Wolfeslad Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 This is my first topic (yes i've been through searchy). I normally fotslog but i'm thinking of introducing some cheap transports mainly for my battle hungry bloodclaws :huh: Out of the choices above which would my Wolf Brothers choose ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 If your thinking Blood Claws, Razorbacks are way too small to hold them. While they love fighting, they need a good amount of numbers to make use of it. I would typically only use Razorbacks for small Grey Wolf groups and Longfangs, though more importently so as a highly mobile twin linked lazcannon. As most infantry formations tend to be bigger, they would be gun first, transport second. Blood claws are generally not quite skillful enough to be useful in small numbers. Rhinos are a decent transport for Grey Hunters and Blood Claws I think. 10 people can fit in one, so if it makes it you can roll out a pretty large group of guns. Since the blood claws are more plentiful, them smashing into a unit is more felt. Having multiple Rhinos with about 200 points between each streaming towards them is normally pretty terrifying prospect, be they hunters or claws. Not terribly durable, but it's extremely hard to stop a entire mechinised unit speeding towards them. That being said, a Land Raider Crusaider tends to be the only transport big enough to fit 15 of them in, plus a HQ to lead them. Pretty much the raw multitude of attacks would really damage most things it smashed into them. Though 250 points is expensive, pretty much a Rhino with a Grey Hunter squad + Wolf Guard leader. Or it's weight in blood claws. Plus if you have that many, a Priest adds another 100 onto that which makes it a pretty expensive prospect. That being said, it's all theory my end that I've been reading here and there, I may lack the hands on experience of other members here. Personally, I would probably opt for the Rhinos to start with and use more Hunters then Claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2460663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKAwolf Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 buy the razorbacks any ways and build them as rhinos then you have the turrets when you need the extra punch or for Long Fangs squads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2460666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 indeed, buy razorback kits and then use then for both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2460675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfeslad Posted July 12, 2010 Author Share Posted July 12, 2010 thanks guys, i was thinking along the same lines. must trust my insticts, what a pup lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2460729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sazzer Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 What I'm planning is: - Blood Claws get Drop Pods (Delivering them closer to the enemy earlier on) - Grey Hunters get Rhinos (They've earned enough to not be thrown at the ground in big hunks of metal) - Long Fangs get a Razorback, but more as an extra S9 weapon than as a transport... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2461144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 What I'm planning is: - Blood Claws get Drop Pods (Delivering them closer to the enemy earlier on) A big "no no" on this. Don't do this, just don't B). They will get shot to pieces and most probably will have no range on the turn they drop with their pathetic 6" bolt pistols and BS 3. But the other two options for hunters and fangs are sound for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2461325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan230 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 12 inch pistols, but the sentiment is true. Bloodclaws do NOT get to ride in pods. Works in fluff, not in game. sadly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2462100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Buy Razorbacks, take rhinos for bloodclaws. Seriously, they need the numbers- 6 guys isnt going to cut it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2462105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 12 inch pistols, but the sentiment is true. Bloodclaws do NOT get to ride in pods. Works in fluff, not in game. sadly. True :D It's been very very hot here for some days :D I wish I'd been somewhere on Fenris instead of Europe these days... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2462138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfeslad Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 Buy Razorbacks, take rhinos for bloodclaws. Seriously, they need the numbers- 6 guys isnt going to cut it. Knew i could count on you Gray Mage ;) Thanks everyone. i was thinking of Podding as in the Ragnar Fluff but agree the risks outweigh the coolness B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2462650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphius Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Grey Hunters get Razorbacks Blood Claws get Crusaders Long Fangs Razorbacks Wolf Guard get Pods or Razorbacks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2462677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 It's not a terrible idea to spend your points on a pair of land raiders, and then the rest on your troops... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2462707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Ease of use: Rhino. Big gun option: Razorback. Big Hammer coming to knock on your door: LRC. BC's in a LRC with a WP leading them and the right PE choice is worth it, if you can get it. Otherwise, it's best to favor Rhinos and go 12" per turn until you arrive at the enemy lines, and pile out if you can. That way if your transport gets surrounded and wrecked, you won't lose them all. Just put them out on the other side, away from the enemy, and get ready for some fun. The next turn, just move the Rhino out of the way, and go to it. Otherwise, a LRC is still the better option. Front assault hatch and all that... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206264-rhino-vs-razorback/#findComment-2462720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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