogue Trader discovered the STC the mechanicus are now searching for, he tried to recover it, but some force (any ideas?) battered him pretty bad, hence there being a large threat to combat out there, because they don't know the Tyranids exist yet, so the marines tagged along with the Mechanicus and the Trader. Then they got attacked by a 'Nid Splinter fleet, which caught the eye of the =][= and some more imperial forces, so when they made port in Maccrage (Or somewhere close) to resupply, they were joined by another fleet and set off again.

2)Okay so I don't really have another reason, I kinda crammed 'em all in there. :sick:

 

Does anyone know the date of the last founding? Or the rank of AdMech that would be in charge here? I also need help with a name, I was thinking "Void" somethings?

 

I'm trying to prevent them from ever having a homeworld, and I want them to not specifically be created for this necessarily, but this be their mission from the beginning.

[Spartans]

Just an idea and a suggestion but how about the chapter was created for a whole other reason and were happily going about their business then your rogue trader and their paths cross and for some reason the form a symbiotic relationship rather than having them start together have them use each other and same you can then weave the Mech in there or they could start with the rogue trader.

 

I think that would be a much stronger reason.

 

You could have it that Chaos Marines or Nids destroyed Chapters homeworld ( like you want no homeworld ;) ) and rogue trader hears about this uses this info to get the chapter to join him as he fancies an adventure not recognising the danger and says he has info on where the CSM or Nids are so he is lying and stringing the SM along for fun and just leading them on a wild goose chase or he wants this STC but says the CSM or Nids have it that destroyed the homeworld so he now has a chapter helping him.

 

As for a name how about Void Dragons and the last founding I think was the 26th founding in 738M41

[CasualT]

I was thinking about that, but I would rather them have had no homeworld ever. Maybe they're fleet based and started this crusade, only to have all these other dudes join? The Void Dragons are an official chapter IIRC.

[Spartans]

Ok firstly are you sure Void Dragons has gone I can find anything on them but I may just be man looking so it could be right under my nose and still not see it :P

 

Secondly why not have them that they are a fleet based chapter and in one engagement with the nids almost their fleet was nearly wiped out while the entire chapter was on the planet fighting some ships got away having to leave the marines on the planet fighting the fleet retreated and bumped into a rogue trader who offered his assitance in a dunkirk kind of evacuation of the planet the fleet arrived in time to save most of the chapter the Chapter Master then makes arrangements with the Rogue Trader that he will protect him as a blood debt until his chapter is restored to full strength but due to accidents and the like it is funny how that will never happen plus the chapter needs the Rogue Traders ships to continue, just a quick idea that i have honestly not thought all the way through but i think is solid up to and including the evac just need to work out why they would now travel together.

[Captain Juan Juarez]

So I want to make a DiY chapter and I was thinking about why they might have been founded. I want to make a chapter that was special ordered by the High Lords to accompany a Rogue Trader's fleet. Like maybe they owed his family a HUGE favor or something. This particular fleet also has large numbers of Mechanicus and Inquisition ships and operatives, as well as Imperial Guard. I was thinking the reason for this could be because they were looking for a STC design for more stable plasma technology, somewhere in the eastern fringe, as well as combating the tyranids. Therefore attracting the attention of the Inquisition, Mechanicus, and the Rogue Trader who is along for the ride either because he heard the rumor, wants the tech for himself, or just wants to explore the fringe, or all of the above. What do you guys think about this idea?

 

Also, does anyone know the names of any famous and powerful Rogue Trader families?

 

Attracting the attention of every powerful organisation, barring maybe 3/4, in the Imperium, plus name dropping a Rogue Trader dynasty? Reeks of "I'm Awesome" which is certainly something to avoid.

[CasualT]

@Spartans - I really like that idea! I think I'll steal it with your permission. Let me search my database for mention of the Void Dragons.

 

@Captain Juan Juarez - I understand where your coming from, so Im gonna leave out the the =][= and Tone down the Mechanicus. Probably make the Rogue Trader play the major role in the chapter's fate. I took another few good looks at what I was trying to do and it just seemed like I was doing exactly what I hate to see in an DiY chapter. I decided to change and I'll post my revised ideas as soon as I get permission from Spartans.

 

Thanks for all the feedback ;)

[Spartans]

You have mine and the Emperor's blessing CasualT ;)

 

Glad I could help and look forward to reading about your chapter further.

[CasualT]

Thanks spartans and I will post the fluff up as soon as its done, I can PM you a link to the thread if you like :P

[Khairon]

just a point, the ships Rogue Traders use are canonically huge as cuss and have populations that are born and die on them (refrencing Soul Hunter book here), so that could be a source of recruits. Just offering.