Glimpse the Void Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Greetings Wolf Bros and those who wish they were, I am working on converting this frost axe out of a thunder hammer. What do you guys think about the conversion? The entire model is a WIP, hence the blue tacky putty. The shaft may be to long to look cool. What do you guys think? I have come to the fang for some constructive criticism before I continue working. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/7/8/118858_sm-Axe,%20Frost%20Axe,%20Space%20Wolves,%20Storm%20Shield,%20Wolf%20Guard.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/7/8/118859_sm-Axe,%20Frost%20Axe,%20Space%20Wolves,%20Storm%20Shield,%20Wolf%20Guard.jpg Thanks in advance! And if you feel like continue to be helpful, this is a link to the rest of the WIP army on Dakka. Please let me know what you think about the modeling/painting while I still have time to make adjustments. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300012.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/302243.page Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaegerAD Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Make it Longer as an halberd. I think its a bit long, just my oppinion :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Do you fight alot of carnifexes? That model would look epic in front of a carnifex or a trygon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 The more I look at it the more it seems like some thing is "off". I think that the box on the handle is breaking the line of the haft making it look odd. If you cut that out you'll clean up the line and shorten the length just a touch. IMHO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glimpse the Void Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 @JaegerAD: Would you go about trying to make it a halberd by adding more to the mid section or the back? @Schertenleib: I had a similar concern about that part in the middle, and was hoping it was just me. Good to know, and would pro bally be simple enough to fix. @Grey Mage: There are many monstrous creatures running around our FLGS. I have only recently begun to get back into 40k. Two games so far. I could see where that might look pretty rad. Just for grins, you gave me the idea to grab a few models and snap some quick and dirty photos. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/7/8/118940_sm-Axe,%20Flying,%20Space%20Wolves,%20Wolf%20Guard.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/7/8/118941_sm-Axe,%20Flying,%20Space%20Wolves,%20Wolf%20Guard.jpg Funny enough, When I was converting this hive tyrant, I specifically sculpted the neck to make sure that it's snarling face would be right up against a space marine's so they could look each other in the eye. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/7/8/118942_sm-Axe,%20Chaos,%20Flying,%20Space%20Wolves,%20Wolf%20Guard.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentonius Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I did the same conversion but I changed it because it was in my eyes to long. I maked the hammer bar schorter to just behind that thicker area. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 IMO it needs to be double-bladed, because now the focus is on the handle not on the blade. A double-bladed axe would be epic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousFerret Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Obvious Freudian reference is obvious. But in all seriousness, it seems a bit too unwieldy, especially considering he's wielding it one-handed. Without wanting to invite posters to degenerate this thread into a nerdy discussion of Space Marine upper body and wrist strength, it does seem to me that if you're wielding a end-weighted ten foot pole, you'll want to use two hands to swing it, .... or simply use it in the manner of a lance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I have a Model almost exactly the same.... for me though with this model, I like the Axe, the reason for me that it looks a little odd is that it looks like a two handed Axe being held in one hand. If the second hand was raised in vicroty or some other pose it wouldnt look so off... because it would give the feel of a two hander and that the second hand will go back to it... Could you have a Storm Shield slung on his side / back.... That way you could for WYSIWYG reasons still play him as a Storm shield carrier for invun purposes. then have a plain hand raised in the air like he is screaming a battle challenge or a victory cry... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan230 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 See my Sig for your answer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Obvious Freudian reference is obvious. But in all seriousness, it seems a bit too unwieldy, especially considering he's wielding it one-handed. Without wanting to invite posters to degenerate this thread into a nerdy discussion of Space Marine upper body and wrist strength, it does seem to me that if you're wielding a end-weighted ten foot pole, you'll want to use two hands to swing it, .... or simply use it in the manner of a lance. *shrugs* Having done SCA fighting and Martial arts as hobbies for a while I can tell you this much- you wont get the same power as you would two handed, but a glave, long axe, or staff are all capable of being wielded one handed if you have the strength and the practice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Excellent! for fighting in 4 ranks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Two handed, it can look right. One handed, it looks like a lantern on a pole or a fishing rod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Well I would answer this question....but Logan has allready quoted my answer to the last question like this. In all honesty I think you might build up the blade more to make it look more like a Poleaxe...but other then that,the only problem I see is the bit around the box in the middle could be cleaned up a tad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Two handed, it can look right.One handed, it looks like a lantern on a pole or a fishing rod. It will look right single-handed if rested on shoulder or stuck in the ground. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Two handed, it can look right.One handed, it looks like a lantern on a pole or a fishing rod. It will look right single-handed if rested on shoulder or stuck in the ground. Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2457998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaleOpener Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I'm gonna say its the "node" ( just above the tubing ), which is making the weapon a little 'off'. Cut it out, and you should have a smoother looking weapon. Other than that, I really like the pose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2458091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Obvious Freudian reference is obvious. But in all seriousness, it seems a bit too unwieldy, especially considering he's wielding it one-handed. Without wanting to invite posters to degenerate this thread into a nerdy discussion of Space Marine upper body and wrist strength, it does seem to me that if you're wielding a end-weighted ten foot pole, you'll want to use two hands to swing it, .... or simply use it in the manner of a lance. *shrugs* Having done SCA fighting and Martial arts as hobbies for a while I can tell you this much- you wont get the same power as you would two handed, but a glave, long axe, or staff are all capable of being wielded one handed if you have the strength and the practice. And if you are doing SCA fighting for instance and your arm gets hit,you will learn quickly to use it one handed lol. Spent the better part of a battle at an Antir-West War using a Poleaxe with only one arm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2458324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotspur Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I think it's a little bit too long for the size of the blade. If you could find the blade from, say, a greater demon of khorne's axe, that would be truly epic... b/c I know you have extras of those lying around waiting to be hacked apart. :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2458482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I concur with most of my brethren. Don't make the haft longer, make the axe bigger! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2458664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxx Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I don't care what anyone says, it looks badass! Maybe add a spike to the back end for more awesomeness (and traitor-armor penetration)! Super SM strength and augmented armor means a traditionally 2-handed weapon is simply a SM weapon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2458740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Ravenfeeder Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I think its all down to personal taste. Personally i'd either take 4 -5 mm off or keep the length and use a smaller axe head. Take a look at your classic dane-axe, length is usually from ground to chin and head size is about a foot or smaller. I like a touch of realism in my sculpts but that said there's something aesthetically pleasing seeing a genetically altered hulk swinging an unwieldily deathstick your way. My advice is take a sit back look at the guy and if your thinking hell-yeah then go for it, if your still unsure play with the length or size, even the guys stance could make a big difference. From the look of your guy he looks like he's going for an upward stroke so maybe twisting the head a little forward may tighten it up (or for that matter twist away as if he's recovering a overhead swing). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2458953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyre Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 I like it, I envision him holding his shield out in front to hold a MC at bay while winding up that big axe and smashing down on its head. The only thing i would do is possibly make it double bladed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2465386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 I think that the shaft should reach up to his chest and no longer when resting on the ground. This is a good guage when wanting to make a weapon big but not disproportioned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2465609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberhawk Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 I like the idea of a pole-arm so I like it. It might be unwieldy but so is a thunderhammer or a power fist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205991-is-this-axe-conversion-to-long/#findComment-2465799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.